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Originally posted by AURaptor:

No, he didn't. He meant Saddam, slip of the tongue. Doofus. Silly post.

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Freudian slip
a mistake made in speaking by which, it is thought, the speaker inadvertently reveals unconscious motives, desires, etc.
-Websters New World Dictionary

"So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
—Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks."
—Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

QUESTION: "Mr President, in your speeches, you rarely mention Osama Bin Laden. Why is that?"
GEORGE BUSH JR: "I don't know where he is. I just don't spend that much time on him."

"9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."
—FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

"The goal has never been to get Bin Laden."
—General Richard Myers, chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff
http://myspace.com/911pressfortruth

OPERATION NORTHWOODS - the signed confession by US Govt for perping terrorist attacks in USA
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

September 911 Surprise
http://september911surprise.com

American Scholars Symposium
http://piratenews.org/911con.html

How to mutiny during the Iraq War and get promoted to work for Dick Cheney at the Pentagon:
http://piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower.html
http://geocities.com/pentagonwhistleblower

Glenn Beck french kisses Ron Paul then kills him for 9/11

Bush & Cheney sued by 9/11 victims and RICO Act for perping 9/11 Massacres
http://911forthetruth.com

"On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence. We appreciate hearing your views and welcome your suggestions. Due to the large volume of e-mail received, the White House cannot respond to every message. Thank you again for taking the time to write."
comments@whitehouse.gov

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Where ahs Bush lied ?

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Don't compare Bush to a pathological liar ( Clinton ) when he isn't.

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folks making baseless claims

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going off on absurd tangents.

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I'll never understand the childish love affair of photo shopping real news images and posting phoney , fabricated info on legit broadcast images , news papers, and the like , for the explicit intent to deceive and lie to the people.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
This is me laughing at you.

He's a politician, and lying, cheating and stealing is HIS JOB.

So, really, either way you look at it, he's incompetent, isn't he ?


Seriously, do you actually BELIEVE that stuff you're shovelling ?

Cause I assure you, if you are, something I highly doubt, then you're probably the only one.

-Frem

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Despite the far Left wing web site's claims, not once did Bush knowingly utter anything which he knew catagorically to be false. He could have been wrong, but it's pure opinion ( not fact ) that Bush KNEW in advance things he was saying were false and passing them off as 'true'.

Bush didn't lie per Iraq. Get over it.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'll never understand the childish love affair of photo shopping real news images and posting phoney , fabricated info on legit broadcast images , news papers, and the like , for the explicit intent to deceive and lie to the people.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're simply a parrot for the Left wing, Hate America 1st cause...

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
One ? just one...
Ok, and I'll even make it a slambang doozy of a shitter, just to make the point.

"We've found the weapons of mass destruction. You know, we found biological laboratories."
May 30, 2003 @ approx 5pm EST

Your problem is that you are so wrapped up in defending the indefensible, that you don't even recognize a baited mousetrap when you see one.

Now you will dance for me.

-F

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The Iraq Survey Group, ISG, whose intelligence analysts are managed by Charles Duelfer, a former State Department official and deputy chief of the U.N.-led arms-inspection teams, has found "hundreds of cases of activities that were prohibited" under U.N. Security Council resolutions, a senior administration official tells Insight.

"There is a long list of charges made by the U.S. that have been confirmed, but none of this seems to mean anything because the weapons that were unaccounted for by the United Nations remain unaccounted for."

Both Duelfer and his predecessor, David Kay, reported to Congress that the evidence they had found on the ground in Iraq showed Saddam's regime was in "material violation" of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, the last of 17 resolutions that promised "serious consequences" if Iraq did not make a complete disclosure of its weapons programs and dismantle them in a verifiable manner.

The United States cited Iraq's refusal to comply with these demands as *one justification for going to war.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Despite the far Left wing web site's claims, not once did Bush knowingly utter anything which he knew catagorically to be false. He could have been wrong, but it's pure opinion ( not fact ) that Bush KNEW in advance things he was saying were false and passing them off as 'true'.

Bush didn't lie per Iraq. Get over it.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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That's an outright lie, and you're a liar just like your hero Bush. Bush KNEW - because he had been told reapeatedly - that when he gave the State of the Union Address in 2003 that he was lying. Time after time, intel officers had removed the claim about Saddam trying to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger, and time after time, Bush and his people kept right on insisting that it was so.

Also, Bush flat-out lied when he claimed that if anyone in HIS Administration had had anything to do with outing Valerie Plame as a covert CIA operative, that they would be fired. That was a lie. Instead of firing Karl Rove, Dickless Cheney, and Scooter Libby, he obfuscated, covered up, dissembled, outright lied, and then pardoned Libby when he was convicted.

He's a liar. And by maintaining your position that he's not, YOU'RE a liar as well.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Given your respective track records alone - and based on that in spite of the fact that I know PN is bonkers, I'd still give his word more credence than yours simply due to the historical fact that he is more likely to be correct in his assessments than you are,

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if anyone is a 'fascists', it's the Democrats, who want Gov't control over private business. Learn your political vocabulary if you plan on using it here, or remove all doubt that you're an utter fool.

