Political Movies that get a big 'MEH' by chrisisall

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Political Movies that get a big 'MEH'

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Friday, March 2, 2007 4:51 AM

CHRISISALL

Movies that were supposed to be good, but just made you ask, "So what?"

Red Dawn was like that for me. A big "Huh?"

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Friday, March 2, 2007 5:24 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Hey Chris, Make up'a you damn mind!!!
"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, March 2, 2007 5:26 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Don't know about neo-cons, but "The American President" got a "Meh" out of me.

Actually, I found that movie to be....yeah, pretty 'meh'.

Mehisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 5:47 AM

KANEMAN

Is this only for neocons or what?

Just about any film from Stone or Moore.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 6:06 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Hey Chris, Make up'a you damn mind!!!

Okay, It's made up now.
Rambo: First Blood Part 2- what a mess. Like there would actually be POW's held for no reason for THAT long...what a fantasy. At least Red Dawn was put out by a good writer/director, Rambo was a slap in the face to the memory of the actually very good First Blood.

The Trying to redeem himself Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 6:51 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Hey Chris, Make up'a you damn mind!!!
Okay, It's made up now.
The Trying to redeem himself Chrisisall

The worst ever has got to be "Starship Troopers". So much possibility of an interesting, thought-provoking, intelligent movie, and it turned out a cheesy comic book (and that's an insult to comic books everywhere). It didn't make me go "Meh", it made me

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:08 AM

HERO

Good movies that sucked:

1. The Marine
2. The Skorpion King
3. Cornholers 12 (The one with PirateNews.)
4. Starship Troopers
5. Star Trek V
6. Star Trek Insurrection
7. Star Trek Nemesis
8. Harry Potter and the Insert Movie Title Here
9. Little Miss Sunshine (because she didn't win the fracking contest...)

...and so on.

edited to add: 10. BATTLEFIELD EARTH
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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:10 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

The worst ever has got to be "Starship Troopers". It didn't make me go "Meh", it made me

It's like the FX took over the script (more like, threw it out, actually).
It started out interesting....

Tant pis Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:14 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Good movies that sucked:

6. Star Trek Insurrection

Once again Hero, you prove your lack of good taste.

I...guess they were 'political' movies....if ya look at 'em that way....

Possibly political Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:14 AM

RIGHTEOUS9

wow,

I love Starship Troopers. The whole thing was so satyrical...

kind of like the war on terror.

when they pulled the big bug out at the end and declared that it was afraid....absolutely classic

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:19 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Righteous9:

when they pulled the big bug out at the end and declared that it was afraid....absolutely classic

Well...yeah, the whole commentary on war was okay...I guess it was trying to dip into the well of Robocop and Total Recall and shock us. The effect was sort of cartoon-y to me. Plus the ending that made it seem like part two was coming out later.

It had it's moments Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:26 AM

RIGHTEOUS9

As to political movies...

Syriana and traffic kind of both got a meh from me...neither was bad and they were both watchable...they really didn't make me look at anything differently. Maybe I need to see them again

Thank you For smoking was another one that really didn't do much for me throughout the whole movie, but the ending is interesting...a kind of possitive twist on the ugly side of American values...so maybe I should reserve judgement here too.

24, as far as television goes....I never really got further than the fourth or fifth episode. It was kind of like watching the fox news channel. Could your gas station attendant be a terrorist ready to blow up your city? Oh, and do you know where your daughter is?

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:28 AM

RIGHTEOUS9

yeah...cartoony, charicaturish, I kind of thought that was the point though

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:35 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:

yeah...cartoony, charicaturish, I kind of thought that was the point though

Okay, the worst part was that I didn't feel any of the characters were real. I need at least one anchor in a movie, like HAL in 2001, or the movie loses me.

Hello, Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:50 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE

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Hero wrote:
edited to add: 10. BATTLEFIELD EARTH

*Shakes fist.* Damn it. Ya beat me to it.

*Thinks.*

Aeon Flux. It had some nice sci-fi elements in it, but the government/rebel storyline made me sleepy. I admire Charlize Theron as an actress, though this film took the biscuit.

