Most evil corporation on earth by canttakesky

Interesting - wasn't aware of that, Geeze, I'll make a note and do some digging later.

I would say the Federal Reserve Bank, which is in fact a private corporation, with no clear determination of ownership, and if I started listing even the obvious reasons, we'd be here all day.

Runners up.
WWASPS
Monsanto

I very specifically do not cite Microsoft, although I consider them 'evil' it's a petty one in the grand scheme of things, without the wholesale economic, social, or ecological damage or even it's potential that the above three have.

The question one should ponder when thinking of something like this is the matter of scale, although Geeze doesn't provide a lot of information, a sole provider can really cause nationwide damage over time.

But even nationwide damage pales in comparison to planet-wide devastation, something only one of the companies named above even has the potential for - but innocent till proven guilty, and negligence is not intent, so imma hafta go with the FED, on this one.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:29 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I would say the Federal Reserve Bank, which is in fact a private corporation, with no clear determination of ownership, and if I started listing even the obvious reasons, we'd be here all day.

Oh please do list the obvious reasons. Cause you know, I need "Money for Dummies"...

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:32 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
But anyway. Gazprom - Russia - It's state owned, it's a true monopoly, and it's used as a weapon by the Russian autocracy.

That's very vague. What kind of weapon? What do they make or do? What kind of evil has it *done*?

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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:00 AM

I'd like to nominate Monsanto (American).

1. Roundup. Marketed as pesticide, but actually kills plants. Farmers are forced to buy Roundup resistant seeds.

2. Contamination. Suing and breaking farmers for using seeds contaminated with Monsanto technology through no fault of their own. Terminator Seeds and the Doomsday Seed Vault (That is creepy, at best--rotten to the core evil at worst.)

3. Dumping toxic waste in UK and Anniston, AL. Making and selling products toxic to humans, such as Agent Orange.

I'd like to give Kellogg honorable mention. I have a personal beef with the Kellogg Foundation, who fluoridated most of the salt here in South America. Unfluoridated salt is extremely expensive and unaffordable to most local folk. I have to import my salt from the States. Bastards.

But here is a list of stuff I've never even heard of.

http://www.globalexchange.org/getInvolved/corporateHRviolators.html

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Corporation: An ingenious device for obtaining profit without individual responsibility.
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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:40 AM

FREDGIBLET

http://www.cracked.com/article_15967_awful-truth-behind-5-items-probab
ly-on-your-grocery-list.html

This just came up today, thought I'd post it here.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:14 AM

Yeah, United Fruit figured rather prominently in the mutterings of former Maj Gen Smedley Butler, so I was already familar with that mess.

-F

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:16 AM

Quote:
Oh please do list the obvious reasons.

1. Usury
2. Paper Money
3. Bills of Credit

http://www.rogershermansociety.org/caveat.htm
Original publication, 1752
Roger Sherman is the author of Article 1 Section 10 of the United States Constitution: “No State shall ... make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts”

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Monday, March 3, 2008 11:20 AM

KIRKULES

China North Industries Corporation, known as Norinco

1. State owned
2. Sells advanced weapons to Iran.
3. Tried to sell 2000 full-auto AK-47s to US drug rings and street gangs.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:10 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

1. Monsanto: GMO "Terminator Seeds" spliced with E.coli to produce pesticide in your gut, then mutate to kill all life on planet Earth

2. Federal Reserve Bank Corp: Counterfeit all "US dollar bills" and keep all income taxes

The Summer Glau Chronicles: Free download of all episodes
http://www.fox.com/fod/player.htm?show=tscc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng
Hanoi Hannity: "I voted for the Sino-American Alliance."
"US ports owned by Commie China is good for me."
"Dead and disabled US soldiers are good for me."
"Outsourcing your job is very good for me."
"Sir Rupert dines with Hillary every week."
"Ron Paul does not exist in my 'Verse."
"Vote for Billary not McCain."

"As far as Chinese goes, I resented it."
-Adam Tudyk, The Making of Firefly

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:56 PM

AVENGINGWATCHER

I say fox
they canceled firefly

Man this list could go on and on with massively horrible companies

Union carbide
debeers
halliburton
exxon-mobil
phillip-morris

here's a link you guys might like
http://karim.gnn.tv/blogs/11333/Report_The_14_Most_Evil_Corporations

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:33 PM

FREDGIBLET

Quote:
Originally posted by avengingwatcher:
here's a link you guys might like
http://karim.gnn.tv/blogs/11333/Report_The_14_Most_Evil_Corporations

So we've got assassinations, chemical spills, child slavery and...selling bulldozers...why exactly is Caterpillar on the list? Because Israel used their bulldozers to cause some damage? Shouldn't NORINCO or the Russian small arms companies be on the list if "selling things that people use to kill people" qualifies you?

