Has News Always Been This Bad? by AnthonyT

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Much worse before, and many didn't even know it.
Fox News Channel really helped balance things out, and free access to information via the internet also helped clarify.

Phfffftt! heh, excellent example of your keen critical analysis. Helps explain all of your posts. So you like your news "thoroughly un-fact checked and biased" then, bravo!

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 1:49 AM

Has News Always Been This Bad?

The answer is for most of America's history its been worse. Fear not, things will improve, they always do.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 3:50 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Much worse before, and many didn't even know it.
Fox News Channel really helped balance things out, and free access to information via the internet also helped clarify.
Phfffftt! heh, excellent example of your keen critical analysis. Helps explain all of your posts. So you like your news "thoroughly un-fact checked and biased" then, bravo!

Please provide cites which back up your assertion that news reported on Fox is "thoroughly un-fact checked and biased", thank-you.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:08 AM

ERIC

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Please provide cites which back up your assertion that news reported on Fox is "thoroughly un-fact checked and biased", thank-you.

How about flat out lies?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002

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Fox News airs altered photos of NY Times reporters
During a segment in which Fox & Friends co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade labeled New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg and editor Steven Reddicliffe "attack dogs," Fox News featured photos of Steinberg and Reddicliffe that appeared to have been digitally altered -- the journalists' teeth had been yellowed, their facial features exaggerated, and portions of Reddicliffe's hair moved further back on his head.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Please provide cites which back up your assertion that news reported on Fox is "thoroughly un-fact checked and biased", thank-you.

Liberals, pseudo-intellectuals and the like love to belittle Fox News. It's the same type of smug condescending attitude as when Obama made his speech to left-coast libs and said that working-class folks in small towns "cling to their guns and their bibles." He might as well have added Fox News to that false caricature of average Americans.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:13 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Well, they also digitally imposed one guy's head on the body of a dog. I don't know what kind of show this can possibly be, other than farce/comedy.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:16 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I actually don't see anything wrong with clinging to guns and bibles during tough times. You can rely on one to make you feel safe and the other to give you hope for a better tomorrow. Best part is, they are interchangeable in that regard.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:27 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I actually don't see anything wrong with clinging to guns and bibles during tough times. You can rely on one to make you feel safe and the other to give you hope for a better tomorrow. Best part is, they are interchangeable in that regard.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

Were you offended by that statement from Obama? I'm sure he didn't mean any harm by it; its just that Liberals like him just think they're smarter and better than everybody else. They can't help themsleves. They think people that value American traditions and that are proud of our history are mentally defective trogladytes. They're the "enlightened ones"; the rest of us are beer-swilling, car-race-loving rednecks who need to learn from their wisdom. That's why they've shoved political correctness down our throats, mandated forced school busing to integrate, turned smokers into societal lepers, and countless other examples of how the Dudley-Dooright Left is re-shaping our culture.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:32 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I apologize if I derailed this into political bashing territory, when I really meant to study the state of the news media.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:43 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/07/09/green.uk.coast.erosi
on.itn.itn

Here is an example of what I consider to be hyperbole.

The reporter states that this woman's house is not worth the price of a loaf of bread. I admit this could be some kind of British metaphor, well known in Britain.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 5:46 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/07/08/ng.slain.student.cnn

Hello,

I was watching this video feed from CNN, and something rubbed me the wrong way. It's come up before, but it feels like it's becoming more and more prevalent.

I feel that when I was a young person, you had news shows which reported the news, and editorial shows which gave opinions on the news.

Now it seems as though all news shows also editorialize the news. I don't like to see my news reporters getting loud and excited and pointing out obvious personal opinions. Waving your hands in the air and saying, "Right There! Right There," in the middle of a news story strikes me as poor news delivery.

I want my reporters to deliver the news, not interpret the news or give opinions on the news, unless I'm looking at a special editorial segment or show.

