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People who start having sex at a younger or older than average age appear to be at greater risk of developing sexual health problems later in life, a new study suggests.

The findings, according to researchers, cast some doubts on the benefits of abstinence-only sexual education that has been introduced in U.S. public schools.

Using data from a 1996 cross-sectional survey of more than 8,000 U.S. adults, the researchers found that those who started having sex at a relatively young age were more likely to have certain risk factors for sexually transmitted diseases (STD) -- including a high number of sexual partners and a history of having sex under the influence of alcohol.

On the other hand, both "early" and "late" starters were at increased risk of problems in sexual function. This was true primarily of men, whose problems included difficulty maintaining an erection and reaching orgasm.

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Using data from a 1996 cross-sectional survey of more than 8,000 U.S. adults, the researchers found that those who started having sex at a relatively young age were more likely to have certain risk factors for sexually transmitted diseases (STD) -- including a high number of sexual partners and a history of having sex under the influence of alcohol.

On the other hand, both "early" and "late" starters were at increased risk of problems in sexual function. This was true primarily of men, whose problems included difficulty maintaining an erection and reaching orgasm.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Quite the contrary, I’d say that the AJPH has just handed the abstinence-only crowd their smoking gun.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Another bogus medical study trying to pass off correlation as causation. Early or late loss of virginity are only indicators for other factors that affect health and sexual functioning. People who become sexually active early are most likely abused or promiscuous, which then leads to STDs.

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It's not possible to determine cause-and-effect from the survey data, according to the researchers.

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Quite the contrary, I’d say that the AJPH has just handed the abstinence-only crowd their smoking gun.

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Not really, I mean it doesn't indicate that Abstaining prevents STDs; it indicates that people who start earlier have higher incidences. There’s nothing inherently about sex before marriage.

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On average, respondents said they had sex for the first time around the ages of 17 or 18. Those who had their first sexual encounter at average age of 14 were considered "early starters" and those who started at age 22 or older were considered "later starters."

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
So? According to this study if you start having sex at a young age, which is what the abstinence-only crowd is trying to prevent, you are at greater risk of STDs and promiscuity, which is what the abstinence-only crowd has been saying all along.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
you are at greater risk of STDs and promiscuity,

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Originally posted by citizen:
The abstinence only crowd want to stop people having sex before marriage, finn.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
you are at greater risk of STDs and promiscuity,

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Risk of STD's I get, but risk of promiscuity??? Isn't that like, "risk of being at the amusement park too long", or "risk of too many episodes of Firefly" or some such?

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
If amusement parks and Firefly could result in disease or pregnancy and psychological health problems then yes, it would be exactly like that.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You can get diseases from eating at McDonalds, or touching your eye after visiting the loo; you can get psychological health problems from having idiot parents, or traitorous friends; you can get pregnant from having secret agencies use you to incubate super-soldier embryos...okay- I couldn't think of something for that last one- my point is that sex is natural, like eating. Do it wrong, and you'll get fat...paint it as sinful and you attach unnecessary emotional stress onto what's gonna happen sooner or later anyway.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Don’t play this game with me, Chris.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
That’s certainly the common straw man that substitutes for the Abstinence-only agenda, but it’s not really what they’re after. They want to prevent young people from getting involved in sex at too early an age, by limiting sexual activity to marriage only.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Don’t play this game with me, Chris.

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Being a bit of a rogue here , of course you're right.
But- true story- my first real girlfriend and I first did it in her bedroom; she said her Mom knew we were gonna, and she'd rather it be in the safety of her home rather than in a parked car. She had a great Mom.

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
That’s certainly the common straw man that substitutes for the Abstinence-only agenda, but it’s not really what they’re after. They want to prevent young people from getting involved in sex at too early an age, by limiting sexual activity to marriage only.

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So, they don't want to limit it to marriage, they just want to limit it to marriage. Sounds like they want to limit it to marriage to me.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
BS. I started young, had no STD's, and am going stronger than ever.

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Originally posted by rue:
"so why do people advocate that children should be allowed to have sex at will without parental consideration?"

Are you saying that the abstinence-only crowd invites their parents along on the honeymoon ?

Keeping it all in the family, eh ?

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Your lack of STDs just means you were a lucky little slut. Good for you

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The abstinence only crowd want to stop people having sex before marriage,finn.- Chrisisall

That’s certainly the common straw man that substitutes for the Abstinence-only agenda, but it’s not really what they’re after. They want to prevent young people from getting involved in sex at too early an age, by limiting sexual activity to marriage only.- Finn

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Originally posted by rue:
"You’re absolutely right. Since sex by it’s nature is generally a private thing and parents aren’t allowed to be directly involved in the children’s sex life, the only solution is to let children screw unabatedly without concern for their emotional or physical well-being."

Wait a minute. I thought the reason to not teach sex-ed in schools was because the parents are teaching it at home. So the parents are NOT now allowed to be directly involved in their children's sex lives ? That means the schools better start teaching sex-ed. Right ?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

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The abstinence only crowd want to stop people having sex before marriage,finn.- Chrisisall

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My mind just refused to jump off that cliff with you, Finn.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
FINN: Okay, Citizen said it not Chrisisall. (Are you sure I didn't make any spelling mistakes you'd like to point out?) But I see you avoided the real question, which is calling the "sex only in marriage" a straw man argument and then prompty repeating the very same point! How do you DO that? Surely, that's not what you meant!

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Who wants to live long anyhow?

All life is, is everything you gotta put up with between sexual intercourse. And if that isn't true for you, whoever is reading this, you need to re-evaluate and re-prioritize your positions.

Whether you were a pimp at 12 years old or you were a late bloomer that didn't get it till 22, live it... love it... learn it... and be the goddamned best at it that you can be... and hopefully you will be havin' it all of your life.

Nothing better in the world kids. Don't let an early death get in the way. Those nasty last 20 or 30 years, you can't get any without pills and who wants to have sex with anyone you could have sex with at that age anyhow?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Well you've always seemed like an upstanding citizen to me finn... you should give your mother more credit.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Ever notice how it's only white people who are concerned with birth control too? Probably too broad a generalization, but that's all I see on TV or in health class in school.

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Originally posted by rue:
The problem you have Finn is...

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Originally posted by rue:
"lived the young carefree free-love stuff during the 60s - for about a year when she was 15. After that, she spent 20 years struggling to raise children in abject poverty with no education. Sounds like a load of fun to me."

Sounds like a reason for abortion or adoption to me - and in the process becoming older and wiser.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I see, so 15 year old girls should screw all they want, because they can always kill or give away the pregnancies. Man that’s some cold shit.

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Originally posted by rue:
"As usual, you can’t deal with the issues"

As usual you duck actually discussing things by claiming there's nothing to discuss. Since everyone else will also be reading my post, they'll get that my post has substance and understand your tactics as well.

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Originally posted by rue:
Hmm, did I say that ?? Anywhere ?? No, I didn't.

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Your lack of STDs just means you were a lucky little slut. Good for you

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Somebody is jealous. Poor Hero, didn't get any then, ain't gettin' any now.

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My take on sex is that it is far more enjoyable and long lasting if taken with a degree of gravity and responsibility that it deserves. Take for instance my mother, who lived the young carefree free-love stuff during the 60s - for about a year when she was 15. After that, she spent 20 years struggling to raise children in abject poverty with no education. Sounds like a load of fun to me.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Because if you make sex horrific enough... outlaw condoms so people WILL get AIDS... fraught with danger and the possibility of many many children.... then of course young kids will think ahead and just say "no".

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