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:59 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Quote:
Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Quote:
Originally posted by avengingwatcher:
here's a link you guys might like
http://karim.gnn.tv/blogs/11333/Report_The_14_Most_Evil_Corporations

So we've got assassinations, chemical spills, child slavery and...selling bulldozers...why exactly is Caterpillar on the list? Because Israel used their bulldozers to cause some damage? Shouldn't NORINCO or the Russian small arms companies be on the list if "selling things that people use to kill people" qualifies you?

You would have to put all the arms companys on the list then, mind you it might be more accurate to place the governments that fronted the money on the list.

Chinese, Russian, Israeli, American, British, Belgian... the list goes on

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 10:19 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

The most evil company in the world? Why that's easy. That would be Australian Homemade. They are a Dutch company based in the Netherlands that is so evil, they make pastries that aren’t Australian or homemade.

Behold their evil website:
http://shop.australianhomemade.com/country.asp?p=%2Findex%2Easp

Examine if you dare, their 9 pack of luscious assorted chocolates, evil though they may be.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:18 AM

Feel the power of the dark(chocolate) side!

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 9:36 AM

AVENGINGWATCHER

Finn,
LMAO that was incredibly well timed.

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 9:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
When there are no heroes where will we turn?

Ourselves.

The myth of the hero is the most debilitating of our entire human history. Next to the myth of god, that is.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
1. Usury
2. Paper Money
3. Bills of Credit

Thanks Frem. Of course, after you listed the obvious, I was like, DUH.

I also found the following articles. They are both "Money for Dummies" type articles.

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FED.html

http://ecclesia.org/truth/reserve.html

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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802).

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:54 PM

Finn, that was VERY funny. Thanks.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:57 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Quote:
Originally posted by canttakesky:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
1. Usury
2. Paper Money
3. Bills of Credit
Thanks Frem. Of course, after you listed the obvious, I was like, DUH.

I also found the following articles. They are both "Money for Dummies" type articles.

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FED.html

http://ecclesia.org/truth/reserve.html

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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802).

I would suggest this book

http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298
6212

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 7:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Chinese, Russian, Israeli, American, British, Belgian... the list goes on

America....

Now you're getting it. Corporation vs. Government? Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Thanks for the book recommendation. It's in my wish list now.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 12:19 AM

BADKARMA00

I'll have to go with:

1) Wal-Mart
1) Monsanto ( the evil seed company, spelling?)
3) Democratic National Committee

4) Wal-Mart
5) Hostess (got us all hooked on twinkies)

The first two are serious btw.

Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Brotherhood of Moonshiners, Rednecks, and Good Old Boys.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Wow. This is like being in a candy store with thousands of items to choose from (including those homemade Ozzie pastries.)

Needs some thought!

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:24 AM

Frem,

I'm starting to think you're right (as usual). The FED is more evil than Monsanto.

http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/dollar-deception.php

This is an excellent, well-referenced article that is easy to understand, even for people like me. It explains the "house of cards built on top of tissue paper fiction."

They need to teach this in every school, dontchathink? Why am I just learning about this at age 40? And I'm a reasonably educated and intelligent person, who distrusts government! I am ashamed that I didn't know this earlier.

I always had a vague idea of the Fed's scam, but just didn't put in the effort to really understand it. Too busy trying to understand the scams of medicine, didn't see this WAY bigger one.

So Frem, is there any other scam bigger than this? What are the biggest scams every American needs to know about?

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:25 AM

I couldn't pick just one, heck I could probably list 100. I'll start with ten.

Comcast
Monsanto
Wal-Mart
Bank of America
News Corp/Fox News
AT&T
Blackwater
RIAA
Haliburton
Exxon

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-- Charlie Brown

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:32 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
News Corp/Fox News

Why? Are they truly evil or do you just not like what they have to say or how they say it.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:34 AM

Allow me to second that vote for Comcast.

I personally have craploads of dirt on them, and they are so tremendously hated here that their offices in this locality are built like bank vaults, complete with GEC Lexan armor plate between the "service" reps and the very angry customers.

And I mean *serious* dirt, but like with AOL, so many are 'on the payroll' that no one wants to shut off the tap by addressing it.

I don't feel a bit sorry for the bath Time-Warner took when the truth came out, neither.

Oh, and CTS - hands down the best summary in clear plain english will be found here.
http://www.bigeye.com/bankers.htm
By Pastor Sheldon Emry, as I recall.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
News Corp/Fox News

Why? Are they truly evil or do you just not like what they have to say or how they say it.

Firefly and Wonderfalls aren't enough?