Has news always been this bad, or is it getting worse?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

Fekkin A right....

Don't watch the news man. Read some stuff in the paper or on the net, but dont' watch the news. Those assholes get paid way to much to depress the shit out of Americans.

Happy shit doesn't sell.... bottom line. If you watch news, particularly cable news, you're not going to like what you see. It's like Jerry Springer for a (supposedly) more sophisticated crowd.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:06 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Please provide cites which back up your assertion that news reported on Fox is "thoroughly un-fact checked and biased", thank-you.

Certainly:
FOX News Lies About Barack Obama's Voting Record

FOX's O'Reilly fabricated evidence of success of purported boycott
http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020006

The Most Biased Name in News
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067

Out of curiosity, why do you never ask for cites to back up the assertion (that never gets backed up) that Fox News is Fair and Balanced, or that the rest of the US media is 'librul'?

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:09 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Out of curiosity, why do you never ask for cites to back up the assertion (that never gets backed up) that Fox News is Fair and Balanced, or that the rest of the US media is 'librul'?

All American news is horseshit. I can only imagine the same could be said for you there in Benny Hill land.

Whatever news you choose to believe is nothing more or nothing less than a reflection on your character.

Any idiot can find a news source that speaks to them....

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:21 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All American news is horseshit.

I don't often read the US papers, but the Televised news certainly.

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I can only imagine the same could be said for you there in Benny Hill land.

Have you seen any?

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:40 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
I don't often read the US papers, but the Televised news certainly.

Read what I said in the other thread about news, particularly cable news which is likely what you see more of. It's all about money and misery and sex sells. It's Jerry Springer for a (supposedly) more sophisticated crowd. Good for you.... you're seeing the absolute worst of America on a daily basis with a little good stuff sprinkled in to give an "un-biased" report. And I dont' care if you're watching "serious" Fox or CNN or even John Stewart....

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Have you seen any?

I've seen somewhere between nil and none. Why should I think that your Government or Media is run any different than mine is?

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Read what I said in the other thread about news, particularly cable news which is likely what you see more of. It's all about money and misery and sex sells. It's Jerry Springer for a (supposedly) more sophisticated crowd. Good for you.... you're seeing the absolute worst of America on a daily basis with a little good stuff sprinkled in to give an "un-biased" report. And I dont' care if you're watching "serious" Fox or CNN or even John Stewart....

Naw, I was agreeing it was crap six.

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I've seen somewhere between nil and none. Why should I think that your Government or Media is run any different than mine is?

Well, because it is. But more specifically, how do you know, if you don't try? That's a bit close minded eh

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:55 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by citizen:
Out of curiosity, why do you never ask for cites to back up the assertion (that never gets backed up) that Fox News is Fair and Balanced, or that the rest of the US media is 'librul'?

Just wanted some clarification. What news service doesn't editorialize? There is a difference between reporting the news and presenting the news. If Fox news said the sun rises in the east would they be wrong because they are Fox news?

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:10 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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If Fox news said the sun rises in the east would they be wrong because they are Fox news?
No but they would probably report it as, " In our latest victory in the war in Iraq, and a complete defeat to al-Quida, The Pentagon today followed President Bush's command and ordered the Sun to rise in the East. This will make it easier to capture Osama ben Laden, and provide better Homeland Security against terrorist attacks by the powers of Darkness. "

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 7:47 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
What news service doesn't editorialize?

Don't think I've ever seen editorialising from the BBC.

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There is a difference between reporting the news and presenting the news.

There's a difference between telling the truth, and lying too.

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If Fox news said the sun rises in the east would they be wrong because they are Fox news?

No, but if Fox News said the sky is blue, I'd urge you to go outside and check for yourself.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:12 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Well, because it is. But more specifically, how do you know, if you don't try? That's a bit close minded eh .

That sounds a lot like when parents are telling a kid they have to behave a certain way or do something for no other reason than because I told you so.....

