WTF? People on here voted that Bush should be prez in '04?! by Agatsu

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
...because I thought people on here were - in lack of a better word - smarter than that....

i used to think the same thing... after that poll.... not so much.

i did not, would not, absolutely could not vote for bush... and after the election, i posted my thoughts on on the site below....

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

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Monday, March 3, 2008 5:16 AM

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And don't forget, John F. Kerry was the other choice.

*rimshot*

So true, so true.

I was pushing for Dean, but when he bent over the sawhorse for the Dem Leadership after they intentionally sandbagged him, one of their own, for not "playing ball" - I left him to the inglorious fate he so richly deserved for being gutless when it counted.

I didn't vote FOR Kerry, I voted AGAINST Bush.
http://www.kerryhatersforkerry.com/
Sums up about how all of us felt about his ass, too, that site does.

This election is more of the same, a pack of scumbags I wouldn't trust to get my trash to the landfill, much less in public office.

Not much sense placing an order when there's nothing on the menu you'd like to have, is there ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Monday, March 3, 2008 5:35 AM

Actually I think Jacob said it best...

"I remain totally unimpressed by John Kerry. Outside of his opposition to the death penalty, I've never seen him demonstrate any real political courage. His baby steps in the direction of reform liberalism during the 1990s were all followed by hasty retreats. His Senate vote against the 1991 Gulf War demonstrates an instinctive aversion to the use of American force, even when it's clearly justified. Kerry's major policy proposals in this campaign range from implausible to ill-conceived. He has no real idea what to do differently in Iraq. His health-care plan costs too much to be practical and conflicts with his commitment to reducing the deficit. At a personal level, he strikes me as the kind of windbag that can only emerge when a naturally pompous and self-regarding person marinates for two decades inside the U.S. Senate. If elected, Kerry would probably be a mediocre, unloved president on the order of Jimmy Carter. And I won't have a second's regret about voting for him. Kerry's failings are minuscule when weighed against the massive damage to America's standing in the world, our economic future, and our civic institutions that would likely result from a second Bush term."
-Jacob Weisberg

Truthfully, I never did find a single person who actually *liked* Kerry, just someone who knew someone who maybe did...

-F

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:00 AM

PIRATECAT

I voted for Bush twice. Do a third time. I don't need to use the F word to prove I'm intelligent.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:27 AM

BADKARMA00

Well said, PC. Agreement

Bad_karma
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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:59 AM

SERGEANTX

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
I just read the results of an old poll on here, about who should be the president of the U.S. (in '04), and most people voted for Bush?

Yeah... kinda sad, ain't it? Even more depressing is that over half the country fell for it. I can understand the first time around. Bush was preaching old-school conservatism and pretending to be against nation-building and big government waste. Talk about a turd in sheep's clothing.

But in '04, they had no excuse. They voted for him knowing exactly what he was. I honestly think it was just fear. All the chickenshits felt like we needed a belligerent foreign policy to show them evil terrorists how tough we are.

I suppose it really all comes down to this bill-of-goods we've been sold about 'viability'. We blindly accept the two establishment-approved as the only realistic choices. Sorry, but it's no choice at all, and until the morons that make up our pool of registered voters wake up, we'll keep getting the same crap. Look at this year's race for more details.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, March 3, 2008 8:06 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
I'm kind of baffled because I thought people on here were - in lack of a better word - smarter than that.

Serves you right for underestimating us...or is it overestimating...either way mating with us is not a good idea...no...I mean I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence had very little to do with that decision. No, that doesn't sound right either...'reporting for duty'...please, he lost that election before he finished saluting.

And Gore? A tree would get more votes and be far more effective. If AlGore fell in the woods and nobody was around, would he make a sound?

I still remember the Bush/Gore debate where Gore is following Bush around, trying to get in his camera shot while Bush is talking and Bush kinda turns and looks him up and down before smirking and continuing his answer. Great moment.

The real question to ask the Republicans on the board is Clinton or Obama? I'm voting Clinton here in Ohio cause the Republican race is over and I want the Democratic race to continue, every day, right through convention and street riots that will probably happen right after.