What about THX 1138? Is it safe to mention that?

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:52 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE

Gah.. Double post.. Move along.. Nothing to see here.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 7:52 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by CosmicFugitive:

What about THX 1138? Is it safe to mention that?

High concept; meh ending.

LUH Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 8:41 AM

SABRI3L

Little Miss Sunshine was better because she didn't win the contest.

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Hell on wheels

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Friday, March 2, 2007 8:54 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:

when they pulled the big bug out at the end and declared that it was afraid....absolutely classic
Well...yeah, the whole commentary on war was okay...I guess it was trying to dip into the well of Robocop and Total Recall and shock us. The effect was sort of cartoon-y to me. Plus the ending that made it seem like part two was coming out later.

It had it's moments Chrisisall

Sorry, but I thought you knew:

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/starshiptroopers2heroofthefedera
tion/index.html

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:15 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Geezer:

Sorry, but I thought you knew:

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/starshiptroopers2heroofthefedera
tion/index.html

Naw, that wasn't a REAL sequel, just kind of a side story in the same 'verse.

It too, had it's moments, but not that many. Still, impressive considering how much money they didn't have to work with!

Critic Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:20 AM

SHINYED

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:20 AM

JOSSISAGOD

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:

when they pulled the big bug out at the end and declared that it was afraid....absolutely classic
Well...yeah, the whole commentary on war was okay...I guess it was trying to dip into the well of Robocop and Total Recall and shock us. The effect was sort of cartoon-y to me. Plus the ending that made it seem like part two was coming out later.

It had it's moments Chrisisall

Sorry, but I thought you knew:

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/starshiptroopers2heroofthefedera
tion/index.html

"Keep the Shiny side up"

I don't think Chris is counting that part, 'cause if there's one movie that was MORE terrible than the oringinal it'd be Starship Troopers 2!

I enjoyed the original Starship Troopers as a comicbook-y cheese filled movie, and didn't read too much into it.

PS. Spielberg ROCKS!

Fe'nos Tol
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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:23 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
For me the biggest "meh" in recent years was Star Wars Episodes 1,2,3.

Agreed.

Quote:

Other big "mehs" include :

Anything with George Clooney

Solaris was good.

Hey! Off topic!
We're supposed to be onto political movies here, how is Wedding Crashers political???

Politically bent Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:24 AM

SHINYED

Chris...sorry 'bout that. Sometimes I forget to actually read the topic post.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:26 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by jossisagod:

I enjoyed the original Starship Troopers as a comicbook-y cheese filled movie, and didn't read too much into it.

All this talk of it made me go to the store. I just now bought Starship Troopers fo a measly $5.50; I like it at least that much.

Bug Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:38 AM

SCHOONER

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Hey! Off topic!
We're supposed to be onto political movies here, how is Wedding Crashers political???

Politically bent Chrisisall

It's a political allegory for American foreign policy. Think about it; two guys who appear different but are actually really alike, who crash into other people's parties without being invited, for their own benefit.

ok, I'll shut up now

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:43 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Chris...sorry 'bout that. Sometimes I forget to actually read the topic post.

No worries, just funnin'.

I actually like the political part of Star War 1, 2, & 3, it just the flicks themselves that suck.

Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

POLITICAL moves that made me go "meh"?

Fahrenheit 911- Sloppy and trivial.

An Inconvenient Truth- For beginners.

V for Vendetta- I really hate "revolution by superhero" stories

The Island- Uh puhleez!!

OTOH, political movies that shook me up...

Hearts and Minds- actual footage from the Vietnam war that never shown on TV

1984- much better than "V"

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 9:58 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Um... the only disappointment in this arena I can think of is Man of the Year. It's not necessarily that I didn't like the message, but that I felt the advertisers had to manipulate people into believing that it was a funny Robin Williams and ensemble flick that would remind me of The Daily Show. That left a bad taste in my mouth. (Plus, that one woman was... eh.)

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Friday, March 2, 2007 10:11 AM

SHINYED

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
POLITICAL moves that made me go "meh"?