You wouldn't in a million years convince me that your Government and Media were any different than ours. Just a different spin.....

I still say it's a toss up between the Jews and the English who is really controlling the world through media.

Do me a favor and never talk about my nationalism and patriotism again since you seem to think that your Government and Media run on a moraly/spiritually/integrity superior plane to the US version of indoctrination.

Truthfully... when you speak like that Cit, you sound no different than anyone who watches Fox News religiously and preaches O'Reilly. What makes your country so special? What makes your Government and Media above it?

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:13 AM

KWICKO

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If Fox news said the sun rises in the east would they be wrong because they are Fox news?

Well, yes, because they would never, ever say that. They only believe the sun rises and sets out of Li'l Bushie's ass.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That sounds a lot like when parents are telling a kid they have to behave a certain way or do something for no other reason than because I told you so.....

Then you need to read what I wrote, because what I wrote sounds nothing like that.

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You wouldn't in a million years convince me that your Government and Media were any different than ours. Just a different spin.....

This is somehow supposed to refute what I said about closed minded is it?

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I still say it's a toss up between the Jews and the English who is really controlling the world through media.

That's 'who are' and it's actually the Commie-Nazi-American-Jews.

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Do me a favor and never talk about my nationalism and patriotism again since you seem to think that your Government and Media run on a moraly/spiritually/integrity superior plane to the US version of indoctrination.

When you start spouting nationalist idiocy you get extra funny. Because the BBC is a better source than any American televised news I'm a nationalist? Most American's who are intelligent and open enough to actually educate themselves on the subject agree with what I said, it's not nationalism, its reality. There's a big difference between saying the BBC is a generally unbiased news source, and your 24-7 "GO USA, DOWN WITH FORIEGNERS!" diatribe. So do me a favour and stop throwing a tempertantrum when your nationalism is questioned.

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Truthfully... when you speak like that Cit, you sound no different than anyone who watches Fox News religiously and preaches O'Reilly. What makes your country so special? What makes your Government and Media above it?

I didn't say it was. In fact THIS above sounds more like those that religiously watch Fox, since you find the suggestion you actually educate yourself as so incredibly insulting.

Here's what I said for the very very cheap seats:
Rather than assume it's bad, go watch it and find out. Maybe it is, maybe you'll find out it isn't. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, all I said is try educating yourself, rather than keeping an arrogantly closed mind. I'm sorry the idea that you should find out for yourself, rather than assuming you already know it all is so insulting, but I have very little time for your ignorant arrogance, so I really don't care.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 9:13 AM

MIIKE

contolling the world through media? i really dont think people can be controlled through the things they watch as most people weigh up what they are being told by the media in their own minds .most people who pick a nework for news because they like the presenters be it housewife fancies anchorman or a guy likes the weather girl.also others choose a network because the news will reflect their own views(preaching to the converted ). finally the bbc is no bastion of independent news as its staff have a very left wing bias which is reflected in its portrayal of the news.

im just going out,i may be some time

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 9:31 AM

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It's infotainment.

Agreed. Check out Neil Postman's book Amusing Ourselves to Death. Great analysis of the effects of television, and televised news in particular.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:52 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Much worse before, and many didn't even know it.
Fox News Channel really helped balance things out, and free access to information via the internet also helped clarify.

Wow, such animosity by liberals towards the free flow of information, which torpedoes most of their hokum theories.
Most with their eyes open knew that free access to info via internet would be the death knell of looney liberalism, but most liberals had such tunnel vision that they did not see it coming, welcomed free info access, and were bewildered that the more info available, the less tenable their assumptions, all the open info dashed their fantasies and delusions which were the foundations of liberalism.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by miike:
contolling the world through media? i really dont think people can be controlled through the things they watch as most people weigh up what they are being told by the media in their own minds

Of course you are correct. Every business in world history has been completely idiotic to advertize, pay for advertisement, and think it might increase their customer volume. Who could possibly think that mere images broadcast could alter a viewers perspective.
Should I assume you have bought your wife a diamond, the proof of the biggest scam using media to control the world view? Wonder why such a wise person would buy a worthless bauble as a diamond for an exhorbitant price.

