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Revolution Time: Life in prison for brown yard!

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Sunday, October 12, 2008 4:53 PM

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In USA, civil contempt of court is a life sentence on death row in debtors prison, no bail, no trial, no appeal.
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Brown lawn means jail time

By Jodie Tillman
St Petersburg Times
October 11, 2008

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BAYONET POINT, FLORIDA — On Friday morning, Joseph Prudente put on a pair of shorts and his "Grandpa Gone Wild" T-shirt. He took off his wedding band and put his heart medication in a plastic Wal-Mart bag.

Then his daughter drove him to jail. Grandpa had time to do.

His crime? He had disobeyed a court order that he sod the lawn at his Beacon Woods home.

His bail? Zero.

Prudente, 66, must stay in the Pasco County jail in Land O'Lakes until the required sod work is completed, under a September court order signed by Circuit Judge W. Lowell Bray.

"He's in prison for God knows how long because we can't afford to sod the lawn," said his sobbing daughter, Jennifer Lehr.

Prudente has owned a home in the deed restricted community since 1998. The covenants require homeowners to keep their lawns covered with grass.

Earlier this year, the Beacon Woods Civic Association took Prudente to court after he failed to install new sod on his browning lawn, which had withered after his sprinklers broke. The association had already sent letters telling him to resod his front and back yards by certain dates.

In an interview at the jail Friday evening, Prudente said he thought he had made a good financial hardship case to the association: His adjustable rate mortgage went up an extra $600 a month. Wachovia repossessed his Toyota Scion. His daughter and her two young children, who had fallen on hard times, moved in with him and his wife, Pat.

"To me, keeping the house is more important than the grass," said Prudente, a retired registered nurse from New York. "I just ignored them."

He ignored them, too, after the association filed a complaint in court. He ignored a court order in May, signed by Bray, giving Prudente 30 days to sod the yard.

In June, the court also awarded the association $795 in fees, which included a $645 attorney's fees and a $150 fee for "an expert witness."

By September, there was still no sod. Bray found Prudente in contempt of court, but said in his order that Prudente could "purge himself of this contempt" by doing the required work within the next 30 days. That time expired Friday.

"It is clear to the Court that the ability to avoid incarceration is well within the Defendant's grasp," Bray wrote.

Representatives of the Beacon Woods association expressed regret Prudente had landed in jail. But they said it was his own fault.

"It's a sad situation," said board president Bob Ryan, who added that the association had followed all the correct procedures. "But in the end, I have to say he brought it upon himself."

Lawyer Thomas Gurran, who represents the association, said in a statement that the association had "just wanted Mr. Prudente to comply with the lawn restriction." He added that the contempt power of judges is essential to the system.

"Many orders and judgements … would be absolutely meaningless if they could not be enforced by a judge's contempt power," he said. "This case is an example of what happens when someone defies an order entered by a judge in our country."

Prudente's family said the case had gone too far. Pat Prudente said she and her husband knew they had chosen to live in a community with restrictions. "But they shouldn't have this much power," she said.

Back at the jail — where the population is 1,132, well above the 782 capacity — Parente said he was being treated well. He has no criminal record in Florida and said his stay in Land O'Lakes was his first time ever in a slammer.

What comes next? He doesn't know. "Should I go out and rob a bank? Then I'd be back here," he said. "But then I'd get out on bail."

Jodie Tillman can be reached at jtillman@sptimes.com or (727) 869-6247.

www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article847365.ece



H. Beatty Chadwick jailed for 11 years — so far — for the crime of divorce
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Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:15 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


It's a Brown World !

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Monday, October 13, 2008 3:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA


This is why you make them afraid of you.

This guy, see, he's a nice guy - and see what it got him, right ?

I woulda been yankin their skeletons out of the closet in a bloody conga line singin kumbiya if they ever started pushing something like that at me, and if the threat was sufficient that my lawyer thought he could make a buck off sticking them with the fees as well as defending me, he'd have been up their ass with the legal equivalent of a chainsaw wreckin havoc.

I think they know it too, never once have they contacted me, asked for dues or any of that mess, and after the snow shovel incident, made it discretely clear that they've no intention of hassling me in any way.

Most of them things are just a thin veneer of shine on top of a fraud or scam anyway, collecting money and setting arbitrary rules to run off folks who don't suck up to their little social circle, and yet they offer no benefit - so it's well worth the effort to get some dirt on them, and all too easy to do so.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Monday, October 13, 2008 3:46 PM

KIRKULES


I'd just buy a Ninja suit and a gallon of Roundup. All those perfect lawns would be brown in two days.

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Monday, October 13, 2008 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
I'd just buy a Ninja suit and a gallon of Roundup. All those perfect lawns would be brown in two days.


That's actually a good idea. But be sure you have an ironclad alibi.

In Austin TX the codes enforcement cops were stealing entire houses for tall grass tickets. So Alex Jones took his videocam to the home of the codes enforcement supervisor, and her grass was 2-feet tall.

All these cops use a double standard. No laws for them, Nazi code for the sheeple. Most of those types are actual mobsters, 2nd generation. So that's just the way they think, that robbery is a valid career choice. And cops make the best armed robbers.

Another reason to fight every traffic ticket, just for practice in court procedure. Where this guy went wrong is ignoring a lawsuit. Ignoring a lawsuit is the correct procedure only when there's no personal service of process, such as parking tickets or robocop tickets, because no judge is allowed to accept such a case in court, for lacking constitutional due process of notice.

It's possible that this lawsuit also lacked personal service of process, but since he didn't even know what that is, or how to argue in court pro se without a lawyer, he might as well be retarded.

I GUARANTEE you some mobster wants to steal this guy's house, like those infomercials of stolen houses for $100 at govt tax sales.

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Monday, October 13, 2008 10:17 PM

KHYRON


Florida again ... why am I not surprised?

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McCain/Palin: The first presidential ticket that features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.

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Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:05 AM

FREMDFIRMA


He won out, in the end, BTW.

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y.html


The reaction of less self-enraptured people in the neighborhood was much more productive: Led by a former Marine named Andy Law, the neighborhood spontaneously rallied behind Joseph and his family. A crew of about twenty people pitched in to donate money and time to re-sod the lawn on their behalf.

"What are we coming to," a properly disgusted Law commented to the local media, "when we're putting our senior citizens in jail for having a brown lawn?"

"Everyone's having a hard time now," Law pointed out, alluding to the fact that the effects of the unfolding Depression can be felt in his neighborhood, where foreclosures and short sales are becoming common. "There's a lot worse things going on than brown lawns."


Nice folk, like I said - believe me, if *I* had twenty people on my side going head to head with a homeowners org, there'd be rope involved.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:39 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Anyone tight on money can claim their Homestead Exemption to make themselves "judgment proof" in any civil lawsuit or criminal prosecution. In Florida you can own a $10-million home without a mortgage and still be "indigent" and "collection proof". But this guy don't know how to fill out an Affidavit of Indigency to Proceed In Forma Pauperis, as allowed in every court.

A happier ending would be some form of retribution against the Homeowners Ass, and others involved.

As owners become older and more disabled, plus the economic Depression and theft of pensions, these problems escalate. The Shylocks move in for the kill.

Here's a guy today in my hamlet, overheard live on the scanner, who blew his head off as deputies arrived to evict him.
www.thedailytimes.com/article/20081029/BREAKING/810299976

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