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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think the dog wasn't real after all!!! Ever throw a cat? I have (not to kill it- to get it to stop clawin' my leg), and if that puppy weighed what a smallish cat did, the toss at that speed is impossible due to it's weight- only a stuffed dog weighing very little could accelerate like that given the scruff-of-the-neck hold. Plus it spun in the air too fast to really weigh anything.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:


You totally flunked physics , didn't you ?

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
You were probably never exposed to any real 'sciency' stuff , at all , huh ?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by out2theblack:


You totally flunked physics , didn't you ?

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Please sir- enlighten me. I want to know when I eff-up....

Chrisisall

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Originally posted by out2theblack:


You totally flunked physics , didn't you ?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
You were probably never exposed to any real 'sciency' stuff , at all , huh ?

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Okay Mr. Wizard, how do you throw a two pound sack of meat like a baseball without putting the force behind it's mass? I just watched it again, he tossed it at speed from the 'scruff of the neck' without a protracted wind up.

What? No answer?

Thought so.
Chrisisall

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Do you really ?

Then do some wiki-google and look up things like :

'momentum' , 'laws of motion' , 'acceleration' , and 'centripetal force'...

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Originally posted by out2theblack:




No pi$$ing match intended...If you want to know stuff about two-pound sacks of meat , you'll first have to employ that one within your cranium...Or , if you're not sufficiently motivated to do that , you could try tossing that one...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That (if real) was fucked up & unwarranted. It shows the numbing effect of war on young kids.
I guess some will say it was just a 'Taliban' puppy, though. That poor mutt came to a quick end, but that soldier's soul is gonna be missing something when it gets back home. Wanna bet dudes like that don't become alcoholic wife-abusers and shoot themselves at a later date?
Jeeze.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:




No pi$$ing match intended...If you want to know stuff about two-pound sacks of meat , you'll first have to employ that one within your cranium...Or , if you're not sufficiently motivated to do that , you could try tossing that one...

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Yeah, I see your point about inertia...WAIT, NO I DON'T, CAUSE YOU AREN'T PUTTING UP A COGENT ARGUMENT- you just wanna fight!!!
Well you lost already, Hans, don't make me drop you off the Nakatomi building.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

You may be awake and facing me , Son...

BUT , you ain't 'armed'...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Do you really ?

Then do some wiki-google and look up things like :

'momentum' , 'laws of motion' , 'acceleration' , and 'centripetal force'...

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So I should look up some words to understand the application of physical laws?
Explain to me how it's possible to get that weight to that speed WITHOUT proper application of force.

Oh, I already did that- it's a toy that don't weigh much.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

You may be awake and facing me , Son...

BUT , you ain't 'armed'...

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Clever, you are not without your finer points, but explaining where I'm wrong surely ain't one of 'em.
Wanna duck the question a 6th time?

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Yup , 'cause if you don't get the 'words' , you sure ain't gonna 'do the math'.

Mass X velocity...You contradict-yourself-is-all...

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Originally posted by out2theblack:




Not my mission to 'educate' you , is all..I've just given you the 'tools'...

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Do you really ?

Then do some wiki-google and look up things like :

'momentum' , 'laws of motion' , 'acceleration' , and 'centripetal force'...

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Explain to me how it's possible to get that weight to that speed WITHOUT proper application of force.
Oh, I already did that- it's a toy that don't weigh much.
Feel free to sound even more like an ass, though...

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Never said there was not a 'proper' application of force...

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What does that MEAN , anyway ?

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See here , for the unscientific folk out there , the Outcome of the Experiment depends upon the Assumptions one makes going in...

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How do you KNOW , "it's a toy that don't weigh much" , and explain how you applied that Assumption

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Are you tellin' me that some Marines ordered a 'magic puppy' to produce an Abu Ghraib-style outrage ?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That (if real) was fucked up & unwarranted. It shows the numbing effect of war on young kids.
I guess some will say it was just a 'Taliban' puppy, though. That poor mutt came to a quick end, but that soldier's soul is gonna be missing something when it gets back home. Wanna bet dudes like that don't become alcoholic wife-abusers and shoot themselves at a later date?
Jeeze.

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See , you were probably more correct on your first pass at this...