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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Wow, such animosity by liberals towards the free flow of information, which torpedoes most of their hokum theories.
Most with their eyes open knew that free access to info via internet would be the death knell of looney liberalism, but most liberals had such tunnel vision that they did not see it coming, welcomed free info access, and were bewildered that the more info available, the less tenable their assumptions, all the open info dashed their fantasies and delusions which were the foundations of liberalism.

Wow, such animosity from the authoritarian far right fringe, who hate the unbiased reporting of data, and embrace only crazy conspiracy websites because they say the lies they want to hear.
Most with their eyes open thought that the free access to information via the internet would be the death knell of bigotted unthinking far right lunatic neo-conism, and welcomed free info access, but were bewildered when the bigotted evil perpetuated itself and it's followers continued to show their poor grasp of reality by ignoring all but the evil that made them feel good about their arrogant ignorance. Despite anyone with a brain now having access to the truth that destroys the foundations of lies, hypocrisy, murder and evil that is the underpinning neo-conism, these crazies still march in lock step, denying thought, human decency and rationality, while delighting in the murder and rape of other people.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:04 AM

yada yada Cit...

Enough with the idle chatter.

Bottom line: I don't trust any news source here or overseas.

There are a lot influential people who have subtle influences on what news gets out and what spin is put on it. I'm not saying it's all lies. I'm not even saying a majority of it is lies. It's most likely true that a majority of 99 and an infinite stream of decimals % of what we see that is true.

It's just that .0111656781688% and whatever else we'll never be privy to that I'm interested in.

I'm not being nationalistic here. I never once said that my countries news outlets had more integrity. In fact, I never once mentioned a positive note about them. I'm just wondering why, other than "Because I said so" you feel that your media outlets are morally superior to any of the "Jerry Springer for Adults" 24/7 news networks over here.

Maybe you should have an open mind and realize that the BBC is just another propoganda machine. Whether it's more benovolent or sophisticated than CNN, MSNBC or FOX is not within the scope of my point here, and I wouldn't feel comfortable even commenting on those opinions because, other than my own personal ideals, I don't have complete data with which to make such a judgement.

None of us really do...

P.S. Lay off the spelling man. The troll outfit doesn't suit you. Besides, nobody is paying me to be editor for my meanderings...

And I know I said "countries" when I should have said "country's" but I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of changing it.....

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:26 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Maybe you should have an open mind and realize that the BBC is just another propoganda machine. Whether it's more benovolent or sophisticated than CNN, MSNBC or FOX is not within the scope of my point here, and I wouldn't feel comfortable even commenting on those opinions because, other than my own personal ideals, I don't have complete data with which to make such a judgement.

I'm not the one making judgements on zero data. That's closed minded. What I said to you is before you make up your mind, actually go out and educate yourself on the topic, I'm sorry the suggestion that you actually know what you're talking about before you spout off is insulting to you. My mind, as I have demonstrated time and again, is quite open enough. As long as people present a case, rather than saying "All media outlets are bad, because I say so, and I know the same is true of all of them even if I haven't seen them." I'm willing to listen. The only person saying "because I say so" is you jack. I made a joke, but seriously said "find out for yourself before making a decision". Since then you've picked at the joke as if I was being serious, and ignored the whole "go find out for yourself" thing entirely. So you tell me, as a self professed Anarchist/Libertarian/Whateverthehellyouarethisweekian, why are you so unwilling to find out for yourself? Or has prisonplanet already told you what to believe Jack? Because you've so far just managed to throw a massive wobbly because I suggested you find out for yourself, sorry if the suggestion that you don't know everything already is upsetting to you, but you really don't. All you're doing is confirming my charge of closed mindedness, saying "I'm rubber you're glue" doesn't refute that, not being closed minded and testing your assumptions would.

