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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:55 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Kuhl Conducts Road User Charge Tax Study in North Carolina

The News-Observer
Bruce Siceloff, Staff Writer
University of Iowa
October 7, 2008

Two hundred Triangle drivers will be recruited this fall to road-test a satellite-technology system that might be used one day to collect highway taxes on every mile we drive -- replacing the gas tax on every gallon we buy.
Computers mounted in volunteers' cars will use global positioning system tracking to count the miles -- even across state lines.

Participants will receive make-believe state and federal tax bills for their miles. For their time and their opinions, they'll be paid $895 in real money.

The $16.5 million Road User Charge Study will enlist drivers in six states to determine whether the technology works, and whether Americans would accept a new mileage tax. Volunteers will be asked how they feel about technology that collects information about their driving.

The federal government and 15 states, including North Carolina, are paying for the study to find a fair, reliable revenue source that can keep pace with growing transportation needs.

"The gas tax is not going to be a viable way of funding our highways in the future," Jon Kuhl, a University of Iowa professor who is directing the study, said in an interview. "The national Highway Trust Fund is already going broke, and the situation is going to get worse."

Gas tax collections are slowing as cars get more miles on each gallon, and as $4 pump prices force Americans to reduce their driving. A few years from now, many Americans might be driving plug-in electric and fuel-cell cars that don't use gas at all.

Michael Walden, an economist at N.C. State University, said the study will help Americans answer hard questions about how to pay for the nation's transportation infrastructure. He agreed with Kuhl that the nation needs to find a replacement for the gas tax.

"Perhaps a better way in terms of assessing someone's use of the roads is not how many gallons they use but how many miles they actually drive," said Walden, who is not involved in the study. "A mileage tax could be adjusted over time, as the cost of road construction goes up."

With the $895 bounty and an advertising campaign that will start next week, Kuhl and his team hope to enlist a diverse mix of car owners from the six-county Triangle area. Details are available by phone at 866-363-1975 (toll-free) or online at www.roaduserstudy.org.

After the participants are chosen and trained, their cars will be outfitted with GPS computers -- the satellite technology that drives popular dashboard navigation gadgets. Over eight months, starting in December, the car's computer will record the number of miles driven in each state, then upload the information to a central billing system.

Make-believe taxes

Cars will have make-believe per-mile tax rates based on their EPA-estimated fuel economy.

The tax rates are intended to generate about the same taxes on miles that the car pays in taxes on gallons of gas. The mileage tax would be higher for a heavy truck that burns a lot of gas, and lower for a fuel-thrifty hybrid.

A typical car rated at 24 miles per gallon will have a make-believe federal tax rate of 0.8 cents per mile, plus 1.3 cents per mile for the North Carolina tax, Kuhl said. For 24 miles, that's 31.2 cents state and 19.2 cents federal tax -- about a penny more than the current taxes on a gallon.

If the technology works, it could give federal, state and even local governments the option to set different tax rates for different vehicles.

Volunteers also will test of public attitudes about a new type of tax -- and about technology that gathers information about where people drive.

"Privacy is a hot-button issue," Kuhl said. "People rightly have a knee-jerk reaction about being tracked."

The system will only count the number of miles driven each month in a given state, he said.

"There's no way these units could be used to track people or determine they were in a particular place at a particular time," Kuhl said.

Some drivers will worry about government snooping, Walden said, and that could make it even harder to sell the idea of a new tax.

"I don't know if the mileage tax is going to be any better accepted than the gas tax, but I know we have a problem finding money for our roads," Walden said.

bruce.siceloff@newsobserver.com or 919-829-4527

www.engineering.uiowa.edu/news/newsDetail.php?newsID=243



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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:28 PM

ERIC


Yeah, THAT'S a great idea. Is there anyone who wouldn't rip such a device out of their car at the earliest possible opportunity?

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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:51 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


The Insurance Companies will be the incentive/enforcement arm to get this implemented...They'll offer 'cheaper insurance' to get folk to sign-on for the gadget...

Meanwhile , what sort of fools believe that GPS is not a location-reporting device ?

That's what it was designed for , ya know...

..." If the technology works, it could give federal, state and even local governments the option to set different tax rates for different vehicles.

Volunteers also will test of public attitudes about a new type of tax -- and about technology that gathers information about where people drive.

' Privacy is a hot-button issue,' Kuhl said. 'People rightly have a knee-jerk reaction about being tracked.'

The system will only count the number of miles driven each month in a given state, he said.

' There's no way these units could be used to track people or determine they were in a particular place at a particular time,' Kuhl said.

Some drivers will worry about government snooping, Walden said, and that could make it even harder to sell the idea of a new tax.

'I don't know if the mileage tax is going to be any better accepted than the gas tax, but I know we have a problem finding money for our roads,' Walden said. "



Different rates for different vehicles ?

Is that 'equal representation' under the Law ?

The real reason not enough money is being found for roads is that it is misappropriated and missspent...



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Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:20 AM

PIRATENEWS

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http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dealsgap/

Posting this one article on a motorcycle forum in Tennessee and North Carolina - the two states affected by this scam - got me immediately banned from that forum. Google shows deletion of that thread, but FFF is in the search results.

The cops police motorcycle and sportcar forums more ruthlessly than they police the highways for traffic criminals. Cops watch too much Sons of Anarchy.

Does that make me an internet criminal?
http://video.236.com/services/link/bcpid1126121768/bctid1703403258


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Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:26 AM

WHOZIT


This forum is more fun any way

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:32 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


I post a lot on daily newspaper and TV news forums and comments sections, in this town and all over the world, with no problem of censorship, while posting the exact same topics and comments.

That's because police state death squads don't yet run the news rooms. Not yet...

For some reason the cops are REALLY cracking down on bikers here in East TN and West NC.

For one thing, TN state budget is missing $5-billion, so traffic tickets are a quick way to steal cash, by making 5-million Tennesseans criminals every year. There's only 6-million Tennesseans...

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Friday, October 17, 2008 12:58 AM

FREMDFIRMA


On that note - follow my lead and anonymously throw Haken some bucks every once in a while as a gesture of appreciation for being such a laid back dude in respect to RWED.

Ban-happy admins are the bane of actually useful political discussion.

-F

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