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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Finn, you're a real gem.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Actually VP's are dime a dozen at Morgan Chase, so it's hardly bragging. But she is a strong, intelligent woman and I'm pleased to say so. I was mostly riffing on the irony that she is in the middle of what I consider some of the most corrupt activity of our society. But if this threatens you or makes you jealous or whatever, well, I guess that's fun too.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Yup, a real gem.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
So, should I feel guilty that my girlfriend is a VP at Morgan-Chase?

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
If you REALLY, have no problem with her success... you need to work on presentation.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Why would it threaten me or make me jealous? I think it’s impressive. I would say that being a VP of a major financial firm is, in fact, a big bragging right.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Why would it threaten me or make me jealous? I think it’s impressive. I would say that being a VP of a major financial firm is, in fact, a big bragging right.

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Ummm, uh, no.
Being a VP of a major financial firm, and still being able to be a functioning human being, so much so that she could snag the Sarge...well, yeah, that's a big bragging right.

Our company just lost a major player, he resigned. Know why? He was tired of being a professional prick. He was high paid, and good at it. He also was no genius.
Being in a well-paying position of some authority ain't no trick- just that most of us wanna keep our souls.
I could go on, but I feel like this point will be lost in the "So you're saying all well paid folk have no souls"-type response.
All I'm sayin' is that you choose where to focus your attention, and the Sarge's girl sounds like she found positive & atypical balance. THAT'S worth bragging about, not the dollars or the authority.

I'l brag about my son, though Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I disagree. Snagging Sarge, as it were, sounds like the least of her qualities. I’m pretty sure it didn’t take a lot of work on her part to do that.

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I think there is something to be said for any person who works hard to become successful in their career and I find it rather disappointing that some of you have such a poor view of success.

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Some people work hard and become successful; others sit around and complain about the success of other people because they’re too lazy to do anything about their own position in life.

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
If you REALLY, have no problem with her success... you need to work on presentation.

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I'll get to work on that right away. Can you recommend a good therapist?

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I disagree. Snagging Sarge, as it were, sounds like the least of her qualities. I’m pretty sure it didn’t take a lot of work on her part to do that.

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That dis seems beneath you, Finn

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Determination is the key, but some are determined to enjoy life, instead of working toward a point where they will have enough money to do so. … I see hundreds of up-close examples of peeps that work hard, make an excellent living, and are unhappy as Hell. Their jobs own them.
Success comes in many forms, not just financial, and I feel badly for those whose measure of a good life is in dollars that they have no time to spend.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That dis seems beneath you, Finn

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
That’s a hippy bullshit cop-out.

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Just because someone is successful doesn’t mean they are unhappy.

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In fact, success more often then not comes with happiness.

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But regardless of your assessment of someone happiness, the fact is that success is usually achieved only through hard work and dedication, which I would argue are admirable qualities.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I don't think there's much beneath him at this point.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
No more than I feel guilty gettin it with a direct descendant of Charlemange, whos more recent ancestors no doubt owned slaves and massacred native americans.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
The last time I saw Finn with a sense of humor was Homemade Australian. He's in a snide and bitter mood these days.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I would argue that Saddam worked hard and with some dedication to be a successful evil dictator.
But was he admirable for it?

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the fact is that success is usually achieved only through hard work and dedication, which I would argue are admirable qualities.

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I'm afraid not, I don't have mental health issues. I'm British, where I come from being different is celebrated not medicated.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Yup, a real gem.

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Yeah, we've already concluded that.

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It's the "You too can be rich!" of an infomercial combined with a social system setup to prevent it by keeping that carrot on a stick always just a little out of reach.

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I would argue that Saddam worked hard and with some dedication to be a successful evil dictator.
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Why not? As far as I’m concerned Saddam Hussein get’s a A+ for effort. It wasn’t his dedication I had a problem with - it was the evil dictator part.

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It took me a long time to see this. --we're all slaves.

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I would argue that Saddam worked hard and with some dedication to be a successful evil dictator.
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Why not? As far as I’m concerned Saddam Hussein get’s a A+ for effort. It wasn’t his dedication I had a problem with - it was the evil dictator part.

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MY POINT FINN (you love to take the wind out of my sails, don't you)is that if a misguided piece of go-se like Saddam can have those qualities, anyone can, pretty much.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
So because Saddam Hussein was a hardworker that means that hardworking is evil? Condemning all hardworkers as evil dictators is pretty harsh.

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Basically you’re comparing serg’s girlfirend or anyone who has enjoyed financial success from their career, to Saddam Hussein.

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Secondly, this stuff about financial success is something you pull out of your ass. No one, but you, has limited success in this discussion to only financial.

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Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with being financially successful.

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And this stuff about people who are financially successful are miserable is more hippy crap. Most people who are financially successful are probably quite happy with that success.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Until the real bill comes due, sure they are.

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So because Saddam Hussein was a hardworker that means that hardworking is evil? Condemning all hardworkers as evil dictators is pretty harsh.

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Yes, that's exactly what I said *Coughstrawman*

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Basically you’re comparing serg’s girlfirend or anyone who has enjoyed financial success from their career, to Saddam Hussein.

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Again, precisely what I meant *Coughstrawmanstrawman*

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m not arguing a strawman, at all. And it is what you said. Whether it is what you meant, I don’t know, but it is what you said. Now I think it is what you meant. I think deep down, you really think that people who are financially successful are no better, in your mind, then Saddam Hussein.

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And it is insulting when you start throwing around Saddam Hussein as a comparison to those of us whose hard-work and dedication has paid off financially.

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there is no doubt that it is much easier to be happy if you have money - that’s pretty much a fact.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Just sayin' that workin' hard & dedication ain't no big thang- everybody does it on some level- .

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Anyway I doesn't seem like we’re talking about the same thing.

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