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Bighorn County boots the Feds!

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 21:00
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Monday, March 31, 2008 10:58 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Hooray for the Tenth Amendment.

County Sheriff Can Bust Big Bro

http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=
view&id=439&Itemid=36


I know it doesn't sound like much, but read it and wrap your mind around the concept a little, and you will realize this is a pretty big win, although a quiet one, for putting a lockdown on federal abuses.

-F

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Monday, March 31, 2008 11:16 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quick update on this, apparently there is precedent.

We held in New York that Congress cannot compel the States to enact or enforce a federal regulatory program. Today we hold that Congress cannot circumvent that prohibition by conscripting the State's officers directly. The Federal Government may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command the States' officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. It matters not whether policymaking is involved, and no case by case weighing of the burdens or benefits is necessary; such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty. Accordingly, the judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit is reversed.

From
Printz v. United States (95-1478), 521 U.S. 898 (1997)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/95-1478.ZO.html

*Bonus, obviously the Justices in question bothered to actually read the Federalist Papers, and refer to their interpretations of Constitutional Meaning within the decision.

-F

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Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:08 AM

FLATTOP


It's good to get up early in the morning & find such news!


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Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:09 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Makes me feel warm all over. If they didn't have so much land dedicated to mysterious military activities, I'd move to Wyoming.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:49 AM

ASIANSOLO


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Makes me feel warm all over. If they didn't have so much land dedicated to mysterious military activities, I'd move to Wyoming.

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What mysterious military activities in Wyoming ? Do you mean mysterious "MILITIA" activities. That would be more correct.Since Idaho is becoming over crowded with militias, they have to move somewhere.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 6:44 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Asiansolo:
What mysterious military activities in Wyoming ? Do you mean mysterious "MILITIA" activities. That would be more correct.Since Idaho is becoming over crowded with militias, they have to move somewhere.

No, it was military. I was looking at a map of Wyoming once and saw large tracts of land labeled "experimental" and "military." But I can't seem to find that on the internet. Maybe there is a very innocuous explanation for it, but I just remember that I didn't really want to live near military experiments.

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Monday, April 7, 2008 12:55 PM

ASIANSOLO


Why not live near military experiments, just look at all the cool stuff you'll see or find in your back yard. Like alien tech or a alien(space type).
You'll see black helio's, men in black, the fun never stops.

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Monday, April 7, 2008 5:34 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Unexpected sonic booms are less than fun, however.

Besides, too many people get the creepies when they think about it - I mean, you ever read Stephen Kings "The Stand" ?

Not too far fetched, especially these days, I sure hell wouldn't wanna be anywhere nearby when one of their pet bugs gets loose, by accident or design - although that's actually MORE likely to happen in western Maryland for reasons I'd rather not disclose.

-F
*I dunno what the hell they CALL it, but that new superplane of theirs makes a gawdawful boom, worse than usual, but not all the time, strangely, guess they're still workin the kinks out.

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Monday, April 7, 2008 5:53 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:

No, it was military. I was looking at a map of Wyoming once and saw large tracts of land labeled "experimental" and "military." But I can't seem to find that on the internet. Maybe there is a very innocuous explanation for it, but I just remember that I didn't really want to live near military experiments.



There's an AF Base near Great Falls where trans-atmospheric spacecraft may land...It's probably less in the area of 'experimental' and more in the domain of 'operational'.

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Monday, April 7, 2008 6:15 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Me now, I am wondering HOW they might have damped the sonic boom from an aircraft obviously travelling fast enough to produce one - possibly something out of the (Declassified, mind you) Project Winterhaven bag of tricks, maybe.

That's a right nice touch towards not only stealth applications, but even just general non-annoyance of the public near the airfield.

We really do need something to replace the shuttle for low earth orbit applications, sure - but I would really be more for a push into actual applied research of deep space operations and craft out by the L4/L5 point, with a craft that doesn't NEED to enter gravity wells or atmosphere, serviced by the single stage to orbit and return craft we'd replace the shuttle with.

Call it deep space drivers ed, if you will.

-F

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Monday, April 7, 2008 6:48 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Me now, I am wondering HOW they might have damped the sonic boom from an aircraft obviously travelling fast enough to produce one - possibly something out of the (Declassified, mind you) Project Winterhaven bag of tricks, maybe.

That's a right nice touch towards not only stealth applications, but even just general non-annoyance of the public near the airfield.

We really do need something to replace the shuttle for low earth orbit applications, sure - but I would really be more for a push into actual applied research of deep space operations and craft out by the L4/L5 point, with a craft that doesn't NEED to enter gravity wells or atmosphere, serviced by the single stage to orbit and return craft we'd replace the shuttle with.

Call it deep space drivers ed, if you will.

-F



Easiest way to dump the sonic booms is to go subsonic at sufficient altitude for the boom to dissipate before it reaches the surface...

But keep in mind that the approach vectors are planned for minimal impact of the sonic footprint anyway...

The Wasatch range ia a likely entry corridor over Utah , surrounded as it is by 'military reservations'...There's are also likely entry corridors over sparsely populated regions of the Alvord desert in southeastern Oregon , and the Black Rock desert in NW Nevada...

There's a huge part of central Nevada that could accomodate approaches from the South...(And the margins of the sectional aero charts are marked with notices that spacecraft are being recovered in the area , with the additional caveat that said spacecraft may or may not be chased by tactical fighter aircraft...)

Apart from that , there has been research into vehicle shapes to reduce sonic signatures...Perhaps not coincidentally , certain of the shapes are much like the ones developed for NASA/USAF lifting-body spacecraft during the 60's and 70's...

Unfortunately , there won't be a SSTO as Shuttle replacement , and the Constellation programs' 'Big Stick' is in deep hooey , just like everything else planned by NASA to 'replace' the Shuttle...

The smartest move would have been to maintain as much Shuttle program infrastructure as possible , and go to the unmanned 'Shuttle-C' or its uprated variants for heavy-lift to LEO...Instead , we have the 'Shuttle-C' engineering test articles rusting in scrapyards in Huntsville for many years now...A lot of engineers also favored an uprated Shuttle-derived replacement that would have been available much sooner than Constellation , and some of the proposals are still extant on the Internet under the name
" DIRECT ".

But , the baby goes out with the bathwater once more...

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Tuesday, April 8, 2008 9:00 PM

ASIANSOLO


Besides, too many people get the creepies when they think about it - I mean, you ever read Stephen Kings "The Stand" ?

I once worked for the military at a place in Northern California that looked like the beging of the Stand. Talk about strange things going on.


























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