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First trailer for George W. Bush biopic!

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:05 AM

CREVANREAVER


Oliver Stone is known for not caring about historical accuracy, so don't take it as a serious biopic (I don't). But it still looks interesting.


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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I bet it's like "She's All That" but with President's and recordifiers and stuff.



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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:06 AM

SERGEANTX


I'd be more interested if it was a sing-along-blog.

And Joss Whedon directed...

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:28 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I can't tell if it's supposed to be a comedy or a tragedy.



Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:30 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


the last scene in the trailer,

anyone else find themselves yelling " Run Forrest Run"

act like a Bush dammit, and grow some berries



Lets party like its 1939

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:01 PM

SCATHAC


Young George W. looks like a trashy, lascivious hooligan. I'm surprised that I don't like him more.

"The world is a mess. I just need to rule it."

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Did anybody else notice that Bush is Mikey's brother on Goonies?

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:07 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Oh Ollie, Ollie, Ollie!
There you go again making stuff up to satisfy your many inner personal demons. Gee Oliver...did Lyndon Johnson REALLY sign on board with Kennedy assassination conspirators just because they said he would get the nomination for President? DID he REALLY say " I'll give you your damn war, now just get me elected."...OR is that something you just threw into your movie because you wanted to blame LBJ for your poor decision to enlist for Viet Nam. And if those lies upset his wife, family, and friends, and showed the whole world that America's really just a banana republic, so much the better, right? At least you had the minor decency to wait until he was dead as you also did for Nixon. Boy, W. must really drive you nuts, like a lot of folks here at FFF. But at least here most folks, even hard-core ideologues, respect the truth. And by the way Mr. Stone, who wrote this piece of garbage? Did your great friend and hero Castro help any? After all, as you said, he's one of the wisest men on Earth, and you look to him for inspiration.

Oh, and finally, Mr. Stone...did you have a good supply of your favorite marijuana on hand during the making of W? We all know it's a big part of your lifestyle, as you seem to get arrested by the police regularly. Everybody knows that smoking pot makes for better storytelling!

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Oh Ollie, Ollie, Ollie!
There you go again making stuff up to satisfy your many inner personal demons. Gee Oliver...did Lyndon Johnson REALLY sign on board with Kennedy assassination conspirators just because they said he would get the nomination for President? DID he REALLY say " I'll give you your damn war, now just get me elected."...OR is that something you just threw into your movie because you wanted to blame LBJ for your poor decision to enlist for Viet Nam. And if those lies upset his wife, family, and friends, and showed the whole world that America's really just a banana republic, so much the better, right? At least you had the minor decency to wait until he was dead as you also did for Nixon. Boy, W. must really drive you nuts, like a lot of folks here at FFF. But at least here most folks, even hard-core ideologues, respect the truth. And by the way Mr. Stone, who wrote this piece of garbage? Did your great friend and hero Castro help any? After all, as you said, he's one of the wisest men on Earth, and you look to him for inspiration.




Agreed...

I absolutely loathe the man on every possible level, but I believe this trash as much as I believe the WACO story as told by CBS or NBC or whatever back in the day.

They get a story everybody knows SOMETHING about and fill it in with a bunch of drama written by the people who brought you CSI and American Idol.

I usually give things 50/50, but I'm not buying most of this. Given the general, deserved, hatered for the man I view this as an attempt to profit off of it, add a little "Natural Born Killers" to it and brainwash the proles into thinking that the events in this movie is exactly how real life went down.

It's reverse reality TV, or reality TV after-the-fact...... Like reality books in Social Studies when we were kids....

Remember when Christoper Columbus was a hero and not a slave trading Indian hater? Or was that Christopher Cross....? I'm such a confused prole.... too much beer and cake and circus. OJ did it, Michael Jackson should be behind bars, Brett Favre should be able to play, go Cubs!

Sailing.... takes me awaaaaaayyyyyyy.....



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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:23 AM

JONGSSTRAW


6ix, you're a riot! Don't worry about this movie. It will be a gigantic flop just like Stone's World Trade Center was...as was Redacted, Rendition, Lions For Lambs, and a dozen other anti-American pieces of junk. Most Americans are fair-minded, and can recognize liberal revisionist horseshit when they see it. And if Stone is looking to ignite some debate about morality and lifestyle with McCain & Obama, he should re-consider that. The Obama's don't give their kids Christmas presents or Birthday presents, as reported in a recent interview. Now that's f'ing un-American!

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:29 AM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Given the general, deserved, hatered for the man I view this as an attempt to profit off of it

I agree, it comes across as being something along those lines.

I think a movie about him is way too premature, they should've waited for a couple of years and let the dust settle a bit. Maybe it'll be a decent flick, but I won't be watching this.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:29 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Don't worry about this movie. It will be a gigantic flop

Yeah- besides, they already made the movie about Dubya's life...the title was Omen 3 if memory serves...

isall

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah... heh... I've been on a positive kick recently.... A man against the tide you could say.

Here's hoping all our real worries aren't over so I can continue to shine

Actually, I have thought about not celebrating Christmas myself. I think that there is a real psychological impact on a kid when they realize that their parents were lying to them on such a basic level for so many years and it is likely why there is so much anti-trust between adults and children later in life. I've never done a scientific study on it, other than my own life of course, but I'm just not a fan....

They'll get presents like the other kids do, but they will appreciate them and be taught how things really are.

Personally, I don't belive that's unAmerican. Santa wasn't around when the Constitution was signed... at least not the Santa that makes billions of dollars for Toys 'R Us over the decades anyhow.

Fuck Obama anyways.