H

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Way I always figured it was like this:

If you voted for Bush the first time 'round, you could be forgiven. Especially if you weren't from Texas and didn't already know what a genuine pile of feces the guy is. I mean, this is the guy who giggled like a little schoolgirl while recounting the execution of a woman in Texas. Did she deserve to die? Almost definitely. BUT - and this is a big "but" - she, her church, and the Pope himself all said that she had reformed, accepted Jeebus, et cetera ad nauseum, and should not be executed. And Bush is supposedly (or, as he would say, "supposably") the guy who's big on being born again (pardon me for getting it right the first time) and getting second chances...

So, okay; you didn't know any better, and you voted for him once. That's... well, understandable isn't quite the right word...

But if you then voted for him in '04, you were actually being AGGRESSIVELY stupid. You were dodging the news, or anything that even HINTED of the facts. You were going far, far out of your way to stay ill-informed (by watching Faux News), misinformed (by listening to Rush Rim-job), or uninformed (by watching or listening to Bill Orally).

Anyone who could see the shape of the world in 2004 and still support Bush has my... what's the phrase I'm looking for? Sympathy? Nope, that ain't it. Pity? Nooooo, not that. Hate? No - hate's too strong a word. Let's just say dislike. As in, I dislike your choice of candidates with the white-hot intensity of a thousand exploding stars.

"Hero" wrote:

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...I mean I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence had very little to do with that decision.

[Cue Simon Cowell snarky voice] You're kidding. Really? I can't believe it...

'nuff said.

Mike

"I not only study for Prez-dent - I are one!" - George W. Bush

"Every time I see him, I can't help but think that somewhere, a village is missing a perfectly good idiot." - Everyone who ever met Bush

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:16 AM

CREVANREAVER

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And don't forget, John F. Kerry was the other choice.

Exactly. I'm a libertarian and voted for Michael Badnarik in 2004, but I was also a 'Anybody But Kerry' guy and would have chosen Bush over Kerry if I had to...and still would. George W. Bush may be a turd, but John Kerry's a douche.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:40 AM

SERGEANTX

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
... would have chosen Bush over Kerry if I had to.

But you didn't. And you didn't. That's what I think is the most painful issue involved in this. Not so much that some people thought Kerry was worse than Bush, but that they constrained themselves to two shitty candidates because ...because.. hell I can't think of a reason that makes any sense to me. Just movin' with the herd I guess. The 'other of two evils' excuse just doesn't cut it.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, March 3, 2008 11:46 AM

Considering all the shit Bush had to deal with, like the aftermath of the Dot.com bubble, 911, the largest natural disaster in US history and two wars. I think he has done a pretty good job. This country is still in pretty good shape considering what we've been through in the last 8 years. I'm not in any way assamed of voting for him twice. I think a few years down the road many that now hate Bush will be saying with the clarity of hindsight, that he was a good President.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 11:56 AM

GRIZWALD

I wasn't here for the poll, but yes, I voted for Pres. Bush, and I do not regret it. I am ready for something new, but I do not regret my choice, and I am quite happy here at FFF.net. Surprise.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:07 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Considering all the shit Bush had to deal with, like the aftermath of the Dot.com bubble, 911, the largest natural disaster in US history and two wars. I think he has done a pretty good job. This country is still in pretty good shape considering what we've been through in the last 8 years. I'm not in any way assamed of voting for him twice. I think a few years down the road many that now hate Bush will be saying with the clarity of hindsight, that he was a good President.

Question: How do you feel about Carter? He's typically vilified by the right, who can go on for days (and do, often) about how bad he was. You don't think he had things to deal with? Gas lines, the aftermath of our loss in Viet Nam, a general malaise and lack of morale in this country, and so on...

I'm just sayin', is all.

And the "two wars" thing that Bush had to deal with - that's all on him. One of them was a just war, the other was just a war. There IS a difference.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

Best. Quote. Ever.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:24 PM

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I think he has done a pretty good job. This country is still in pretty good shape considering what we've been through in the last 8 years.

That has got to be the most insane thing I have heard around here in weeks, and that's including PN's ranting.

I question your contact with reality.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:28 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I question your contact with reality.

Right back at cha big fellow.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:34 PM

....sweet, fancy moses...

this place is chock-full of ditto-heads....

