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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
(you may not personally be a Democrat but you are spinning for them)

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First Pelosi accomplished nothing with her visit, now she is getting the ball rolling. So which is it? Is she 'normalizing relations with Syria (diplomatic trip) or is she simply finding facts? And what facts is she finding? Besides Israel does not trust Syria and vice versa.

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I still believe Pelosi accomplished nothing, only because Arab men are as sexist as is possible. I was guessing of her possible intentions when I wrote of getting the ball rolling.

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That is the basis of this entire thread.

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I thought it was titled Pelosi should be prosecuted? Which includes a lot of things. Nothing I wrote was out of the scope of this thread. And my last paragraph about all polticians breaking the law means that not just Dem's are doing it, Republicans too.

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Just who is getting all the good publicity from this? Besides Syria that is.

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Pelosi is getting good pub within her party and the administration. That's an added benefit. Wake up! She is a politician just like Bush.

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This thread is about the legality of Pelosi's actions. But all politicians who break the law should be dragged to court or else why have a legal system in the first place?

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Presecuting them is next to impossible, both sides have great lawyers!



"The world is still turning and you're on it....count yourself lucky" My Dad, 2007.

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Originally posted by Hero:
What? Its been all over the news for a week.

...and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007
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Pratfall in Damascus
Nancy Pelosi's foolish shuttle diplomacy
Thursday, April 5, 2007; Page A16

HOUSE SPEAKER Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad. After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.

Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda.

Ms. Pelosi was criticized by President Bush for visiting Damascus at a time when the administration -- rightly or wrongly -- has frozen high-level contacts with Syria. Mr. Bush said that thanks to the speaker's freelancing Mr. Assad was getting mixed messages from the United States. Ms. Pelosi responded by pointing out that Republican congressmen had visited Syria without drawing presidential censure. That's true enough -- but those other congressmen didn't try to introduce a new U.S. diplomatic initiative in the Middle East. "We came in friendship, hope, and determined that the road to Damascus is a road to peace," Ms. Pelosi grandly declared.

Never mind that that statement is ludicrous: As any diplomat with knowledge of the region could have told Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Assad is a corrupt thug whose overriding priority at the moment is not peace with Israel but heading off U.N. charges that he orchestrated the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq al-Hariri. The really striking development here is the attempt by a Democratic congressional leader to substitute her own foreign policy for that of a sitting Republican president. Two weeks ago Ms. Pelosi rammed legislation through the House of Representatives that would strip Mr. Bush of his authority as commander in chief to manage troop movements in Iraq. Now she is attempting to introduce a new Middle East policy that directly conflicts with that of the president. We have found much to criticize in Mr. Bush's military strategy and regional diplomacy. But Ms. Pelosi's attempt to establish a shadow presidency is not only counterproductive, it is foolish.

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Sorta,
"Ye'll take the high road,
and I'll take the low road,
and I'll be in the White House
afore ye," huh?
My apologies to Bobbie Burns.

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You sure that was Burns? I thought it was more of a folk song, author unknown

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Originally posted by Geezer:
No one has a problem with the Washington Post criticism of Pelosi?

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Originally posted by Geezer:
No one has a problem with the Washington Post criticism of Pelosi?

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Do you mean with what they said or the fact they said anything?

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I mean the fact that one of the leading liberal papers in the US found it necessary to criticise her trip so forcefully. This is pretty harsh talk about a Democrat from a paper which usually praises anything they do. It seems that the Post at least recognises that foreign policy is the responsibility of the Executive Branch.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Originally posted by rue:
The Washington Post one of the "leading liberal papers in the US" ????

Now I've heard it all. Jeez.

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Originally posted by rue:

The Washington Post is US right of center.

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Originally posted by rue:
"I mean the fact that one of the leading liberal papers"

Hey, you made the claim, you back it up.

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Originally posted by rue:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I keep saying the democrats should investigate the hell out of this and any right wing-nut complaint. But rather than respond to that you'll just backtrack to a different version.

So now I'm guessing you have a problem with this being investigated. You must really love your empty. bankrupt. dishonest. claims.

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