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Main Entry:
fas•cism
Pronunciation:
\ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date:
1921
1. a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

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GinoBiffaroni wrote:
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 16:09
Can you imagine, the winner of the next election getting briefed in ( if that actually happens )


" What the fuck!....... you got to be shitting me "

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GinoBiffaroni wrote:
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 16:09
Can you imagine, the winner of the next election getting briefed in ( if that actually happens )


" What the fuck!....... you got to be shitting me "

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
kwickie - Sorry, but that op/ed column by Dr Britt is pattenly[SIC] wrong. Fascism is, as you correctly pointed out, the Gov't control of private business. It's not 'communism', which is out right[SIC] Gov't ownership of commercial industry. That's where the 'STATE' owns and runs the farms, the factories, etc... in Fascism, the private sector " owns " the business, but is strictly controled by the State. The self congradulating[SIC] "characteristics " you offered is[SIC] nothing more than an empty list of charges the Left keeps making agianst[SIC] Bush, but in reality has no basis or foundation what so ever[SIC].

Most nations promte[SIC] themselves in a positive light. Uncheck

The US is the leader in Human Rights recognition. Talk to N.Korea, S.Arabia, Pakistan, China for REAL human rights violations. Fraterntiy pranks in prisons don't equate to 'human rights violations'. Uncheck

There are evil, bad folks in the world. Some of them literally say they want to hurt us. We don't need any scapegoating. Uncheck.

We have an all volunteer military, and it's the most powerful in the world. Most nations in all human history which were prosperous and strong had a strong military. Uncheck.

Like the Human Rights issue, we are light yrs ahead of the rest of the world in the area of 'sexism'. Females are Governors, Sec of State, Mayors, CEOs, Senators, etc....And 1 more male on the USSC won't change any of that. We're no where near a 'sexist' society. Uncheck

We have a free media, and one which is liberally controled. Uncheck.

What would you have us do w/ National Security in a free society, after we've been attacked on a larger scale than anyon else by terrorist ? My days aren't filled w/ fear , and that's thanks in large part to the pragmatic and serious jobs being done by our Gov't. Uncheck.

Unchekc, uncheck, uncheck..... it's a complete wash. The author , or you, who only sees us as 'fascists' because we're not commie. Youwan to see REAL fascism? Wait until Hillary or Hussein Obama become President, and then you'll see the doctors all become contractors for the State. Your lenghty list only shows the severity of your ignorance and misinformation.

You were wrong about Libby and his non pardon, but that's par for the course for your kind, always attempting to change the issue. Bush didn't lie.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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The US is the leader in Human Rights recognition. Talk to N.Korea, S.Arabia, Pakistan, China for REAL human rights violations. Fraterntiy pranks in prisons don't equate to 'human rights violations'. Uncheck

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There are evil, bad folks in the world. Some of them literally say they want to hurt us. We don't need any scapegoating. Uncheck.

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Originally posted by arclight:
Cats and dogs are living with each other. The END TIMES is here!!!

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Ever notice how I never respond to AuroCraptor.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
...that's the most inane, disconnected and nonsensical post I've read here in a very long time.

If that's humor you're attempting, it's very lame.

If you're trying to be serious, it's pretty damn sad.

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We're still in Iraq because it had nothing to do w/ 9/11. Dunno why you try to link the 2, Bush never did.

When folks say they don't like you, want to kill you, and then attack you, you're well with in your rights to go after them. That's all we've done. There's no 'boogyman' out there, just evil Islamic jihadist who want to take down all Western civilization. You seem to have no problem with that. I do.

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Ever notice how I never respond to AuroCraptor.

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We're still in Iraq because it had nothing to do w/ 9/11. Dunno why you try to link the 2, Bush never did.

When folks say they don't like you, want to kill you, and then attack you, you're well with in your rights to go after them. That's all we've done. There's no 'boogyman' out there, just evil Islamic jihadist who want to take down all Western civilization. You seem to have no problem with that. I do.

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Once again, you're lying. And you even contradict yourself in your own mindless ramblings!

Bush "never" tried to link the two? Bullshit. Pure, unadulterated bullshit.

And then YOU try to link them in your very next paragraph, when you say that 'When folks say they don't like you, want to kill you, and then attack you..." See, only Bin Laden did those three things; Iraq never did. They can SAY they don't like us, and they can SAY they want to kill us, but until they actually DO something, they haven't really committed any crime.

Mike

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Since the word "ties" can cover any connection, however weak, Bush was in fact stating the truth.

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Eventually, you're going to have to face the facts, grow up and put away your childish delusions and silly make believe stories which adhere to your petty, faulty, hate filled political positions.

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I feel so small, I can't type at an advanced level nor do I always proof read my posts. I'm an inferior human being, and therefore I must be wrong in my views, huh?

Fine. You win. UR moore intllijant than is me.

Happy now ?