(and i thought this was cool site once upon a time)

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Considering all the shit Bush had to deal with, like the aftermath of the Dot.com bubble, 911, the largest natural disaster in US history and two wars. I think he has done a pretty good job. This country is still in pretty good shape considering what we've been through in the last 8 years. I'm not in any way assamed of voting for him twice. I think a few years down the road many that now hate Bush will be saying with the clarity of hindsight, that he was a good President.

Question: How do you feel about Carter? He's typically vilified by the right, who can go on for days (and do, often) about how bad he was. You don't think he had things to deal with? Gas lines, the aftermath of our loss in Viet Nam, a general malaise and lack of morale in this country, and so on...

I'm just sayin', is all.

And the "two wars" thing that Bush had to deal with - that's all on him. One of them was a just war, the other was just a war. There IS a difference.

Mike

The first election that I was eligible to vote was when Carter was running for reelection. I voted for him, but given what I know now, I regret it. He was a good man until in recent years he has become bitter and somewhat of an annoyance. I like Presidents to go away after serving their term and don't like them acting like their still an elected official for life.

I agree that some of the problems that Bush has had to deal with are of his own making, but this was true of Carter also. The Iranians would have instantly handed back the hostages if he would have shown a little spine. His gloomy disposition sure did add to the economic problems and the funk that hung over the country at that time. I was lucky to have a job throughout that time but many of my friends got laid off. It always strikes me funny when I hear people tell me how bad things are now, when things were so much worst during Carters term. I'll take a housing bubble any day over 15% interest rates. I drive around now days and even in the middle of an economic downturn I see help wanted signs. I don't think I ever saw one in my youth, until I was about 25-30 years old.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:46 PM

HOPERULES

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I think he has done a pretty good job. This country is still in pretty good shape considering what we've been through in the last 8 years.

That has got to be the most insane thing I have heard around here in weeks, and that's including PN's ranting.

I question your contact with reality.

Why is it when discussing politics people don't talk about facts but throw around phrases like "the most insane thing I ever heard", "I question your contact with reality", and "WTF"? It seems like more of a personal attack than a honest difference of opinion. "Logic!... Why don't they teach logic at these schools." (C.S. Lewis)

May have been on the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:00 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
The first election that I was eligible to vote was when Carter was running for reelection. I voted for him, but given what I know now, I regret it. He was a good man until in recent years he has become bitter and somewhat of an annoyance. I like Presidents to go away after serving their term and don't like them acting like their still an elected official for life.

Bitter? All I ever see is Carter swinging a hammer for Habitat For Humanity, or helping to oversee elections overseas (we could sure use some of that help here at home, to make sure OUR elections aren't rigged. Or rigged AGAIN.), or traveling around the globe with Bush 1 trying to raise money to help out the impoverished.

I *do* wish former Presidents would go away, though. Especially the soon-to-be-former one. I'm sure he'll go on the speaking tour, but who in their right mind would actually PAY to hear him mangle the language is beyond me...

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I agree that some of the problems that Bush has had to deal with are of his own making, but this was true of Carter also. The Iranians would have instantly handed back the hostages if he would have shown a little spine. His gloomy disposition sure did add to the economic problems and the funk that hung over the country at that time. I was lucky to have a job throughout that time but many of my friends got laid off. It always strikes me funny when I hear people tell me how bad things are now, when things were so much worst during Carters term. I'll take a housing bubble any day over 15% interest rates. I drive around now days and even in the middle of an economic downturn I see help wanted signs. I don't think I ever saw one in my youth, until I was about 25-30 years old.

Actually, Carter DID show "a little spine". He OK'd a daring, but ill-fated, rescue mission utilizing the until-then-unheard-of Delta Force. They were supposed to use a modified C-130 to land in a soccer stadium, pick up the hostages, and get the hell out, but two of their support 'copters crashed into each other in a sandstorm, killing most if not all of the crews and the operatives.

Also, it was a bit difficult to get much traction with rescuing the hostages when Ronald "We don't negotiate with terrorists" Reagan was already DEEP into negotiations with those very same terrorists, playing into their hands in the hopes that they could conspire to make Carter look worse than he already did. In other words, Reagan sold out his country and his people for political gain. How very, very Republican of him.

As for things being "so much worst", I'm not convinced of that, at all. Not sure who it was that couldn't find a job, but *I* had a job, and I was a freaking stoner at the time!

