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"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities.

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Transition Planning Gets Started Early So Candidates Can Be Prepared for National Security Threats

For the first time in American history, the FBI is already vetting members of the next administration in an effort to make sure that whether John McCain or Barack Obama is the next president, their staffs will be ready to handle any national security threats.

Though no specific threats are evident at this time, some members of the intelligence community say terror groups love to target countries during transition periods. Those intelligence experts point to terror attacks that came as Gordon Brown took over as Britain's new prime minister, and the Madrid bombings of March 11, 2003, that happened just before a major election there as examples of the vulnerability of new administrations.

White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten reportedly held a meeting this week with senior White House staffers and representatives from both the McCain and Obama camps. The goal was to make sure everyone is up to speed on the latest threats and have the information they need to be ready come inauguration day, Jan. 20.

"One of them is going to win the election, and they will be taking over and having to deal with these issues as they take over office. So it's only prudent for us to make sure that we get them the information that we think they need," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said during her Friday briefing.

This year, the presidential transition coordinating council -- brought together by President Bush -- has gotten started at its earliest date ever with the aim of preventing the next president from being caught in the same dilemma Bush faced on Sept. 11. 2001. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/19/transition-planning-gets-start
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Originally posted by whozit:
So if we elect McCain all of that wo'nt happen?

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
How has McCain "already been tested"?

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Originally posted by whozit:
Does this count as a gaffe, or can they blame it on to much Botox?

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
What’s interesting is that even Biden believes Obama is a weak president, which should speak volumes to those interested in voting for Obama.

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I agree with Biden. As soon as Bush is gone foreign entities hostile towards to the US will seek to take advantage of a weak president. What’s interesting is that even Biden believes Obama is a weak president, which should speak volumes to those interested in voting for Obama. Biden realizes that Obama isn’t likely to have the respect of foreign enemies, and is so certain of that he is starting damage repair months in advance.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ah, so THAT's why we were attacked on 9/11 - because Bush was such a weak and horrible president!

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Really? Care to cite that?

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
What’s interesting is that even Biden believes Obama is a weak president, which should speak volumes to those interested in voting for Obama.

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Really? Care to cite that? Since the quote from above, when read in full and not cherry-picked, says the opposite.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Speakin of weak...

Dear heavens, have you seen the wardrobe bills Palin has supposedly been running up on th RNC dime ?

Not confirmed as yet, although I've get on that after my shift and all, but if this is the real deal, that's almost hilarious.

We're talkin in excess of 50k here, I kid not, and it looks legit, mind - but again, that is not confirmed, yet.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Biden means that Obama is young and untested.

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I’m sure Biden wouldn’t disagree with that, and evidently he doesn’t disagree with it where Obama is concerned as well, which should make anyone think twice about voting for Obama.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Bush is a fucking worldwide LAUGHINGSTOCK

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Rap, Finn,

Who you talkin' to? lurkers? You "setting the record straight" for the lurkers? 'Cause no one here but the two of you misunderstood what Biden was saying. You're gonna convince precisely no one that Biden thinks Obama would be a weak President.

What is the point of carrying on like this? Sheer Masochism?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Not too funny to all the dead terrorists.

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'Cause no one here but the two of you misunderstood what Biden was saying.

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Awww Finn, you say that as if you're immune to the malady of partisan thinking to which the rest of us have all have fallen victim to....
Please, give us the vaccine, I beg of you

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
It is far too great a power in the hands of mortals.

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Bush is a fucking worldwide LAUGHINGSTOCK

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Not too funny to all the dead terrorists.

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Rap, Finn,

Who you talkin' to? lurkers? You "setting the record straight" for the lurkers? 'Cause no one here but the two of you misunderstood what Biden was saying. You're gonna convince precisely no one that Biden thinks Obama would be a weak President.

What is the point of carrying on like this? Sheer Masochism?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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I can’t help that many of you view the world with willful ignorance. But just because you don’t want to see any point of view but your own, doesn’t mean I should shut up.

