Another stolen election; troops in position by SignyM

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Another stolen election; troops in position

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 17:23
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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:14 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

As you all may know- or should know by now- the swing in the last Presidential election between the exit poll and the final vote tally is viewed by top-notch, highly respected statisticians as explainable only by fraud. The basic facts are that six contested states with electronic voting experienced an unheard-of 6-9% swing between the exit polls and the final vote tally, and that the swing always went in one direction. (Freeman, Mitteldorf et al)

The whole topic went dark for a few years, but meanwhile, voters in Ohio (one of the six states) brought civil suit against Ken Blackwell, the notoriously tainted Ohio Scy of State for "Improper Election Administration"
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/klbna.php

The expert witness for the plaintiffs is Steven Spoonamore. Spoonamore is an EXPERT in the field of electronic security, a lifelong Republican, and a (previous) McCain supporter. As such, he's no moon-brain or crazy conspiracy theorist... altho he WILL be painted as such by the Administration.

http://cybrinth-africa.com/Stephen_Spoonamore.html

Spoonamore has pinpointed Rove's cyber-operative, Michael Connell. Michael is the guy who allegedly created and inserted the code that "flipped" votes, and he is the center of a whole lot of suspicious activity (running around and replacing hard drives in various voting machines). Michael's motivation is that he is an extreme anti-abortionist Catholic who would do anything to 'save the babies". I have no "best" website for all of this. Here is Spoonamore explaining what really happened during the Ohio vote.

Rove threatens Michael Connell
http://thejournal.epluribusmedia.net/index.php/state-news/ohio-news/12
7-rove-threat-to-blackmail-gop-it-mastermind-triggers-immunity-request-to-ohio-ag-by-election-lawyers

Meanwhile, the point about troops being stationed in the USA to "help" in cases of civil unrest is 100% factual. You should take it seriously.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:10 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Deadly Seriously.

With the full and complete meaning of those words.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:18 AM

CHRISISALL

Yep. I have not been joking about this.
And wait for the 'necessary' internet censorship.
If we're lucky, very lucky, we might all dodge these bullets.

Hopingforsanitytowinoutisall

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:02 AM

JONGSSTRAW

That's a real swell posture to take........

If Obama wins, then everything was all fine and legal.

If McCain wins, then voter fraud was the cause.

If only the Banks could cover their bad loans as easily as some are already covering the election result.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

The only stealing of any elections will be by the Dems, as they tried in 2000. Thankfully, they failed, and will likely fail again in '08.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:22 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Jong

No cites, no facts, just like Rap. How's the Kool-Aid ?

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:23 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Rap

Yeah, how IS that Kool-Aid ?

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:39 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Maybe Chris, maybe...

Had a bit of a dialogue with Dingell this past week, he's not directly my rep but he is my go-to-guy for a defense of 2A Rights often against the wishes of and in contravention of his own party.

One thing we're agreed on is that Obama does not respect the 2A, and we're going to pre-emptively and politically kneecap his ass regarding that fact to prevent him from getting excessively stupid about it.

See, ya gotta take the long view, and with the Rethugs busy engaging in what could be best termed a circular firing squad, that's when it falls to us NOT to breathe a sigh of relief and go home, like so many did when the Dems took a stronger foothold in congress - with the predictable result of them rolling over like bitches the moment we let the pressure off.

Obama has his flaws, and while Biden might be a restraining influence on him, I wouldn't count on that fact alone to prevent the results of those flaws from coming down on our heads.

First, you get the more reasonable, rational guy in office, THEN you make DAMNED SURE that any attempt to overstep himself runs smack into a well formed, pre-existing and rabidly defended roadblock, manned by folks who are tired enough of that shit to not take it from ANY administration.

And that goes for both Conservatives and the kool-aid chuggin RightWingNut horde too...

Cause if yer concerned about Obamas little "plans" you might ponder the fact that we the people don't have to LET him inflict them upon us, and perhaps the best way to avoid that is to push for undoing YOUR blank check that you handed to the executive office in your ignorant fucking stupidity, before he rams it down you throat on a pike like your little pet Shrub did to us.

Kick his ass till it sinks in between his oversized ears that he works for US, not vice versa, use those shrill voices in your own defense, and by that action defend the rights of us all.

In short, pull your fucking weight as americans for once, instead of forcing the rest of us to carry you, unwilling, and you screamed and struggled and demanded a de-facto dictatorship.

And if Obama DOES feed you a hefty helping of the shit sandwich shrub has been feeding us for seven years, you have only yourselves to blame, and don't go expecting much sympathy from me, since your support of a unitary executive enabled that to happen.

In fact... don't expect any fucking sympathy from me at all, because those of you who shouted the loudest in support of tearing down the checks and balances are now running in panicked circles at the thought of the power YOU enabled being aimed at you by a party you disagree with.

But it ain't about sympathy you pissants, and thank your lucky fuckin stars for that - right now it's about self-defense, and if we're gonna get stuck with this guy, the LEAST you can do to atone for your damnfool shortsighted ignorant stupidity is to help rebuild the walls you spent so much effort tearing down.

Or you can run and hide under a rock like your fairhaired boy McCain.

You don't owe me shit, but I think you owe it to yourselves to not let Obama and his plans run over us all.

That's MY bi-partisan call to ya, and if you don't like it, too fuckin bad, you don't HAVE to like it, but if you have any sense left at all, you'll do it.