Why are they evil? Because they control the flow of information to the people. What they say is the word. Their influence is noticeable (and negative imo) across the world. They keep people in a fearful and ignorant state. The Sun? Fox News? New York Post? They are manipulating people with sensationalism. When one company owns newspaper, television, publishing, satellite, magazine, and internet businesses it can control thought. I may be paranoid, but I'm not alone.

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-- Charlie Brown

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:44 AM

I know this is gonna sound entirely bizarre...

But you need to like create, like a stuffed TWG doll or something, I don't know what it is about you, girl, but your very presence seems to be a pavlovian trigger for nice behavior.

*pictures raggedy-ann holding a jug of 'milk of human kindness'*

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 6:54 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I know this is gonna sound entirely bizarre...

Bizarre's not so bad. It could have a pull string that says RWED quotes.

When I had my cafe press shop, I think my Mom was the only one to ever buy something. Heh. She bought a lot though.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 7:30 AM

Hey, look, I found one, even kinda looks like you!

Yes, I know.. let's see if anyone else does.
It's SOOOooo YOU though!

-F

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 8:04 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Firefly and Wonderfalls aren't enough?

Did not think Fox News had anything to do with it. Aren't they different divisions of the same company?

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Why are they evil? Because they control the flow of information to the people. What they say is the word. Their influence is noticeable (and negative imo) across the world. They keep people in a fearful and ignorant state. The Sun? Fox News? New York Post? They are manipulating people with sensationalism. When one company owns newspaper, television, publishing, satellite, magazine, and internet businesses it can control thought. I may be paranoid, but I'm not alone.

How about CNN or MSNBC? Is a corporation evil simply because you do not like what is being said? That is a dangerous road to go down IMHO.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 8:26 AM

TWG,

You're supposed to list 3 reasons why your nominee is evil. Cmon, at least one reason per nominee?

We need to know why they deserve to win the award out of soooo many candidates.

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All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise, not from defects of the Constitution, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.
--John Adams

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 8:32 AM

BULLETINTHEBRAINPANSQUISH

Fox News is a subset of News Corp. Look up News Corp and see all the holdings. No one man/board should have that much influence on media content. You know how we all complain that masses don't know what's going on? It's because these guys control what's being said. They cater to the governments and in turn the governments allow them to break/change the laws.

I have to listen reasons for those 10? Even the ones previously outed by others in this thread?

As I age, I get more paranoid. Idocracy gave me nightmares.

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-- Charlie Brown

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Saturday, March 8, 2008 1:45 AM

Does McDonalds count? Because they've got to be right up there with the others listed. Not only have they been the front-runners in the increase of obesity and heart problems world-wide as well as other health and eating related issues, but they have also contributed to some horrendous environmental problems. I truly hate McDonalds.

"Kaylee, find that kid who's takin a dirt nap with Baby Jesus: we need a hood ornament!"

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Saturday, March 8, 2008 9:23 AM

ALLIETHORN7

Well, I don't that the increase in obesity counts on McDonalds- that would be human error. Can't help if people are dumb enough to keep on buying what kills 'em faster.
But those enviornmental problems, they work.

How-come-some-ever... pray tell, what are they?

-Danny

Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now controls the past
Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now?

Now testify
Testify
It's right outside our door
Now testify
Testify
It's right outside our door

The Band of the week is... Rage Against the Machine
Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.
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Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:40 PM

ERIC

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
I have to listen reasons for those 10? Even the ones previously outed by others in this thread?

Apologies if I missed it posted above, but certainly a good one is the old bovine growth hormone story lawsuit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_Growth_Hormone#Lawsuit_against_Fox
_television

Quote:
The appeals court's decision on the verdict was on the basis that FCC policies on news agencies reporting the truth did not legally require the station to report the truth in a news story, as FCC policies are not law.

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Idocracy gave me nightmares.

But...it's got what you crave- ELECTROLYTES!!!

Awesome movie.

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Monday, March 10, 2008 3:35 PM

HOSTILE17NOW

US. WALMART / HOMEDEPOT /the US.auto Industry /
The FDA

Why

#1 Thay destroy small business.
#2 Thay take advantage of slave labor.
#3 Thay posion peopole with drugs thay don't need,
& drugs that can cause illness in our
Medication and in our food and in our water.

have a nice day..

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Monday, March 10, 2008 7:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
I have to listen reasons for those 10? Even the ones previously outed by others in this thread?

List what you want. It just helps the rest of us to understand why you think they are evil. Saves us from having to google their names and "evil."

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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:17 PM

These are just a few of the companies I have learned about. I'm sure there are many many more worse corporations out there.