Fahrenheit 911- Sloppy and trivial.

An Inconvenient Truth- For beginners.

V for Vendetta- I really hate "revolution by superhero" stories

The Island- Uh puhleez!!

OTOH, political movies that shook me up...

Hearts and Minds- actual footage from the Vietnam war that never shown on TV

1984- much better than "V"

I'm in 100% agreement with your post.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 10:22 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

V for Vendetta- I really hate "revolution by superhero" stories

The Island- Uh puhleez!!

But they had cool action!
No, you're right, especially The Island...Michael Bay trying to do the message thing- hi-larious. Transformers is more his style, I think.

Another one: Equilibrium. It had all the elements, but again, an action film posing as relevent SF.

Give me Logan's Run.

Sandman Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 11:37 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by yinyang:
Um... the only disappointment in this arena I can think of is Man of the Year. It's not necessarily that I didn't like the message, but that I felt the advertisers had to manipulate people into believing that it was a funny Robin Williams and ensemble flick that would remind me of The Daily Show. That left a bad taste in my mouth. (Plus, that one woman was... eh.)

It wasn't funny. It was a drama with a character who was a comic. Kinda like Good Morning Vietnam, funny, but serious.

I liked it, but the whole drugging the only female main character was disturbing.

I liked the nobody fixed the election, it was just a mistake storyline. That made the corporate coverup more believable and less sinister.

H

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Friday, March 2, 2007 1:24 PM

CAUSAL

Well, in the grand tradition of the thread, here goes with ignoring the thread title and forging ahead with my own category:

Movies that I know are bad, but love anyway

1. Soldier
2. Waterworld
3. Underworld
4. Sweet Home Alabama

5. The Day After Tomorrow (see? I'm not totally off topic!)
6. The Postman
7. Legally Blonde
8. Twister
9. *gulp* Stargate *ducks*
10. Star Wars Episode I (but only in my version, where I fast-forward through all Jar Jar and Anakin)

And what a bleeding shame about Starship Troopers. The book is phenomenal. Really sharp social and political commentary. And if you recommend it to anyone they turn up their nose because the movie sucked ass.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 1:42 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:

1. Soldier

5. The Day After Tomorrow (see? I'm not totally off topic!)

9. *gulp* Stargate *ducks*

I like these three, especially Stargate (extended cut, of course).

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And what a bleeding shame about Starship Troopers. ...the movie sucked ass.

I didn't think the movie was terrible on it's own...just compared to the novel.

BTW, I notified the Topic Police about the transgressions here.

Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 1:44 PM

CAUSAL

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
BTW, I notified the Topic Police about the transgressions here.

Hail Mary, full of grace, *mumblemumblemumble*

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Friday, March 2, 2007 2:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Red Dawn was like that for me. A big "Huh?"

C'mon Chris... WOLVERINES!!!!

How can ya not feel the passion!! The patriotism?
Patrick Swazye ? Jennifer Grey ? Charlie Sheen ? Leah Thompson ?? POWERS BOOTHE ??

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 2:33 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Movies that were supposed to be good, but just made you ask, "So what?"

Red Dawn was like that for me. A big "Huh?"

Come on! C. Thomas Howell, Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen? The only movie more of a manbabefest is the Outsiders!

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Friday, March 2, 2007 2:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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9. Little Miss Sunshine (because she didn't win the fracking contest...)

I thought that was the whole damn point, that she was too good to be judged by that group of tight assed,self absorbed, fake, plastic alliance scum.

I'm sure that was the point, wasn't it ?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, March 2, 2007 3:05 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

C'mon Chris... WOLVERINES!!!!

How can ya not feel the passion!! The patriotism?
Patrick Swazye ? Jennifer Grey ? Charlie Sheen ? Leah Thompson ?? POWERS BOOTHE ??

As a pure fantasy, I guess it was compeling and stuff...the actors were top notch.
Anything with Powers Boothe is worth looking at (Rapid Fire! Yeah, baby!).

Emerald Forest Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 3:08 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
The only movie more of a manbabefest is the Outsiders!