It's a sick joke , at best...

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
That was fairly obviously a stuffed dog.

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And the soldier was clearly just goofing around. I can't believe that this has been turned into such a big deal. He should get little more than public reprimand and the matter dropped. Our press is such a fucking freak show.

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Originally posted by Strangebird:



Also, you two need to chill it with the physics lessons.

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Originally posted by Strangebird:


Yes it does look fake, and I surely hope it is. Still sick either way.

Also, you two need to chill it with the physics lessons.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:


But , a certain aggressive poster has insisted on continually digging a deeper hole for himself...

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But , a certain aggressive poster has insisted on continually digging a deeper hole for himself...

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BTW Out2, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
I mean, that's what your argument comes down to, right? You need not prove me wrong, you only need to say I know nothing of physics, and that's that?
I didn't know you were a NeoCon...
You're NOT? Oh sorry.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Lemme put this in a different context for you.

But it's kinda hard to get worked up over this when we're doing as bad or worse to humans over there as a matter of policy, ok ?

Consider how effective the political dehumanisation of those people has been, that this incident draws more ire than children dying of dehydration cause we blew the water supply infrastructure to hell and gone.

And Chris has a right to be skeptical, this is a media that tried to sell us the decapitation of a damned G.I. Joe doll as the real thing, so it's not like a grain of salt isn't warranted...

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
The way I see it both sides are right to some extent on the physic of a flying puppy. While it is true that from F=mA(force=mass*acceleration)you can see in the form A=F/m that acceleration is inversely proportional to mass, assuming a equal initial force the lighter puppy has greater initial acceleration. But at the same time the heavier puppy has a greater kinetic energy at a given velocity (T=1/2mv2). Because drag is equal on both puppies, The kinetic energy of the lighter puppy is quickly overcome by drag while the heavier one has more energy to offset drag. This should mean that after a short distance the heaver puppy will have greater velocity.

It's been many years since I studied physics so I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

I didn't want to have to explain the basic physics of the projectiles in question , because if someone doesn't get the
basic-basics , then they certainly also won't get the often-counterintuitive aerodynamics...

But , you did it concisely , probably better than I might've done...

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Just hate having to fault folk for their fallacious , and almost invariably , unscientific , 'assumptions'...Especially when they persist in cherishing said assumptions...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Effue you elitist psuedo-scientist. You wanna discuss physics in techno-speak detail instead of paying attention to the real-world application, go ahead.
This is exactly why I visit RWED less and less- the self-important ego-driven semantics that take the place of idea exchange
I asked you to correct me, but you wanted to stroke your vocabulary instead- you're worse than McKay on Stargate Atlantis, at least he'd explain himself while enjoying his smugness.
Plus, you put inappropriate spaces before commas, and capitalize when there's no need.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Frem tells someone to 'do their own homework' and he's the man. Out2theblack says the same thing and he's an 'elitist pseudo-scientist'.

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Frem tells someone to 'do their own homework' and he's the man. Out2theblack says the same thing and he's an 'elitist pseudo-scientist'.

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See? This is more of the same. If I say 1+1=3, it's easy enough to say, "No, it's 2", but If I say "Why did Hitler bomb England?"- that a whole big thing. But seeing as you just wanna slam me and other folks who don't see Bush as a good President, you can just believe what you like, you're gonna anyway, I conjure.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:


I don't know enough physics due to lack of math skills to even comment intelligently beyond that.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:Oh, and someone found this...
http://www.magic.org/store/product_info.php?products_id=4119
Still no words?

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I admit when I'M wrong- but that's just me.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
All that bein said, I am more concerned with what we're doing to the HUMANS there, myself.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Chris, it is fairly obvious Out2theBlack is a troll. Just ignore him/her. Tryingtogetyour goatisall.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:


I have to say, I've never seen you this ruffled up before.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Do you remember how it felt when certain members of this site referred to you as a troll, guess not.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
.. I'd hear time & again that I was wrong, but it was followed by no corrective advice leading me to believe that when folks do this, they are just hammering on someone to make some part of THEM feel better, + residual issues surrounding it for me.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Do you remember how it felt when certain members of this site referred to you as a troll, guess not.

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They did? I guess I missed that.

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