How about, before you tell me I'm making statements like "because I say it is", you put your money where your mouth is, and back up your charge that all outlets are the same propaganda filled lie factories? Or am I supposed to just take that on face value because you say so?

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P.S. Lay off the spelling man. The troll outfit doesn't suit you. Besides, nobody is paying me to be editor for my meanderings...

And I know I said "countries" when I should have said "country's" but I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of changing it.....

I didn't attack your spelling, so lay off the lies.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:36 AM

blah blah again Cit.

I know you're too smart to believe what you hear on cable news or the BBC. Just admit it.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:51 AM

Blah blah blah Six.

I'd like to think you weren't so closed minded that you'd listen to a word someone other than you said, but evidently not.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:30 AM

MIIKE

i only listen to alex jones and infowars.com they speak the truth with a balanced and fair insight and the quality of the journalism is highly proffesional. with a cool and calm persona alex is the only man ill take my news from thats why ive got a mountain of tinned food 100 gallons of botteled water and a shotgun ready for jesus's return

im just going out,i may be some time

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24 AM

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MIIKE, dunno how long you've been lurking, but thing is... I do a lot of dirt diggin myself, and not for the soft-kill, but hard evidence, courtroom quality stuff, right ?

What scares the piss out of me about crazies like PirateNews, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense and the like isn't the fact that I consider them both bonkers and a bit dim for taking what amounts to a whole bunch of individual, petty conspiracies by ambitious and greedy dickheads as one great, grand, all-encompassing conspiracy, nope.

Ain't even that they're short on facts, evidence, long on rumor and have a habit of drawing some strange conclusions or associations from what they do have, nope.

It's the fact that, on some of these topics, *I* have more info, of higher quality, than they do, but usually don't discuss it much because some of it is SO freakin woo-woo weird that it defies belief so strongly an automatic rejection of the "no such thing" concept kicks in no matter WHAT the qualify and significance of your info is, won't no one believe it cause they *can't* believe it, to even try would psychologically wreck them.

What scares me about the "Crazies" is in fact just how MUCH of the shit they go on about is indeed rooted in factual information, and while there's this perception of craziness against them, why is it that "mainstream" media, after feeding us endless blatant lies and pathetically obvious fictions, do not get this label in spite of their information being every bit as ridiculous and even less true ?

In the past couple years, the "Crazies" have been more accurate than the mainstream press.

And dude, THAT scares the shit out of me.

Besides, let's talk crazy for a moment, some of those "Conspiracy Theories" that folks were all so dismissive about as mere fiction, that turned out to be anything but.

Abuse in the Catholic Church.
Snuff Films.
Organ Harvesting/Smuggling.
Franklins "Finders" and Child Abduction/Abuse.
COINTELPRO.

All once dismissed out of hand as "conspiracy Theories" - now all proven fact with indisputable evidence, and as often as not outright admissions of guilt by the parties in question.

There's also folks PLAYING on that mental blind spot these days, child exploiters *deliberately* throwing in bogus satanic trappings, in order to provoke the "no such thing" mental reaction to any victim testimony to render it ineffective, which it does, even if they're caught in the act, even if said trappings are entered into evidence, the mental rigidity of the "no such thing" effect is such that by forcing a witness or victim on the stand and mocking them, it's a get out of jail free card for predators, guaranteed.

As you can imagine, I am pretty pissed about that.

Anyways, think twice, long and hard, before you dismiss the "Crazies" out of hand, they're crazy, sure, and fulla shit on many on occasion, just as the mainstream press is....

But sometimes....

They're telling you the truth.

And THAT, buddy, is what frightens me.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:03 PM

WALKERHOUND

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Don't think I've ever seen editorialising from the BBC.

Really? Hummmm maybe your watching a deferent government funded new’s/opinion outlet than I am.