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

Best. Quote. Ever.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:01 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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I think he has done a pretty good job. This country is still in pretty good shape considering what we've been through in the last 8 years.

That has got to be the most insane thing I have heard around here in weeks, and that's including PN's ranting.

I question your contact with reality.

Coming from you, your response is actually somewhat comforting to me.

Thanks Frem

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
[*I* had a job, and I was a freaking stoner at the time!

Ah, the good old days, when us stoners could still operate heavy machinery(dammed Meese).

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:17 PM

Oh my stars and garters, you actually GOT the double-ended joke I was making of that.

I didn't expect anyone to actually catch that ball, but folks will surprise you.

-Frem
EDIT: Actually I was kinda half-hoping to draw a quote from Book...
"Coming from you, that means... almost nothing."

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:41 PM

BADKARMA00

You know, I was thinking about commenting in here on this, but then I read things like 'land a c-130 in a soccer stadium' and, once I get over laughing, I figure, why bother.

Bad_karma
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Monday, March 3, 2008 4:36 PM

JRC

Hey it was modified, remember? Like maybe 20 feet long! With a crew of one.

Everyone dies alone.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:24 PM

AVENGINGWATCHER

To whomever said that Bush is doing a good job, ummm 9/11 was Bush's fault for blatantly ignoring the multiple warnings. Regardless of direct of indirect, he dropped that ball and he dropped the ball on international politics, the one time in recent history the world felt bad for us and he had to use it as a point to prove he was a hate monger. It happened on his watch.

Secondly, the country is in a recession, the housing market is in the toilet which are not entirely his fault, but a lot of the value of American money comes from faith in our figure head. Like it or not he speaks for America and who really wants to give their money to the D student in the class?

Third, the guy is a prick to our veteran's. For someone who can't even show up for his own duty he sure has a pair of brass ones to insult our troops the way he has. Our troops health and well being comes before pay increases in Washington or handouts to big corporations, or at least it should. I support the hunt for Osama, I support the war in Afghanistan, but Iraq was ill-conceived, poorly planned and completely pointless. If Bush had listened to Shinseki the war would have at least been planned well.

Fourth, the guy has an economic plan of "go buy stuff". Hello, buddy, have you seen the growth rate for people's salaries? People are actually making less now, well unless you are already insanely wealthy, because then your money improved.

Fifth, our borders are less secure now than during 9/11. It is so bad that volunteers have gone down to secure our borders. Now I have no real grudge against illegal immigrants, but seriously if we can't stop unorganized illegals from getting into our country , how do we expect to stop someone with a plan?

I may not agree with most Republican's on most things but, I can at least say that Bush senior had some brains in his head, hell even Reagan was better suited for presidency.

You know what I think would be best for America? Someone who was actually in the middle, in the terms of Ed Shultz " A hard line drive to left center" or Right center for that matter. Someone who took care of small business and the middle class, while fixing our broken welfare system, taking care of our veterans and reducing the size of our bloated bureaucracy. Take care of our elderly and make sure everyone can get at least emergency and life-saving care, as well as a preventative program to save money in the long term. Anyone else agree that we are far polar opposites?

Oh and let me say I am not calling Bush voters morons or anything, but do you really think we are better off? Bush makes me pray for Dole.

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:07 PM

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Originally posted by avengingwatcher:
Third, the guy is a prick to our veteran's. For someone who can't even show up for his own duty he sure has a pair of brass ones to insult our troops the way he has. Our troops health and well being comes before pay increases in Washington or handouts to big corporations, or at least it should.

I don't think all Veterans would agree with your characterization of Bush's treatment of Veterans. Bush in a recent speech to Veterans said,
" The time when we're holding down discretionary spending, my 2007 budget -- with my 2007 budget, my administration will have increased funding for our veterans by $35 billion since I took office, which is an increase of 75 percent. (Applause.)
We have made health care a top priority for my administration. With my 2007 budget, we'll increase VA's medical care budget by 69 percent since 2001. Our increased funding has given almost a million more veterans access to the VA medical care system. Since January 2002, disability claims are being processed 63 days faster than they were when I took office. In the last four years, we've committed almost $3 billion to modernize and expanding VA facilities so that more veterans can get care closer to home. We're working to ensure that veterans with the greatest needs -- those with service disabilities and lower incomes and special needs -- are given priority. We've making sure that our men and women returning from combat are the first in line for treatment. (Applause.) "

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Fifth, our borders are less secure now than during 9/11. It is so bad that volunteers have gone down to secure our borders. Now I have no real grudge against illegal immigrants, but seriously if we can't stop unorganized illegals from getting into our country , how do we expect to stop someone with a plan?

