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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I found this personally offensive.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Well, I guess it has to do with WHY you own the property...

See, me and the Fremgirl saw the 401K implosion coming, and rolled those resources into a house, cause apartment living sucks - all great plans have a flaw, and the large house we planned to fill with kids, is fulla cats instead, since barring medical miracles, the kids ain't happenin, but still...

Thing is, we LIVE here - every time the value goes down, so do the outrageous property taxes, and we love our home, it's HOME, curse it, so you couldn't buy it from us for even four times it's value, something the locals find comforting because it means no developer is going to co-opt this street for as long as we live.

Folks who bought a home, a real HOME, to love and live in, really don't give a shit save for a vague uneasiness about equity, it's only folks buying houses as a resale venture that are pissin and moanin, but that's their own problem, when you swim with the shark called Usury, expect to get bit.

I'm only really pissed when they go to the Gov and demand that the Gov steal MORE money from their intended victims to cover the losses caused by those would-be-victims wising up to the scam.

THAT pisses me off, it does.

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Originally posted by Righteous9:

Here in America,we've all been sold on the idea that if you work hard and you play by the rules, one day you'll have a little piece of the American dream, your own house.

and looking back just a couple years to the artificially low interest rates and companies just approving everybody for their chance at a new home,

I'm not sure why its so in vogue to call everybody who bought the lie an idiot, and I'm certainly not sold on the idea that the only people getting burned here are those that were playing a dirty game.

I think more of them are like my manager, a man who looks like he's had a hard life, worked his way up in the kitchen at a diner, was finally given a position as a manager and took that job seriously, because it was beyond the opportunities that seemed to present themselves...

then one day, hype being what it was, hope and optomism being what it was, he let himself get duped into buying a home that he couldn't really afford.

He's upside down now, because of course the prices are falling, and his interest rates went up and he nearly lost his home, save a loan he got from his sister, and frankly, he probably still will lose it.

Now some people might have an ideal vision of the world as doggy dog, darwinian survival of the fittest...

"if you're dumb enough to fall for it, at least your money has gone to somebody more worthy of it..."

attitude, but I'm not one of them. Even if you're a callous bastard with no compassion, that model just doesn't make any sense. Our poor and desperate don't just die and leave room for our more "capable." They are still there, and the result of a failed state like that is that we feel the impact of that poverty even if we aren't directly suffereing from it.

We're all part of the same organism. We aren't long for this world if we forget that.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Government can't stop crime, Government IS crime.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Those responsible should be held accountable.

-F

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