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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Is there some reason we're not using SeaLaunch to get people into orbit as needed?

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Is there some reason we're not using SeaLaunch to get people into orbit as needed?

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Because the Rockets aren't big enough. Certainly not for a trip to the moon.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

No, not for the Moon, but for orbit, to get to the ISS in the absence of the shuttle.

Some of the payloads they put up there are heavier than the space capsules we used to pop up into orbit in the 60's.

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

No, not for the Moon, but for orbit, to get to the ISS in the absence of the shuttle.

Some of the payloads they put up there are heavier than the space capsules we used to pop up into orbit in the 60's.

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The Shuttles Maximum payload is 25,061kg, the Zenit-3SL's is 6,000kg.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

We're clearly talking about different things. I'm talking about ferrying human beings to orbit without the shuttles and without buying Russian ferry boat tickets.

6,000 kg is plenty enough to get a man to the ISS.

--Anthony

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Originally posted by piratenews:

No manned spaceflight for at least 5 years, if ever.

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

We're clearly talking about different things. I'm talking about ferrying human beings to orbit without the shuttles and without buying Russian ferry boat tickets.

6,000 kg is plenty enough to get a man to the ISS.

--Anthony

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No, we're not, I'm just not making myself clear. Though I'd note that a hell of a lot of the Zenit-3SL is actually, yanno, Russian...

Anyway the Gemini Capsule that put the first American into space weighed 3,133kg, the Apollo command module alone was 5,809 kg, and that didn't include rocket motors, propellant or life support systems (which were all carried by the service module which weighed 24,523kg) so 6000kg isn't all that much really. Taking Apollo as the example, 6000kg will get three people into orbit, which is less than crew of the spaceshuttle alone.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:


WRONG AGAIN , Cit...

The MERCURY spacecraft that carried the first American into space massed 1,118 kg (2,464 lb).

Danged American education system again...

You can look this up later...Maybe before you post again...

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yeah...he's not american.

~lissa

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Originally posted by out2theblack:


WRONG AGAIN , Cit...

The MERCURY spacecraft that carried the first American into space massed 1,118 kg (2,464 lb).

Danged American education system again...

You can look this up later...Maybe before you post again...

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yeah...he's not american.

~lissa

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Originally posted by citizen:


What a marvelous response, certainly showing the depth of your own IQ there, let me guess, product of the American public school system right. I tell you what, rather than 'doing the math' and working out the real reasons for the problems identified, how about you read some conspiracy theories about how it's all them thar foreigners trying to keep the working man down.

I've down the math, evidently you've read some tin foil hat theories about globalisation that have little evidential back up and lots of vitriolic hyperbole, just keep from thinking, grasshopper...

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

We're clearly talking about different things. I'm talking about ferrying human beings to orbit without the shuttles and without buying Russian ferry boat tickets.

6,000 kg is plenty enough to get a man to the ISS.

--Anthony

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No, we're not, I'm just not making myself clear. Though I'd note that a hell of a lot of the Zenit-3SL is actually, yanno, Russian...

Anyway the Gemini Capsule that put the first American into space weighed 3,133kg, the Apollo command module alone was 5,809 kg, and that didn't include rocket motors, propellant or life support systems (which were all carried by the service module which weighed 24,523kg) so 6000kg isn't all that much really. Taking Apollo as the example, 6000kg will get three people into orbit, which is less than crew of the spaceshuttle alone.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

No, not for the Moon, but for orbit, to get to the ISS in the absence of the shuttle.

Some of the payloads they put up there are heavier than the space capsules we used to pop up into orbit in the 60's.

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The Shuttles Maximum payload is 25,061kg, the Zenit-3SL's is 6,000kg.

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But in fact , the Zenit 3SL is far from being a man-rated booster ; which is a different ballgame entirely , from flinging a comsat to a transfer orbit...

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
How inconvenient for the CM crewmen , then , that the Service Module was always JETTISONED prior to the re-entry (atmospheric interface) being accomplished...

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Duh , Obviously !

( BTW , lissa , that should be (A)merican ; being that it's a 'proper name' , it would be properly capitalized...)

He's plainly just another English @rseh0le with no lack of 'opinions' , while he's short of facts...

( Sorta like the wanks who butt into other folks' arguments without knowing anything of context...)

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Originally posted by lissa:
second: i chose to "butt in" due to the fact that i personally know citizen to be a friendly, intelligent person. also, i was bored. again, chill.

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Originally posted by lissa:
second: i chose to "butt in" due to the fact that i personally know citizen to be a friendly, intelligent person. also, i was bored. again, chill.

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LIES! LIES AND SLANDER!

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Originally posted by citizen:
Attractive Women are winking at me, whatever will I do?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Which is about three feet higher than the part that's stiff now.

-F
(Tooooo easy!)

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Which is about three feet higher than the part that's stiff now.

-F
(Tooooo easy!)

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Originally posted by citizen:
Attractive Women are winking at me, whatever will I do?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
A bit petty don'tcha think, Out2 ?

Not that I am one to talk, mind you, but try and keep it to the same thread as the reason for the snark, yes ?

-F

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