RP

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:06 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Don't worry about this movie. It will be a gigantic flop

Yeah- besides, they already made the movie about Dubya's life...the title was Omen 3 if memory serves...



Omen 3 Chris? C'mon, you're smart and you're a film buff too, you can do better than that! How about Creature From the Black Oil Well, or The Day That Intelligence Stood Still, or maybe I Married A Monster From Outer Crawford?

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


Remember when Christoper Columbus was a hero and not a slave trading Indian hater? Or was that Christopher Cross....? I'm such a confused prole.... too much beer and cake and circus. OJ did it, Michael Jackson should be behind bars, Brett Favre should be able to play, go Cubs!

Sailing.... takes me awaaaaaayyyyyyy.....



I don't care who ya are - that's just damn funny!

6ix, you got the line of the day. Who else could work a Christopher Cross reference in a rant on revisionist history!



Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:40 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Don't worry about this movie. It will be a gigantic flop

Yeah- besides, they already made the movie about Dubya's life...the title was Omen 3 if memory serves...



Omen 3 Chris? C'mon, you're smart and you're a film buff too, you can do better than that! How about Creature From the Black Oil Well, or The Day That Intelligence Stood Still, or maybe I Married A Monster From Outer Crawford?



Or maybe There Will Be MORE Blood!

"I drink YOUR milkshake!"

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:55 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
How about Creature From the Black Oil Well, or The Day That Intelligence Stood Still, or maybe I Married A Monster From Outer Crawford?



The 27th Dick
The Amazing Colossal Boost
The Wizard Of Blah-blahs
The Incredible Shrinking Economy
Day Of The Insipids




isall

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:57 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
How about Creature From the Black Oil Well, or The Day That Intelligence Stood Still, or maybe I Married A Monster From Outer Crawford?



The 27th Dick
The Amazing Colossal Boost
The Wizard Of Blah-blahs
The Incredible Shrinking Economy
Day Of The Insipids


Now you're cooking! Love 'em all.
Honorable mention to:

Apocalypse Now, Anyone?
Executive In-Action
I Spy - On You
Abu Grahib & Costello Meet The Rummy
All Quiet In The West Wing John
&
Soon to be released from United Alzheimer's Pictures, their newest rising star John McCain as...ta da...Stuporman!
Stuporman!, able to leap over complicated issues by saying I don't know....
Stuporman!, with powers & abilities unbeknownst to anyone other than his former VC programmers...
Stuporman!, who can bend his positions, change the course of mighty legislation... And who, disguised as endlessly annoying and irrelevent John McCain, fights a never-ending battle for truth & justice, and trying to remember what state he's in.





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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:16 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"... and trying to remember what state he's in."
That's an easy one - the state of confusion.




Fortunately, I have a day job.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:18 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Abu Grahib & Costello Meet The Rummy

That was particularly inspired, I thought LOL.

isall

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:26 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

I think that there is a real psychological impact on a kid when they realize that their parents were lying to them on such a basic level for so many years and it is likely why there is so much anti-trust between adults and children later in life.

You're not wrong.

This issue is explored a little bit here.

The Lies We Tell Kids.
http://www.paulgraham.com/lies.html

I think you'd find it very interesting, Jack.

I make a point NOT to lie to kids, and from many of them, especially my niece and her friends, have learned that kids are far, FAR from being as uninformed, clueless, or irresponsible as we think they are.

But they wall US off with lies too, carefully memorised set-piece crap in an almost challenge-response pattern - if they don't TRUST you, they'll parrot the socially acceptable response and play dumb at you, every time.

You have to really *earn* their trust and respect in order to get past that wall, and hear what they really think, and even then a poker face is advised cause kids come up with some STRANGE* ideas and concepts sometimes...

-Frem
* - For a few months after a certain Xmas when she was real little, my niece thought I WAS Santa Claus... Michigan is cold, way up north, and somehow she got it mixed up with the north pole, and the armloads of presents sealed the issue for her, in spite of the fact that I am neither fat, nor jolly... kids are weird.

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Sunday, August 3, 2008 5:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I know I aint' off my rocker there Frem.

Nobody in my family gets why I would "deprive my kids of Christmas", but I clearly remember when I figured out there was no Santa. It was shortly after my parents got a divorce and I was laying down on my bed and my mom was there after I went to the doctors office for something or other. I said to my mom "There really isn't a Santa, is there" and she replied "Well, I'd like to think there's a little Santa in all of us".....

I know my mom and I have had more than our fair share of anymosity and bitterness between each other over the years, but she didn't lie to me when I called her on it and I think that is a pretty damn good response given the fact I was about 5 or 6 when I figured that it was a dream on my own.


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Monday, August 4, 2008 5:04 PM

MRBLUESUN


Oh sweet Raptor Jesus!!!
Please tell me this is a fake, or at least a parody of some kind!

I'd have thought that most americans would want Bush to be forgotten, consigned to the dusty annals of history as a bad joke t obe laughed at in hindsight during better days, NOT to be glorified in a biopic....

I mean, dear god, i'm embarrassed about that he was elected (twice) and i'm not even american.

I may wear brown, but theres a little purple mixed in there too.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL... I'm sure he's not glorified man... No worries.

He might be glorified in the sense that Woody Harrelson's Mickey was glorified in Natural Born Killers, as in that the movie is currently being blamed for some ugly looking prick strangling his beautiful girlfriend to death while he was "sleeping" after they watched it.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=774889

Once you've watched it, you can't unwatch it.... ~Bender of Futurama

Notoriety is just as important as the benevolent flipside. Do you think we're better or worse off for having remembered Nixon?



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