While I agree Bush hasn't done enough about border security, he has done more than any President in history. Bush deserves some credit for stopping illegals while at the same time his statements early in his administration did encourage immigrates to come to the US. In his own defense Bush said,
"Since I've taken office we've increased funding for border security by 60 percent. Our border agents have used that funding to apprehend and send home more than 4.5 million people coming into our country illegally, including more than 350,000 with criminal records.....

Arizona Border Control Initiative, which the government launched in 2004. In the first year of this initiative -- now, listen to this, listen how hard these people are working here -- agents in Arizona apprehended nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants, a 42-percent increase over the previous year. "

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Monday, March 3, 2008 10:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
I just read the results of an old poll on here, about who should be the president of the U.S. (in '04), and most people voted for Bush?
I'm kind of baffled because I thought people on here were - in lack of a better word - smarter than that.

Yes, it is often that pseudo-quasi-intellectual liberals assume they are smarter than everybody else, which is why they don't know much. When you learn and open your eyes, you'll become conservative.

But here is a real newsflash: can you imagine that almost half of the voters in America voted for Slick Willie? And then 4 years later, almost half the voters again voted for him? Now THAT's amazing. You'd think people would be smarter than that.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 1:45 AM

AGATSU

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Yes, it is often that pseudo-quasi-intellectual liberals assume they are smarter than everybody else, which is why they don't know much. When you learn and open your eyes, you'll become conservative.

"Pseudo-quasi-intellectual"? Wouldn't that mean they only appear to only appear as intellectual, thus making them actually intellectual? Pseudo-quasi-double negative and all...

Also, I didn't become anything but ALARMED and PISSED OFF when I learned and opened my eyes and witnessed the Bush administration shitting on everything the US supposedly stands for - and the whole WORLD was his toilet.
As a side note, many countries outside the US actually have a democracy that has more options than "conservative" and "liberal", so don't try to pigeon-hole me into your narrow-minded democratic system, kthx.
Remember right after 911? The US will NEVER get any more popular than at that moment, when most of the world showed their sincere sympathy and grieve. And then the Bush administration went completely fucking nuts.
INVADING A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY for democracy although the majority of the UNITED NATIONS is against it? Hooray for democracy, as long as people vote for whatever greedy agenda Bush has in store for the WORLD.
And Hooray for freedom, but let's take as much as possible of that away from our own people!
Ah, I didn't even wanna go there, look what you did. Now I get filed under "potential terrorist" in some database because of this post. Then again, according to the patriot act, we ALL are potential terrorists, so I'm ready to get kidnapped out of my own sovereign country to be held without trial for an indefinite amount of time in a prison outside the US where I can get my ass tortured. As an "enemy combatant", of course, because "Prisoners of War" can't be tortured due to the Geneva conventions (another stupid thing from "Old Europe" that is a thorn in W's side).

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

But here is a real newsflash: can you imagine that almost half of the voters in America voted for Slick Willie? And then 4 years later, almost half the voters again voted for him? Now THAT's amazing. You'd think people would be smarter than that.

I had no beef with Clinton. At least his shit didn't throw the WORLD (and that includes my little country in "Old Europe") into an unwinnable war against "terrorism", and he didn't come up with "Patriot Act I" and "Patriot Act with a Vengeance", nor pull a quarter of the shit W vomited on your once quite popular country and the rest of the world.
To be honest, I didn't even give a shit about who was president of the U.S. (gasp) until that chimp showed up with his buddies and I saw the whole planet going down the drain. I'm German, and let's just say I see a lot of history repeating.

However...

I still love y'all.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:14 AM

Scared & angry peeps vote for hawks to feel better is all. Bush used the negatives to his advantage, can't fault him for that. Just sad to see Browncoats so easily led by the nose....