Comcast: Well, they bought TechTv and ruined it. Actively blocks and filters content so internet users do not receive the fastest/unfettered access internet connection. They paid people to attend their FCC Hearing and "support" them, effectively blocking opponents from fitting into the room. They are striving to change laws to work against net neutrality. Their customer service is notoriously lacking. They up rates without notifying consumers. You must pay to stop receiving mail...mail, they are saving money by not sending you mail and you have to pay for it to stop. Nice.

Monsanto: Sure, they help increase the world's supply of crops, but at a downside. They have dumped PCBs (US government considers it a carcinogen) in rivers and buried waste in our landfills. Several countries have various lawsuits and claims against them for untested hormones, pollution and false advertising. In principle I don't have a problem with engineered food, but I'd like it to be safe.

Wal-Mart: They destroy businesses and create low paying jobs. Workers do not have adequate health care. Wal-Mart encourages its employees to use public assistance. Their average full-time hourly employee makes less than $18,000 a year. They work without breaks or compensation. The EEOC has filed more suits against them than any other corp. They important more merchandise from China and other poor factory locations like Burma and Honduras than anyone else...even adding Made in the USA labels. They have been repeatedly fined by the EPA for contaminating water supplies. They got rid of their meat counters because 20 butchers signed union cards. Chain-wide only prepackaged meat is now sold. Local economies subsidize Wal-Mart. Yep, everyone pays to keep them in business.

Bank of America: They share this spot with many big box banks like Citibank. They charge crazy fees that are often undisclosed. In fact, they've been brought to court by consumers for such practices. They've bent the Fed's rules about lending capital: usually capped at 10%, bank of America has used 30%. Potentially leaving them open to all sorts of trouble. I tend to look closely at companies that 'lose' personal data. 1.2 million records lost. Good work.

News Corp/Fox News: See above semi-rant.

AT&T: They spy for the NSA, RIAA, and MPAA. Do they have the right to sift through your data and turn it over without so much as a warrant or tap? Nope, but they do. It's not new either; they have been helping the government spy before the 9/11 terrorism scare. They have a huge amount of control over the internet and phone networks. At some point most data touches an AT&T network. Verizon, and BellSouth have also been implicated in the NSA activities to spy on tens of millions Americans.

Blackwater: Destroys evidence of unprovoked attacks. Pull weapons on and disarms US soldiers in an attack zone. They use CS gas without military approval. Neither they or their employees have been brought to justice for several murders. Use of creative accounting had them not paying taxes, medicare, SS, or unemployment.

RIAA: Bringing suits against grandmas and universities is silly. Record labels around the world use file sharing as a benefit, but not the RIAA. They have kept the monies awarded from the suits. Artists have not been compensated with the money the RIAA was supposedly winning for them. Last year they worked to make a flat fee official, now they are lobbying not to have to use their own rates. RIAA want special consideration to pay a small percentage rate.

Halliburton: They gave contaminated water to troops. Yeah, that's hard to check, especially since they are supposed to be monitoring it anyway. They have to pay back millions of dollars for charging too much. Like Blackwater, they evade taxes. Numerous young women have reported being attacked and raped by Halliburton members, yet no one is charged. Not even the Justice Department is willing to bring charges against them. WTF? There is evidence and witnesses, yet these women have no recourse.

Exxon: They have such great potential. Not the all encompassing evil that others on this list are. One of world's largest companies and one with a terrible environmental record. They lobby that alternative fuels are not viable and wish to drill in the Arctic reserves. Once again, a billion dollar company taking advantage of tax subsidies it doesn't need.

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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:29 PM

ARCLIGHT

"But anyway. Gazprom - Russia - It's state owned, it's a true monopoly, and it's used as a weapon by the Russian autocracy."

Yep, I'll have to agree. I've worked with these bastards before. They make Exxon-Mobile, Royal Dutch Shell, EP, Wal-Mart, Haliburton, Mansanto, Kroger etc, etc, etc look like well behaved children.
There is NOTHING, NOTHING in the world uglier and more destructive than a Gazprom Pipeline. NOTHING. PERIOD.
I love Wal-Mart 'cuz of what I have seen in the real world.

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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:31 PM

I must admit I am shocked, particularly in light of the fact that you obviously know some of the details on Verizon I have in fact chosen not to share...

How it is that you know all this, and don't wind up as grumpy and snarky as me ?
*squeezes TWG doll*
(don't laugh, yes, I DID buy one, shaddap)

That's not really a rhetorical question, mind you - I was discussing role models with the niece and she was a bit stunned to realize that I also considered Yuna (from FF-X/FF-X2) to be someone to look up to, cause even with all she's been through she doesn't hate anyone.

I just wanna know how - I don't think I could ever let go of my own, since there's been times it's all that kept me alive, but still, if there's a way to understand people who don't hate, and how and why, I'd give much to know it.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:29 PM