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But why do you make it personal towards me when talking about the fraternity pranks against some dirt bag terrorists? What is it to you ? Clearly, I can't deny crimes in Abu Ghraib were committed. But unlike what happened there under Saddam, we PUNISHED those who committed the crimes. You want to ignore that factoid, don't ya? Hmmm..wonder why.

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Answer this: How many tours of duty did you do in Iraq?

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AURaptor wrote:
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It's clear you're incapable of doing so in an coherent, informed manner. If I were you, and made such idiotic , baseless statments as you, I'd be too cowardly to respond to me either.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Staffer: "They didn't do it."

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“Mayor Giuliani — a former federal prosecutor who won notice for ‘pursuing’ the Mafia — had relatives linked to organized crime, including a mobbed-up cousin who was gunned down by FBI agents in 1977, a new book says. Lewis D’Avanzo, a son of the mayor’s uncle and a guest at Giuliani’s first wedding in 1968, was a ‘ruthless and widely feared mob associate’ who headed a massive stolen car ring, according to FBI documents and interviews detailed in Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, by Village Voice senior editor Wayne Barrett. Due in stores next week, the book sketches a largely unflattering portrait of the clan, depicting his father, Harold, as a hothead and the “muscle” behind a brother-in-law’s loansharking operation, run out of a Brooklyn bar. Along with cracking heads, it says the mayor’s father served time in state prison for a stickup, rarely held an on-the-books job and once was a gunman in a mob shootout in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. According to the book, Giuliani’s cousin Lewis D’Avanzo was known as “Steve the Blond” and listed as armed and dangerous in FBI bulletins. His criminal record included a 10-year federal sentence for the armed hijacking of a truck loaded with $240,000 worth of mercury. The book alleges that he was suspected of taking part in several murders. D’Avanzo was gunned down by the FBI in October 1977, when he tried to run down an agent after being stopped on a warrant that accused him and two associates of transporting 100 stolen luxury cars. Quoting an unnamed friend of D’Avanzo, the book describes a 1962 shootout pitting a local mobster against the mayor’s father and Leo D’Avanzo, Lewis D’Avanzo’s father. The book says Leo was later sanctioned by mob bosses for shooting at a Mafia member. Leo D’Avanzo, who was known in family circles as a black sheep, ran loansharking and gambling operations out of a Brooklyn bar where Giuliani’s father worked as a bartender. In his role as debt collector, his father ‘broke legs, smashed kneecaps, crunched noses.’ Joan Ellen D’Avanzo, a cousin who at one time lived with Giuliani when he was a youngster, became a drug addict who was beaten to death in 1973 at age 34. Her cause of death was listed as undetermined, but several family members said she was murdered.”
—Michael R. Blood, New York Daily News, “Rudy’s Kin Tied to Mob”, July 06, 2000

“The father he celebrated so often was a pathological predator. His extended family harbored a junkie, a crooked cop and a murky mob wing. He dissolved his first marriage with a lie so he could appear Catholic when he remarried. The very personal jewelry his first wife found in her bedroom wasn’t hers….”
—Wayne Barrett, Rudy!: An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Guiliani, “All in the Family: Crooks, Cops and a Junkie” (co-author of City for Sale)

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Since the word "ties" can cover any connection, however weak, Bush was in fact stating the truth.

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And you were the ones who had a problem with Clinton's parsing of words and their meanings...

So it's *technically* correct, and in fact stating the truth, to say that Bush has ties to Hitler and the Third Reich, agreed?

I mean, if you're looking for SOME kind of connection, however weak, you can find it for just about anything.

And maybe you should clarify when you're talking about Al Qaeda and when you're talking about Saddam. You tend to confuse the two, just like Cheney, Bush, and the rest of those right-win nut-job dipshits.

So is it your lack of intelligence that hampers you in your daily life, or your blinkered belief that Bush always has your back. Or does one supercede the other? ;)

Pull your head out of Bush's arse, wipe off your chin (is that drool, or something worse?), and face reality: Bush is a piece of human garbage.

Mike

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You never answered. You sidestepped, hoping no one would notice. I noticed, and I've waited patiently for you to regale us with your tales of the glory days of your military service

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You call them "fraternity pranks", and you ASSUME (making an ass of YOU, not of me) that they're guilty. In some Rethuglican-only-circular-logic circle jerk, you figure only the guilty would be picked up and tortured, so anyone who was tortured is by rights, guilty. So no harm, no foul.

Except that it hasn't played out that way. Some of those who were rounded up and tortured (and some of them even KIDNAPPED from foreign soil under the extraordinary rendition protocols) - anyhow, SOME of them were clearly NOT guilty. So I was asking, how would you like it if it were done to you? Or your family? You wrongly ASSUME that the US never makes mistakes, or that it's simply un-American or hateful to point them out. THAT is what makes you a small-minded little dolt.

Bored now...

Mike

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Staffer: "They didn't do it."

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Well, Vet, I thought it was funny.

Quick poll: How many here believe that Al-Qaeda is not primarily responsible for 9/11?

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A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
--Sir Winston Churchill

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