See, I'd vote for Bush before I'd vote for Romney, because I see Romney as being even MORE dangerous to the country (in terms of escalating war & American deaths), I wouldn't AUTOMATICALLY rule out Bush because of conflicting views- and that's the anti-Kerry/Gore crowd...willing to see our troop's blood on Iraqi soil before they'd vote in a turd not of their 'liking'.

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:28 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
I just read the results of an old poll on here, about who should be the president of the U.S. (in '04), and most people voted for Bush?
I'm kind of baffled because I thought people on here were - in lack of a better word - smarter than that.

When you take out of the paranoid delusional nut bags that skew the average, we are a very smart bunch, which is why we voted for Bush in 04.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:40 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
[ When you take out of the paranoid delusional nut bags that skew the average, we are a very smart bunch, which is why we voted for Bush in 04.

Curious Finn, how would this country be WORSE off right now if we'd had Kerry (uggh) or Gore as Presidents? More American troop deaths? Bigger deficit? Worse economy? Greater trampling on our Constitution? More terrorist attacks? Weaker border control? Cleaner air? World War 4?
Really. What's so much better for having Bush/Cheney as opposed to the alternatives we had?

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:47 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Curious Finn, how would this country be WORSE off right now if we'd had Kerry (uggh) or Gore as Presidents?

Why don’t you tell me?

Then explain to me how we'b be better for changing administrations in the middle of a war?

And when Kerry lapses into his anti-war hippy days when he trashed American troops and praised the enemy that was killing them, how will that benefit the war?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:17 AM

Like a train wreck, isn't it ?

So absolutely horrible to watch, but you just can't resist looking, can you ?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:26 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Why don’t you tell me?

Less Americans and others would be dead right now for one.
Gore's no hawk, but I don't see him bein' an ostrich either.
I just don't realistically see how this world could have been worse off with Gore (or even Kerry (ughhh)).

The AlGore 5000 would have terminated the Talibanisall

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:27 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Like a train wreck, isn't it ?

So absolutely horrible to watch, but you just can't resist looking, can you ?

Yeah.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:52 AM

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I thought people on here were - in lack of a better word - smarter than that.
Defend yourselves and your vile Alliance sympathies!

after sleeping on this here question, i decided to show ya'll muy tru colors... let my freak flag fly, so to speak.... yeah, i reckon all us'ns out chere in the hinder lands is a might slow on the uptick, but lordy, lordy, we do's have us a right good time...

we's dont give a rats ass bout no civil rights or invirrment... .... thems just fancy words anyhow.... so's i called up my kissin cousin Freida Bee and she sented me some o her old stories... theys pretty good but they is one pitcher of cousin Freida passed out on the picnic table in her all unders... but taint nothing you wouldnt see down at the gulf o mexico.... so if'n you dont want to see no white girl flesh dont go to this here website deal..

i think ole Freida oughta be the prezdent anyhow...

http://freidabee.blogspot.com/search/label/Tha%20Florence%20Joe%20Diar
ies%3A%20Fer%20Tha%20Love%20a%20Gawd

hey meemaw... you got anymore a that lime koolade???

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:56 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Cheney says Bin Laden Innocent on 9/11

Nuff said.

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http://www.fox.com/fod/player.htm?show=tscc

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:00 AM

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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:

after sleeping on this here question, i decided to show ya'll muy tru colors...

Now at least I know who I'm dealin' with here...

The inbredisall

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:07 AM

Praise Jesus fer SPAM Singles!

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:14 AM

Deadlockvictim must be banned! He crossed the line of stupidity!!!

SO SAY WE ALL!

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:15 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Now at least I know who I'm dealin' with here...:

Au contraire, mon amie...

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:19 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
crossed the line of stupidity

it was a stupid line and was begging to be crossed

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:24 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
crossed the line of stupidity

it was a stupid line and was begging to be crossed

There's a line in the road begging to be crossed too, you might wanna oblige...you know, until you can't anymore, that is.

Taunting Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:40 AM

dang, Chris - all's i was tryin to do was bring youall a taste of real America and all's i get is a threat of banishment... and vague death threats to boot...!

go back and read Freida Bee's words and see if you don't agree that she has put her finger on the true essence of this fine country...

i mean, dang, is you is or is you aint my constituency..?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:48 AM