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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Obama, a Harvard brain, was either TOO FUCKING STUPID to know about these men, or he was TOO FUCKING AMBITIOUS to give a shit about their nefarious backgrounds.

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Which makes Obama different from McCain & Palin & Bush & Cheney & Clinton & Reagan & Nixon ETeffinC., HOW EXACTLY????

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Daniel Ortega's Sandanistas were the bad guys in Nicaragua.

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I thought you'd be old and wise enough to understand you don't excuse poor behavior and bad judgement by pointing fingers at others in an attempt at moral or ethical equivalency.

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Is it just the GOP who can get away with this? Does this say something about the GOP voter base? or are there real examples of this on the democratic side of things that I just can't think of?

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... the Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear.

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After the last eight years, there's a lot of clean up do. Roll up your sleeves, Senators Obama and Biden, and we Goldwaters will roll ours up with you.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

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Daniel Ortega's Sandanistas were the bad guys in Nicaragua.

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Yes, they were so terrible they threw out a corrupt dictator (Somoza), increased literacy from 50% to 87%, set up rural medical clinics, lowered the infant mortality rate, eliminated polio, and distributed land to small farmers. (Those dastardly socialists increased private ownership!)

Sheesh! How dare they do all that bad stuff????

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?

A hundred and fifty thousand dollar wardrobe!

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Originally posted by rue:
Erica, Erica, Erica ...

Can't you get anything right either ? All I can figure is you've been hanging with Rap too much and, well, whatever he's got, it's catchy. Ya' gotta' stop having close contact like that.

I hope you're better soon. I'm sure a little sanity in your life would be a welcome reprieve from confusion and delusion.


Meanwhile, try learning the definitions of socialism and communism. Then go back and try to find where SignyM is either one. Consider it a form of rehabilitation therapy.


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The Sandanistas were brutal Communists.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Yes, they actually, actively DESPISE intellectualism and intelligence. In this regard, they are absolutely no different from Mao Tse-Tung, the Khmer Rouge, or the Third Reich. Kill all the smart people, and the dumb ones will fall in line. This is EXACTLY the America that the Republicans want and strive for.

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The RNC has stated the clothes will be auctioned off for charity after the election; a little detail the dirty lying Dems conspicuously omit.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:


Besides, none of those you mention were mentored by or hired by slum lords, un-repentant Terrorist bombers of the US Capitol and Pentagon, or renowned racists and America haters like Obama has been weaned on all his life.

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Originally posted by rue:
... twitchy as a tweaker ?

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Jongs wrote:

You need some re-education.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
so other than trying to impress your motley crew of limp-wristed jerkoff followers here, I guess you do it because you cannot control the madness that flows from your obviously drug-damaged half-brain. Every thought in your fat head is fucked up. You need some re-education.

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Originally posted by Reaverman:
God, as much as I despise Obama for being a Socialist prick, Palin really has me considering voting for him, or possibly not voting at all. Everytime the woman opens her mouth, some new idiocy seems to spew forth, while at the same time, interesting little tidbits like her clothes budget crop up.

I'm about this close (*holds fingers slightly apart*) to just saying "fuck it" and giving up on democracy altogether. Every single election we choose between some douchebag and a moron to lead the country. I don't think I've seen a single election where one of the candidates seemed capable of handling the job effectively and responsibly.

*sigh* [/rant]

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Does anyone know if he will make the Bush tax cuts permanent if he is elected? Or will he allow them to expire ... thereby raising taxes on all of us?

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:


I'm no fan of hers, but somehow this doesn't strike me as terribly reproachable, unless it really is out of proportion compared to her peers.

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So, if they all spend that kind of money on clothes & stuff, it's okay? That's sick. What was spent on one person's clothes would feed & house 3 families for a year.
Anyone that throws money around like that while pretending to feel our pain is reprehensible IMHO.



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Originally posted by Odessa762:


Here's the thing I don't get about raising taxes on folks that earn over 250K...how does raising taxes on my boss (Big Bucks!) make things better for the nation? If the gov takes more of his money, he is going to look for way to get that money back somehow - he is used to getting $XXXXXX every month from his business. If his taxes go up, he will just give himself a raise to compensate for the increased taxes. That money has to come from someplace. If his business earnings stay the same, he has to cut business cost's someplace, right? I know he would resist cutting staff, but he would cut other expenses around the shop. He might alter our 401k plan, or our health benefits. Hell, today I asked for cash to replace some flourescent light bulbs that are out. I got turned down! ("Let's see how business is on Friday"). If cutting back on little things like that don't get him back to where he was pre-tax increase, he will - reluctantly - start to cut staff.

Seems to me that that scenario would put a strain on the gov ... if more folks lose their jobs or even if they just have their benefits cut.

I am no economist, so I don't know if I am missing something here, but raising taxes on the nation's job creators isn't really making sense to me.

I don't have much faith in a government run health care system, either. I have first hand experience with gov-run medical programs (Carter & Reagan VA) ... not attractive.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:


I am still thinkin the uniforms idea is a pretty good one, cause I could care less if my candidate shops at K-mart or Family Dollar, I care how they do the job, yanno ?

Which candidate is the ONLY one who returns a substantial portion of their office operating costs budget to the treasury without fail, every single year ?

Any guesses ?

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one thing I never do is blame em for who their parents are

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Originally posted by Geezer:
What does any of this, or Gov. Palin's clothes, have to do with politics or the election, you ask?

NOTHING!!!

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The median monthly mortgage payment in the US in 2007 was about $1500. In other words, Sarah Palin spent very nearly as much on clothing in a single month as the typical American family will spend on housing over the next ten years.

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Originally posted by Khyron:
During a time of economic woe, the RNC spends $150000 of donors' hard-earned money on Palin's clothes and that doesn't tell you something about how another Republican administration might handle its fiscal responsibilities?

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Think of the good that could be done if just 10%, even 5%, of that money were used to alleviate poverty, help prevent foreclosures, pay fuel bills for those who can't afford it. Why would anyone vote for such heartless, win-at-all-costs, bastards?

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Sorry, but Gov. Palin's wardrobe has nothing to do with how the RNC or the Republican Party works, except in the minds of those who would criticize them if they gave away free bread.

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If Palin's $150,000 shopping spree had Republicans disgusted, then the report that her makeup stylist cost $22,800 for the first two weeks of October should have them livid. The stylist, Amy Strozzi, was apparently paid more than any other McCain staffer during that period.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Awww, poor wittle frail-ego weenie is so damn happy to dish it out, but can't take it when someone fires back ?

Typical of the breed, actually - at least Hero has a sense of humor, Geeze and Anthony can be reasonable and logical even under fire, Rap and Finn have staying power, and Kirk sensibly brings stuff to the table worth arguing about.

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Originally posted by Geezer:
During a time of economic woe, the DNC spends $150 million plus of donors hard-earned money on political ads - which have debatable effect, and can't even be auctioned off later. Think of the good that could be done if just 10%, even 5%, of that money were used to alleviate poverty, help prevent foreclosures, pay fuel bills for those who can't afford it. Why would anyone vote for such heartless, win-at-all-costs, bastards?

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Sorry, but Gov. Palin's wardrobe has nothing to do with how the RNC or the Republican Party works, except in the minds of those who would criticize them if they gave away free bread. All the whining and finger-pointing just makes you look like spiteful children.

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