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Originally posted by SignyM:
No, my point was that you have a very inconsistent view of what's "right" and what's "wrong", and which way it wobbles depends on whether or not you agree with a person's underlying "motivations". And yes, to the best of my recollection you HAVE defended invasions and other "interventions" which have clearly killed many innocent people which were not at all defensive. Time permits, I will go look them up and either find out I was wrong - in which case I owe you a huge apology for busting your chops over a mistaken perception- or I find out that I'm right.

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The quote that you took out of context was a part of post that I made comparing the US invasions with Soviet invasions to refute your claim that the US was worse then the Soviet Union

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The Iraqi leader made himself even more of a marked man when, in that same year, he began to help create the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC)... and in 1962 he created a national oil company to exploit the nation’s oil. In February 1963, Kassem told the French daily, Le Monde, that he had received a note from Washington -- "in terms scarcely veiled, calling upon me to change my attitude, under threat of sanctions against Iraq... All our trouble with the imperialists [the US and the UK] began the day we claimed our legitimate rights to Kuwait." A few days after Kassem’s remarks were published, he was overthrown in a coup and summarily executed; thousands of communists were killed. The State Department soon informed the press that it was pleased that the new regime would respect international agreements and was not interested in nationalizing the giant Iraq Petroleum Co., of which the US was a major owner. The new government, at least for the time being, also cooled its claim to Kuwait.

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I'm not intentionally causing his murder nor am I condoning it. I'm sending money to support my investment. The US does this a lot. We send money to many different places to support our investments. How these people choose to deal with their problem is up to them. So my point is that it is disingenuous to claim that the US/Britain assassinated someone, when actually all they did was support their interests in this part of the world.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I know we also went round and round on.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=5209

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So thanks for proving that I've been very consistent and for also demonstrating that you don't have friggin' clue as to what other people are saying. No matter than you must have spent about five hours hunting up that quote so you could take it out of context.

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None of which is related to the Falwell debate. This is not discussion; it's just Gestapo tactics. You're confusing the issue because you’re too small-minded to deal with the debate honestly.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
And since I've already agreed that we shouldn't be celebrating Falwell's death, what more do you want me to say on the topic? This is one of those times when we agree. I just want the same consideration extended without prejudice to hate-mongering blowhards of all faiths. Including me.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
And since I've already agreed that we shouldn't be celebrating Falwell's death, what more do you want me to say on the topic?

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Voicing pleasure at the death of another human being whose only crime is not agreeing with you or sharing your religious views comes across as pretty assholish to me. I’m sure that somewhere he has family that miss him. And whether I agreed with his political views or particular brand of Islam there were many that did and felt that his ministries were an important part of their lives.

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No what you want is to paint people who disagree with you as evil

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Could you say this about the Ayatollah Khomeini, for example? All HE did was "talk". Never killed anyone.

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The Secret Life of Jerry Farwell: Televangelist linked to 9/11 terror flight school run by CIA

At the same time the Rev. Jerry Falwell was accusing pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, the ACLU and People For the American Way of sharing responsibility for the 9/11 attack the televangelist owed over one million dollars in unpaid loans to the owner of the terror flight school in Florida which trained Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, the MadCowMorningNews has learned...

"Falwell’s accountant told me, ‘if I can pay you in chunks off the books so Jerry doesn’t see it, I can get it handled,’ Burchill said.

“So we worked out a payment schedule. After that checks drawn on Liberty University came in for a few months, until Falwell figured out what was going on and put a stop to it.”

That the avuncular Southern Baptist minister was “stripping out” his church’s bank account at the end of the month is no doubt news to his supporters. Picture him trying to peddle forgiveness for that down the aisles at Liberty Baptist...

One of the flight trainers who trained Atta in Venice moonlighted flying missionary flights for televangelist Pat Robertson’s Operation Blessing.

During the 1980s Falwell— at the same time Robertson was involved a bizarre sideline for a preacher, diamond mining in West Africa— had been an outspoken supporter of apartheid in South Africa...

www.madcowprod.com/05182007.html

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Mrs. Betty Bowers' Eulogy for Rev. Jerry Falwell: All's Well That End's Falwell
www.bettybowers.com/nl_may2007.html

Landover Baptist Sermon: In Surprise Move, God Snuffs Out Jerry Falwell
www.landoverbaptist.org/news0507/falwell.html

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Two sort of related things. What's everyone's take on the tax-exempt status of religious organizations?

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