Off course the thing is whether something seams biased to somebody has as much to do with how much thay agree with it as anything else.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:22 PM

KHYRON

The news agencies aren't just bad or incompetent, they're plain corrupt.

Case in point: this last week was filled with enough McCain material to seriously damage his presidential hopes. Had Obama said any of these things, the MSM would've been playing it on a loop, but McCain's still getting a free ride.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-bergmann/the-week-that-should-have_b
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Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:53 PM

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Originally posted by walkerhound:
Really? Hummmm maybe your watching a deferent government funded new’s/opinion outlet than I am.

Off course the thing is whether something seams biased to somebody has as much to do with how much thay agree with it as anything else.

You've seen the BBC offer it's opinion on the news rather than just reporting it? No I've never seen that, I can discern opinion from fact even when I agree with the opinion, so I'd expect to pick up on it at least part of the time, have you an example?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:48 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Rusty "Rush" Limbaugh got another $400-million pay raise (in addition to his $270-million salary), and Shaun Vanity got another $250-million. So their "ad libbed" opinions are verbatim direct orders from the White House talking point checklist. Fox has been owned by Communist china since 1999, when Rupert Murdoch married Deng Wen Di, aka Wendi Deng.

Lou Dobbs is having a stroke every day on the illegal alien invasion and outsourcing US jobs, but he tows the party line on most everything else.

MSNBC and CSPAN are banned in Knoxville TN by Comcast ATT, so I don't know what they do anymore. Except Olbermann calls Bush a fascist Nazi, so I've heard. But that's just reporting a fact.

http://piratenews.org/fox-news-owned-by-communist-china.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng
Hanoi Hannity: "I voted for the Sino-American Alliance."
"US ports owned by Commie China is good for me."
"Dead and disabled US soldiers are good for me."
"Outsourcing your job is very good for me."
"Sir Rupert dines with Hillary every week."
"Ron Paul does not exist in my 'Verse."
"Vote for Billary not McCain."

"As far as Chinese goes, I resented it."
-Adam Tudyk, The Making of Firefly

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Friday, July 11, 2008 2:46 AM

Your love of BBC is nothing different than somebody else's love here for FOX news. That's what speaks to you. If that's the truth you believe, who am I to tell you otherwise.

Personally, I prefer the Spanish news outlets. Damn those girls are FINE... I just wish I understood what they were saying. I'd probably believe all of it while staring into the massive cleavage they ALWAYS show off....

Oh... and I found Melissa while I was looking for a sample of what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure I'd buy all French news she was delivering too.

Funny how time passes differently depending on what it is you're doing. I could work a 12 hour shift that feels like two days, yet I could get lost in her eyes for hours and they'd pass like seconds.

I don't know what she's saying here, but whatever it is, it sounds like the absolute truth to me.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, July 11, 2008 2:52 AM

MIIKE

yeah i know you cant lump all the theories into one doing so gives the mainsteam media a way of dissmissing facts which are publically available.i mean when there are valid questions about a topic say the public being moniterd by gouvernment the mainsteam news usually gets a wacko in like david icke in to talk about it thus diminishing the plausability of the original stories. this i believe is the way that information is controlled by letting people have the info but only letting the most intellectually deviod source's publically presenting the facts which are then usally bent in such a way to promote thus sources bias. i personally find alex jones a very frightening individual with his talk of war against the gouvernment but i also find fox news eqaully scary with its bending of facts and sometimes total lies

im just going out,i may be some time

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Friday, July 11, 2008 2:58 AM

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Personally, I prefer the Spanish news outlets. Damn those girls are FINE... I just wish I understood what they were saying.

You've never said anything more brilliant! I don't speak Spanish, but my TV is usually on all weekend tuned into them.....the weekend shows are almost non-stop girls in bikinis dancing & gyrating around the pool to mariachi bands...what is better in life?

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Friday, July 11, 2008 3:17 AM