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Yes, signym. That is yet another example of the willful ignorance I speak of.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
... you can't believe that Biden INTENDED to say Obama would be a weak President. He's campaigning for the man. So, either he misspoke, as he has so often misspoken before; or you've discovered a Freudian slip; or you're taking his comments out of context.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
C'mon Finn, you can't believe that Biden INTENDED to say Obama would be a weak President. He's campaigning for the man. So, either he misspoke, as he has so often misspoken before; or you've discovered a Freudian slip; or you're taking his comments out of context. So, the best you got is the Freudian slip and that sure doesn't seem like much to hang your hat on. And that's a game that has no winners.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Upon hearing of Biden's latest prediction, Louis Farrakhan ordered his Black Muslim followers to cut up their white robes into little squares. Farrakhan will deliver them personally to his good friend Obama to be used as surrender flags all over the world. Reverand Jeremiah Wright will assist with the surerender flag distribution. He'll sell them in the lobby of his church, right next to his God Damn America videos. For an extra 3 bucks, you can get one personally signed by Obama's mentor Bill Ayers.

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... you can't believe that Biden INTENDED to say Obama would be a weak President. He's campaigning for the man. So, either he misspoke, as he has so often misspoken before; or you've discovered a Freudian slip; or you're taking his comments out of context.

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No Freudian slip, no out of context. He said it soberly and alarmingly, and in line with his previous statements about Obama being "un-qualified to be President."

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You and Finn obviously think Obama is a poor choice for President. I can respect that. There are perfectly rational reasons to oppose an Obama Presidency (don't see a lot of reasonable grounds for supporting McCain on the other hand, but that's another issue). Why do you have to drag Biden into it?

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You and Finn obviously think Obama is a poor choice for President. I can respect that. There are perfectly rational reasons to oppose an Obama Presidency (don't see a lot of reasonable grounds for supporting McCain on the other hand, but that's another issue). Why do you have to drag Biden into it?

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Drag Biden into it? Didn’t anyone tell you? He’s Obama choice for VP. No one’s dragging him into it; he got into it on his own.

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the "it" I was talking about was your opinion.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Biden knows perfectly well the intel goons are gonna start some shit the minute Obama tries to snap the leash back on, that man is NOT stupid, politically or professionally, and he knows how things work both in the light of day and under cover of darkness.

He's also well aware of the petulance and maliciousness of the modern GOP and their NeoCon-PNAC-CleanBreak-Likud fanatic wing.

Saying that they will try to fuck things up and blame it on Obama is like saying the sun will rise in the east tomorrow, everybody knows it, Joe just decided to SAY it, to take some of the sharpness off that blade when it falls.

I always gave Rummy credit, he was not and never will be the most ethical of folk, but he was SMART, and knew how to play the game.

Well, the GOP has Rummy, and the Dems have Biden, he's not a NICE man by any stretch, in fact he's somewhat of an asshole, but he's a good guy to have on your side, especially when things get rough.

He's letting on that he knows, at least in a general sense, what the other side is up to, and challenging them a bit to put them off their game, is what it is, folks.

Like I said, he's SMART, in a way Obama is too nice to ever be - and a damn good choice for veep, cause I sure as hell wouldn't want him in charge, but I *would* want him on the team, oh yes.

-Frem

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Upon hearing of Biden's latest prediction, Louis Farrakhan ordered his Black Muslim followers to cut up their white robes into little squares. Farrakhan will deliver them personally to his good friend Obama to be used as surrender flags all over the world. Reverand Jeremiah Wright will assist with the surerender flag distribution. He'll sell them in the lobby of his church, right next to his God Damn America videos. For an extra 3 bucks, you can get one personally signed by Obama's mentor Bill Ayers.

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He'll have to ask McCain how to go about surrendering, seeing as McCain is the more experienced in that department.

Mike

What, no catchy sig-line?

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... you can't believe that Biden INTENDED to say Obama would be a weak President. He's campaigning for the man. So, either he misspoke, as he has so often misspoken before; or you've discovered a Freudian slip; or you're taking his comments out of context.

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No Freudian slip, no out of context. He said it soberly and alarmingly, and in line with his previous statements about Obama being "un-qualified to be President."

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Hey Jongs,

I was speaking on principle, not having reviewed Biden's remarks in full. I knew he wouldn't intend to say that Obama would be a weak President.

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