The commonality of false outrage. by Fremdfirma

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The commonality of false outrage.

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UPDATED: Friday, October 26, 2007 18:40
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Friday, October 26, 2007 2:00 AM

Nice relative article, although somewhat biased as both parties use this tactic to a notorious degree.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/66062/?page=entire

I'll also note it seems to be a fairly common tactic here.

-F

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Friday, October 26, 2007 2:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Unlike the Democrats, Republicans have mastered the art of throwing hissy fits as a political tool to control political dialogue.

I guess you and the writer both missed the USSC confirmation hearings, Gen. Petraus' report to Congress, etc.... That line has to be one of the all time best switch and bait lines I've ever seen. The Dems, not the GOP, are the ones who've mastered the art of deception and false indignation.

The revisionist history of what was called the Wellstone 'wake' is a classic example the Dems telling us," who are you going to believe, your own lying eyes, or what we tell you to believe ? " That this writer either believes what he's saying or that just thinks he can con the reader into believing this tripe is Joseph Gerbles scary.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, October 26, 2007 3:28 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I'll also note it seems to be a fairly common tactic here.

Especially in your posts, which are almost always laced with emotional rhetoric and contrived outrage.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:06 AM

ERIC

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I'll also note it seems to be a fairly common tactic here.

Why...how DARE YOU?!? That is OUTRAGEOUS! What right do you have to smear the brave posters with your anti-FFF lies and propaganda? Why do you hate RWED? Don't you know they're the ONLY THING standing between Inara and a burqa?!?! I DEMAND an immediate and abject apology, which will subsequently be followed by a resolution to condemn. FOR SHAME!

BTW Frem, on a more substantial note, you see this about Genarlow Wilson?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071026/ap_on_re_us/teen_sex_case;_ylt=Aht
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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:21 AM

SERGEANTX

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Nice relative article, although somewhat biased as both parties use this tactic to a notorious degree.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/66062/?page=entire

I'll also note it seems to be a fairly common tactic here.

-F

Yeah.... it's pretty much all theater. This is why democracy has become a moot exercise.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, October 26, 2007 7:31 AM

RIGHTEOUS9

Good article. Democrats have been and are such pussies.

Granted, up until most recently they've had no main-stream media outlet to even the playing field aside from the daily show,

but even with the help of a more assertive Olbermann, and a capricious Matthews, as well as numerous others who have had to pretend to have credibility by starting to attack this administration for its glaring faults,

the democrats still cower and shake at the faux indignation of the party in the minority.

Nobody can trust their own party not to trip all over themselves and instead back them up, and few of them have balls that don't shrivel and fall off when they are left to twist in the wind by themselves.
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I will note that democrats have attempted their own counter outrage at times, like Reid's recent condemnation of Limbaugh, a sorry attempt with no teeth...a stern letter. Republicans get to censure moveon in a democratically controled senate, and in response, Reid writes a letter to Clear Channel? He's the fucking majority leader for crying out loud.

They just don't have any stomach for the game.

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Whereas republicans turn anything into an unconsciounable attack.

My favorite was how they turned Kerry's words about Cheney's daughter, something to the effect of her being a strong woman who is a lesbian, pointing out the hypocracy of Bush and Cheney's message, into a personal attack on the daughter.

It was so laughably absurd, but it worked. Cheney's wife was up on stage talking about how Kerry was "a bad man".

I mean, give me a fucking break.

Honestly, I think that worked because in the eyes of the xenophobic republican(not all of you), to bring up the fact that Cheney's daughter is a lesbian, is to insult the family, is to bring up some hurful fact best left hidden in the basement closet and not adressed.

It's a personal attack to them, because pointing out that "there's a lesbian in your house" is tantamount to saying "your flesh and blood lives in sin, and the world should know it." So repubs bought it, some because it was gleeful faux outrage, others because they genuinely believed it to be a personal attack.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 12:37 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Eh? Fuck You, Finn.

Ain't nothin contrived about me being outraged at watching both parties drop their pants and take a hefty dump all over the one thing that gives our country any meaning or value over a typical third world junta...
(That'd be the Constitution, you clueless berk.)
While slime like you stand on the sidelines with faux news pom-poms cheering, and then have the flaming *gall* to blame the very folks tryin to put a brake on the situation for how fucked up things have gotten.

Quit projecting your lame bullshit, pull your head out of your ass an take a good hard look at the world around you outside your bubble for once, and you might comprehend where the hell I am coming from, dickhead.

If ya ain't pissed off, ya ain't been payin attention.

Also.

RE: Genarlow Wilson.

I am very well aware of it, Eric - I've been all up in their ass about it on a regular basis, but till either the Governor (via clemency) or the State Supreme Court gets off their ass, there's nothing much further that can be done in that respect.

They're hoping if they lay low it'll fall out of the media and quietly go away, but some folk ain't gonna let that happen, so anything YOU can do to keep the pressure on would be handy.

