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Interesting Ruling In France Today

POSTED BY: JONGSSTRAW
UPDATED: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:11
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Friday, July 11, 2008 10:15 AM

JONGSSTRAW




Don't have a link handy, but it's on the internet news...France has denied citizenship to a Muslim woman today because they consider her to be "too submissive". Although she's married to a French citizen, the fact that she tools around in a full burqua with only her eyes showing apparently disqualifies her to be a citizen. France says it does not adhere to their equal rights beliefs. I'd say, it's time to pay up your delinquent car fire insurance mon amis! What do you think?


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Friday, July 11, 2008 10:30 AM

MIIKE


i find a lot of french to harbour racist views . this is to pander to the public fear of islam by denying a woman the right to be with her husband i mean a couple of years ago le penn a right wing facist almost got into power only by the majourity of right thinking individuals turning out last minute averted france having a facist gouvernment.

im just going out,i may be some time

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Friday, July 11, 2008 10:57 AM

CITIZEN


The French treat anyone who isn't French born like shit. Then wonder why there's huge riots.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Friday, July 11, 2008 2:29 PM

RIVERLOVE


Isn't France the country that considers America to be un-civilized? Don't the French people think they're more enlightened than Americans? In America this woman could become a citizen, just like millions of her friends. I love the smell of Citroens burning in the morning.

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Friday, July 11, 2008 3:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So how does this square with the notion of the French being cut-and-runners? Being too afraid of losing their oil, or kowtowing to the ME just because they're too chicken to stand up to jihadism?

Maybe Geezer, Rapo, Hero, Finn, or Wulf could explain.

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Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:20 AM

RIVERLOVE


I don't think denying citizenship because a woman wears a burqua actually counts as fighting Jihad terrorists. It is a very risky move though. Ruling that a Muslim woman is too submissive because of how she dresses may become a slippery slope for them. There was a controversy about Muslims wearing headscarves in school too. Seems like the French will engage fighting the fashion war, but not any shooting back war.

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Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:01 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
So how does this square with the notion of the French being cut-and-runners? Being too afraid of losing their oil, or kowtowing to the ME just because they're too chicken to stand up to jihadism?

Maybe Geezer, Rapo, Hero, Finn, or Wulf could explain.

One of these days you might actually try reading something I say instead of throwing me into the stereotype bag. I have never said the French were “cut-and-runners.” Many people don’t understand the French, just like many don’t understand Americans and so they choose prejudice and hate in lieu of that understanding. As far as French Cut-and-runism is concerned it is a product of the same kind of thing that makes Americans Cut-and-Runners. Just as so many Americans, largely Liberals and Isolationists, would prefer to cut and run from Iraq and other venues when the situation doesn’t immediately turn out unreasonably simple, so much of the French feel the same way. This isn’t cowardice as much as it is Western disinterest. It’s what I call the Western Coffee-shop attitude. One images many Americans and French sitting around in the rich Western Coffee shops patting themselves on the back for being so god-damned anti-war, while the rest of the world burns under tyrants. The French, like American liberals and isolationists, are not cut-and-runners, when faced with something they believe is in their interests to fight for they will fight for it. The problem is that they just don’t care enough about anything that isn’t French to fight for it - and that’s the same attitude that many American have.

The French, like the Americans, are very much interested with terrorism on their soil. And in some way the French are far more on top of this kind of thing then the Americans. The French legal attitudes towards terrorists on French soil make the Patriot Act look like a visit to Disney Land. And this is something that goes back a long time in France. The American Patriot Act is an attempt to play catch-up to what France and many other European countries have been doing for a long time.

As far as this particular incident with the Muslim woman, I don’t know anything about it. But it sounds to me more like the Feminist extremist attitude more then anything concerning national security.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:02 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL



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Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
I don't think denying citizenship because a woman wears a burqua actually counts as fighting Jihad terrorists. It is a very risky move though. Ruling that a Muslim woman is too submissive because of how she dresses may become a slippery slope for them. There was a controversy about Muslims wearing headscarves in school too. Seems like the French will engage fighting the fashion war, but not any shooting back war.


The French are probably hoping against odds that the Fashion War might be the one kind of War they have any chance of winning. When we see them all wearing berets around like it's normal,we'll know they have also surrendered there as well.....errr, what? guess they already did...

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Monday, July 14, 2008 10:48 AM

MIIKE


french fashion war only allowed to wear denim

im just going out,i may be some time

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Monday, July 14, 2008 11:11 AM

PIRATECAT


I don't speak french. I am so embarrassed as an american. What does it matter their are so many muslims over there. I've been to France a couple of times its over rated. I would think that there is more to it.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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