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From the Houston Chronicle:

"Joe the Plumber," the Toledo, Ohio, man whose complaints about Barack Obama's tax plan were featured in the final presidential debate, owes the state of Ohio almost $1,200 in back income taxes.
According to records on file with the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas, the state filed a tax lien against Samuel J. Wurzelbacher for $1,182.98 on Jan. 26, 2007, that is still active.

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In a phone interview with CBS' Katie Couric, Joe Wurzelbacher said Barack Obama "tap dance[d] ... almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr." in their conversation. He also said he didn't actually make enough to fall into the group whose taxes would be raised under Obama -- but argued that it was a "slippery slope."

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By Robert Barnes
Joe the Plumber is not exactly a plumber, he's "not even close" to making the kind of money that would result in higher taxes from Democrat Barack Obama's proposals and has such an aversion to taxes that a lien was filed against him by the state of Ohio.

Not all the attention has been welcomed. Wurzelbacher, 34, told the Associated Press that he was not a licensed plumber. Because he works for a small company that does residential work, he said, he doesn't need to be licensed.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:



Also, he says Obama tap-dances like Sammy Davis, Jr.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

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Originally posted by Kwicko:



Also, he says Obama tap-dances like Sammy Davis, Jr.

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It's just amazing how there's no limit to Barry's talents...

Does this mean we get to call him Obama-Sammy ?

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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:

just heard on the evening news - Joe is not licensed to practice his trade in the state of Ohio...

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Originally posted by SignyM:
...only true thing that he said about himself was his name.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
"Joe the Plumber":

He's not a licensed plumber.
He makes $40,000 a year.
He's in no position to buy the business...
Which makes only $100,000 a year.
He's a Republican, and always has been.


In other words, the only true thing that he said about himself was his name. He's a Republican plant, and a fraud.


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Let's party like its 1929.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

Socialism = BAD for America

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I disagree.

Whatever his backround...Joe pointed something out.

Obama IS a socialist.

Socialism = BAD for America = Obama is likewise bad for America.

Im not a Republican so don't try it.

I just don't think I should have to pay for Shaniquanas 50 illigetimate, criminal kids.

Don't take MY money to shore up the failed housing in the ghettos/slums, or to "fix" the crime ridden "schools".

Likewise, don't dress up your socialist reperations, as taxes for helping the "poor".

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Actually, I would prefer a LIBERTARIAN society, Chris.

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Where I am FREE to go my own way, WITHOUT having to baby the low people in our society.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I don't want to pay for Wall Street either.

STOP TAKING MY MONEY TO "HELP" THE FAILURES IN OUR SOCIETY.

Let them die off.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:



If the playing field were fair, both of these types would have to actually work.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Do you want "every man for himself and God against all"?

Yes. Except I don't believe that God would be against all. In act, as the "author" of free will...I think God would be for a society based on CHOICE.

I want a society where you keep what you earn. Period. If you want to use some of what you've earned and "spead it around" yourself, you would be free to do so. Or not. It would be YOUR CHOICE.

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NEW YORK (CNN) -- In the midst of Wall Street's agonizing slide last week, there was at least one place in Manhattan where the liquor was flowing, the cigar smoke was billowing and the theme of the evening was simple: Work hard. Play hard.

"I was a crook," says Jordan Belfort, once a Wall Street fat cat who made $1 million a week before going to jail.

"It's like fiddling. Nero fiddled while Rome burned," said Thomas Graf, vice president and producer of Northmarq Capital. "We're smoking cigars while we're losing our shirts, literally." He was among hundreds of mid-level Wall Street executives and traders gathered for a party thrown by Cigar Report magazine, published by New York-based Doubledown Media. And if they seemed a little tone-deaf about how this kind of event could be perceived as millions of dollars were lost, at least on paper, most did not seem especially concerned. "It is a great time," said Adam Marsh of Empire Capital Partners. "I think for at least a couple of hours in the evening, we can kind of sit back, have a few drinks, forget what's facing us on the Street tomorrow."

Few of the men and women at the party earned millions in Wall Street bonuses on top of their salaries. But nearly all did very well, they say, at the top of the Wall Street bubble. And their bosses, along with those who managed Wall Street hedge funds, did even better. "These guys were spending more than $250 billion a year," Robert Frank said. "They bought mansions in Greenwich and Palm Beach. They bought art for $100 million a painting."

Frank, author of "Richistan," says the enormous amounts of money earned by Wall Street elite made them practically a nation unto themselves. "They just looked at the guy with the bigger house, the nicer Ferrari, the better artwork," he said. "And it was all competitive spending." One prominent example is the CEO of Lehman Brothers, Richard Fuld. In 2007 alone, according to the executive compensation firm Equilar, he earned total take-home compensation of more than $45 million in salary and bonuses. Congressional researchers said he earned nearly $500 million from 2000 through 2007.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I think it is inconcievable to some how very rich the very rich really are.

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With the sole social exception being education.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
So. For the few, who thru no fault of their own, nor thru their own stupidity or greed, are without shelter, food, clothing, (and family and friends to help them), there would be charitable organizations for them.

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So, to be succinct, I am against income taxes. However, until Ron Paul is president, I have to pay said taxes. As such, I am against them being used in ANY social program.

With the sole social exception being education.

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Originally posted by rue:

And - see above Chris, Is All. Do you really want MORE 'tinkle on' economics ? Do your really want the wealthy and powerful to be even MORE wealthy and powerful than they are now ?

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Fine then, Rue, since all you want to do is punish the rich....

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