Related Thread HERE - http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=29429
And feel free to bump it to keep attention on it, if you like.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, October 26, 2007 1:08 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Eh? Fuck You, Finn.

Ain't nothin contrived about me being outraged at watching both parties drop their pants and take a hefty dump all over the one thing that gives our country any meaning or value over a typical third world junta...
(That'd be the Constitution, you clueless berk.)
While slime like you stand on the sidelines with faux news pom-poms cheering, and then have the flaming *gall* to blame the very folks tryin to put a brake on the situation for how fucked up things have gotten.

Quit projecting your lame bullshit, pull your head out of your ass an take a good hard look at the world around you outside your bubble for once, and you might comprehend where the hell I am coming from, dickhead.

Thanks for proving my point.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 1:17 PM

FREMDFIRMA

What point, other than the one on your head ?

I'm verbally pounding on you cause you're a dick, what the hell does that have to do with politically contrived outrage ?

It's not like I am shocked, surprised or horrified by your behavior, just disgusted, and those milking it for political value are always demanding apologies besides.(See Also: Stark)

Or are you so steeped in inherent dishonesty that you cannot recognize a downright intentional, outright personal flaming for what it is ?

You're being a jerk, and so I am returning the favor, and I don't think either one of us is being dishonest in our mutual dislike.

Pissant.

-F

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Friday, October 26, 2007 1:24 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
What point, other than the one on your head ?

I'm verbally pounding on you cause you're a dick, what the hell does that have to do with politically contrived outrage ?

It's not like I am shocked, surprised or horrified by your behavior, just disgusted, and those milking it for political value are always demanding apologies besides.(See Also: Stark)

Or are you so steeped in inherent dishonesty that you cannot recognize a downright intentional, outright personal flaming for what it is ?

You're being a jerk, and so I am returning the favor, and I don't think either one of us is being dishonest in our mutual dislike.

Pissant.

-F

This is all contrived outrage – every bit of it.

Except for maybe “-F.”

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Friday, October 26, 2007 1:44 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Oh dear,

Finn ---- tsk tsk tsk. Whatever happened to your superior religious values ? Your moral fiber ?

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Friday, October 26, 2007 1:58 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
Oh dear,

Finn ---- tsk tsk tsk. Whatever happened to your superior religious values ? Your moral fiber ?

More contrived outrage from rue.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 2:25 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

No, just semi-interested distaste. And boredom. There's a lot to be said for boredom as motivation to reply to your posts.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 2:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

"tsk tsk tsk" is fake moral outrage? Oh dear. I thought it was just a mild granny-scolding. tsk tsk.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 2:31 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
No, just semi-interested distaste. And boredom. There's a lot to be said for boredom as motivation to reply to your posts.

You need a hobby.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 2:37 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

And you ? Is this what you do when you're posting for real ?

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:09 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
And you ? Is this what you do when you're posting for real ?

Yep. This is it. I like to watch scifi shows and come here to talk to like-minded people about stuff and not get called an asswipe or a pissant. I guess two out of three ain’t bad.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:17 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Then why be a twerp ?

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:19 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
Then why be a twerp ?

And here we go again.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:21 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

I'm serious.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:25 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

This is you entire first post:
Especially in your posts, which are almost always laced with emotional rhetoric and contrived outrage.

Second
Thanks for proving my point.

Third
This is all contrived outrage – every bit of it.
Except for maybe “-F.”

Fourth
More contrived outrage from rue.

Do you call this discussion ?

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And do you really expect people to take you seriously when you spend your time and effort doing this ? It's only a half-step above Jong quality.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:34 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

I call it more discussion then this:

“You're an idiot for your assumptions. A coward for bending over for the system. And an asswipe, just for being you.” -- rue

“Pretty personal, asswipe. And I TAKE it personally.” -- rue

“I'm pissed b/c you're an lying sack of crap. I sacrificed MY personal benefit over the last decades for people who need the help.

As for you ...

YOU'RE A SMALL PATHETIC DICK WHO CAN'T GET ANYTHING UP EXCEPT A LIE. ” -- rue

So spare me the self-righteous crap, K?

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:35 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

I just return it.

But you go out of your way to start. Why ?

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AH - never mind. I'm pretty sure I figured it out.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:51 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
I just return it.

And what were you returning? I didn’t insult you. You came up with that all by yourself. That's contrived outrage. You pretended to be angry in order to manipulate the argument, but all you ended up doing is flushing your credibility. Why?

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Friday, October 26, 2007 5:57 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"I didn’t insult you."

You mean you didn't use "bad" words. That doesn't mean you didn't and don't insult and flame people.

Oh, and nevermind answering, I've got you figured out.

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Friday, October 26, 2007 6:40 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
"I didn’t insult you."

You mean you didn't use "bad" words. That doesn't mean you didn't and don't insult and flame people.

No, I mean I didn’t insult you. And you know it.

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