All is lost; my America is swirling.... by chrisisall

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All is lost; my America is swirling....

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Friday, October 19, 2007 01:39
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Monday, October 15, 2007 11:10 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html

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Dr. Miller's data reveal some yawning gaps in basic knowledge. American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century.

isall

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Monday, October 15, 2007 12:23 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

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Monday, October 15, 2007 12:28 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

I’m sure there is some reason why they excluded from this article Millers other findings, which are that while the US’s scientific literacy is abysmally low it is also among the highest in the world, beating out the Europeans and the Japanese, and it has increased over the last 20 years. In fact, the US has gone from being among the least scientifically literate to being one of the most in just 20 years. Much of Miller's research is very encouraging.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Monday, October 15, 2007 12:31 PM

KANEMAN

Finn Mac has a point chrissisall...justsay'nisall

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Monday, October 15, 2007 2:13 PM

FREDGIBLET

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m sure there is some reason why they excluded from this article Millers other findings, which are that while the US’s scientific literacy is abysmally low it is also among the highest in the world, beating out the Europeans and the Japanese, and it has increased over the last 20 years. In fact, the US has gone from being among the least scientifically literate to being one of the most in just 20 years. Much of Miller's research is very encouraging.

It's kind of like being the least creepy pedophile, sure you're aren't as bad as everyone else, but you're still pretty damn bad.

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Monday, October 15, 2007 2:54 PM

CHRISISALL

You guys are scaring me- all of ya

You can see molecules with a magnifyin' glass Chrisisall

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Monday, October 15, 2007 4:08 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by fredgiblet:
It's kind of like being the least creepy pedophile, sure you're aren't as bad as everyone else, but you're still pretty damn bad.

The reason the New York Times spins this as bad is because they have an agenda. The fact is that if your seventh grader was reading at a first grade level last year, but this year is reading at a fourth grade level, you don’t write him off as hopeless – he’s improved, a lot. The US not only has a higher scientific literacy then the Europeans or the Japanese, according to this study, but the US also improved the most. In twenty years – less than a generation – the US has tripled its scientific literacy.

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Monday, October 15, 2007 4:19 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
In twenty years – less than a generation – the US has tripled its scientific literacy.

Thanks to CSI.

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Monday, October 15, 2007 5:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

We're watching the product of the Department of Education at its finest. Abolish this wasteful cabinet position and focus more on the children, and not on paying the administrators salaries. There's far too much pork in the school systems, where as the money sent doesn't reach to thems who need it most.

Bout time for a school voucher program, if ya ask me.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:19 AM

CAUSAL

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
In twenty years – less than a generation – the US has tripled its scientific literacy.

Thanks to CSI.

Hooray for CSI!

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:05 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Causal:

Hooray for CSI!

Does that stand for consumer science institute or something?

Lost Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:12 PM

LEADB

On the remote chance you are serious in asking... Crime Scene Investigator. As in TV show by name of CSI.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 PM

SERGEANTX

I don't think these findings are really an accurate indication of the intelligence and sophistication of the average American. For that, I think it'd be more useful to look at how they deal with important decisions that require mature judgment and deliberation. Take the last two presidential elections for example...

SergeantX

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:57 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

When it comes to CSI ... the people I work with have fun watching it to count the inaccuracies.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:39 PM

FREDGIBLET

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Originally posted by rue:
When it comes to CSI ... the people I work with have fun watching it to count the inaccuracies.

Accurate shows are no fun to watch.

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Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:35 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Does that stand for consumer science institute or something?

I don’t watch CSI so I had to think about it too.

I hope that as scientific literary increases, the History Channel and the Discovery Channel will get rid of these damned ghost-stories, alien-stories, evil government conspiracy crap and prophesy crap and start broadcasting more real history and science shows.

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Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:49 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

I hope that as scientific literary increases, the History Channel and the Discovery Channel will get rid of these damned ghost-stories, alien-stories, evil government conspiracy crap and prophesy crap and start broadcasting more real history and science shows.

There IS a degree of sell-out here....