Get on the horn to your reps and start roadblocking this shit, before he's got a chance to get the ball rolling on it.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:44 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"... with the Rethugs busy engaging in what could be best termed a circular firing squad... "

I wouldn't count them out. They STILL have their fingers in all the machinery. On top of which they have a president still in office (who's worthless, but it's shorthand for Cheney and the gang) who STILL has the ability to create crises to throw the country in turmoil.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:57 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by rue:
Jong

No cites, no facts, just like Rap. How's the Kool-Aid ?

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Hey Rue...I respond to an obvious flamethrowing topic with a general response...and you want a fucking cite???
You're not honest or worth my time.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:09 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Hey Jong

Lots of cites on the orginal post - and you ? You got NOTHING ! Just more of your bogus crap. Go fuck yourself. And I mean that with all due respect. Oh, and have a nice day.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:24 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by rue:
Hey Jong
Just more of your bogus crap. Go fuck yourself. And I mean that with all due respect. Oh, and have a nice day.

Back at ya bitch.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:28 AM

CHRISISALL

That's it, I'm going to a thread where peeps don't restrain themselves with fake politeness.

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:46 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Good luck with that Chrissy.

Like a knife in the moonlight, free speech is a beautiful and dangerous thing.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:50 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Good luck with that Chrissy.

I, uh, AM a guy, you know...or do you keep callin' me that, for, um, more sly-like reasons?

Not that there's anything wrong with that....my first girlfriend's brother went that way...

isall

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Jongstraw, the point still stands... there is plenty of evidence that the last election was cooked. Not by the results themselves, but by discrepancies and activities of the people involved.

And you? You have... what?

If evidence turns up in THIS election that it was cooked- either way, towards Dems or Repubs- what would you say then? It was all faked? That the losers are just a bunch of whiners? Ya gotta give some credit to the evidence, man.

BTW, to satisfy my own curiosity, I did a statistical analysis of the 2000 Florida Presidential vote. (You may recall that a consortium of newspapers published "what if" for all of Florida... "What if dimpled chads had been counted? What if three-corner chads had been counted?" etc.) When I ran the stats, the ONLY recount that made a difference was not in the punch-paper ballots that the poor counties used. The recount that swung the vote wildly in Gore's favor was in an ELECTRONIC recount. At the time, I thought it was a curiosity, an anomaly, as I had expected the "poor county's" votes to be the deciding factor. I said "HUH".

It turns out that Leon County Elections Supervisor Ion Sancho was so shocked about the demonstrated potential for electronic fraud that he turned into a rabid campaigner for full audits. It seems as if 16,000 votes magically turned into negative numbers in the 2000 election. http://votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2335
&Itemid=26

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:42 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Hey Jong

Lots of cites on the orginal post - and you ? You got NOTHING ! Just more of your bogus crap. Go fuck yourself. And I mean that with all due respect. Oh, and have a nice day.

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Hello,

Rue, you are out of line. I thought you were better than this.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:45 PM

RIVERLOVE

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Hey Jong

Lots of cites on the orginal post - and you ? You got NOTHING ! Just more of your bogus crap. Go fuck yourself. And I mean that with all due respect. Oh, and have a nice day.

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Hello,

Rue, you are out of line. I thought you were better than this.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

That's very true Anthony. It loooks like Mother Superior Rue let Jongstraw get her all upset and emotional-like. Pretty damn funny.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:43 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

I doubt there will be an election this year. Stock market is losing over $1-Trillion/day. USA is already invading 140 nations. US dollar is KIA. Media mafia refuses to mention 4 of the 6 presidential candidates, who are banned from "debates" and were arrested at the debates in 2004. Police and military are bought and paid for. Foreign troops already command Northcom in USA. McBama follows orders.

Who's gonna stop em if They cancel the "election"?

Quote:
"A country that is now aspiring to an Ownership Society will not find happiness in - and I'll use hyperbole here for emphasis - a Sharecropper's Society. But that's precisely where our trade policies, supported by Republicans and Democrats alike, are taking us."
-Jew Warren Buffet, richest human in USA who paid himself $30-Billion personal salary in 1 year tax-free, architect of the Wall Street BAILout in 2008, owner of CIA GEICO Govt Employeee Insurance Corp, pedophile pervert in the Franklin Coverup & bankrobbery, who "coincidentally" played golf at Strategic Air Command HQ in Omaha Nebraska with WTC CEOs on 9/11/2001 with George Bush Jr, Berkshire Hathaway annual report, March 5, 2005

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh."
—George Bush Jr

"I don't give a goddamn! I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way! Stop throwing the Constitution in my face!. It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
—George Bush Jr, Capital Hill Blue, Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper, December 5, 2005
www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.”
—President George H. W. Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, conversation with US Army Intelligence agent and White House press corps Sarah McClendon, December 1992

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
-George W Bush, Gridiron Dinner, March 2001

If the election is cancelled, that's what the Dumborats get for not impeaching Bush when they had the chance.

Of course Bush did send anthrax letters to his Demorat opponetns in Congress, and did try to crash a Boeing 757 into the Capitol Building, except a USAF mutiny shot it down.
www.piratenews.org/flight93.html

But only 1% of Amerikan sheeple are willing to join the mutiny to save USA. That's not nearly enough...

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:40 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

AnthonyT

I get so deadly tired of dealing with the propaganda echo chamber and its brainless moronic minions.

How MANY times do I have to forgive them and treat them like they're worth my time and effort ?

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Meanwhile, Jongsstraw has provided neither cites nor evidence.

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