Charlie's Angels is more my speed.

Only God Will Judge Me Chrisisall

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Friday, March 2, 2007 3:09 PM

CHRISISALL

CHRISISALL! You're OFF TOPIC!!!!

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Friday, March 2, 2007 3:26 PM

CAUSAL

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I thought that was the whole damn point, that she was too good to be judged by that group of tight assed,self absorbed, fake, plastic alliance scum.

I thought the point was that too much Nietszche will make you insane.

No, wait, that's the philosopher in me again.

But as a friend said, "You gotta be careful when you quote Nietszche, because if you quote the wrong part you look like f

ing Nazi."

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Friday, March 2, 2007 5:14 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

My opinions...

Star Trek Insurrection - It did indeed suck. Not as much as Nemesis or Generations, though.

Red Dawn - I liked it.

Starship Troopers - Abominable butchering of the novel. What happened to the mobile infantry? Where are my cool armor suits? Why, Lord, why?!

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, March 2, 2007 6:26 PM

CAUSAL

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Starship Troopers - Abominable butchering of the novel. What happened to the mobile infantry? Where are my cool armor suits? Why, Lord, why?!

Yup. Exactly.

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Friday, March 2, 2007 11:15 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

The worst ever has got to be "Starship Troopers". It didn't make me go "Meh", it made me

It's like the FX took over the script (more like, threw it out, actually).
It started out interesting....

Tant pis Chrisisall

They departed quite badly from a very good novel

" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack

Run to the hills run for your lives "

http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ironmaiden/liveafterdeath.html#12

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Saturday, March 3, 2007 6:09 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
My opinions...

Star Trek Insurrection - It did indeed suck.

Other than seeming like a glorified episode of the series as opposed to a full-blown movie (not a bad thing for me), what made it suck?
The only Trek movie I like better is Star Trek TMP (Director's Cut).

Curious Chrisisall

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Saturday, March 3, 2007 6:15 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

They departed quite badly from a very good novel

Just watched it last night...
apart from the tremendous visuals, there was a rather high 'meh' factor.
Okay, war bad, I get that. I just needed a little more characterization. By the end of the movie, I felt (again) like I just sat through a sermon. A hi-tek sermon.

Oh well Chrisisall

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Saturday, March 3, 2007 6:17 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
My opinions...

Star Trek Insurrection - It did indeed suck.
Other than seeming like a glorified episode of the series as opposed to a full-blown movie (not a bad thing for me), what made it suck?
The only Trek movie I like better is Star Trek TMP (Director's Cut).

Curious Chrisisall

I think the only good one of the bunch was Wrath of Khan

" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack

Run to the hills run for your lives "

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Saturday, March 3, 2007 6:44 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

I think the only good one of the bunch was Wrath of Khan

It was lively, yes.
But Khan's eighties high-hair? I don't recall seeing hair spray on the Botany Bay.
And what's with having a hard time finding a lifeless planet???? *brain circuits over-loading* MOST PLANETS ARE!!!!!!! I smell cheap and scientifically stupid plot device there.
And sensors and computers could not be so innacurate as to mistake Ceti-Alpha 5 for 6, even with the orbit change.
Gino, search your feelings, you know this to be true!

TMP was gold Chrisisall

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Saturday, March 3, 2007 6:53 AM

CAUSAL

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Okay, war bad, I get that. I just needed a little more characterization. By the end of the movie, I felt (again) like I just sat through a sermon. A hi-tek sermon.

The thing that killed me was that the book had some pretty scathing things to say about out modern political and military systems--and yet none of those messages came through in the film. The "message" of the film (which did, indeed, seem to be "war bad") is actually discussed and dismissed in the book. In one scene (occurring in a high school classroom) a student says basically that war is bad, because violence never solved anything. The reply was that violence actually has solved many things (to wit: the Holocaust). And then the instructor gives my absolute favorite line: “War is not violence and killing, pure and simple; war is controlled violence, for a purpose. The purpose of war is to support your government’s decisions by force.”

So yeah, what a crap movie.

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