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Operation Northwoods at Fort Dix
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:51 AM
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Quote:FBI PAID INFORMANT 240G TO SPY ON DIX 'PLOTTERS' NY Post October 28, 2008 CAMDEN, NJ - Being an informant for the FBI in the Fort Dix terror investigation has paid well, a witness explained to jurors yesterday. John Stermel, an investigator assigned to an FBI counterterrorism task force, spent yesterday morning on the stand detailing the role of informant Mahmoud Omar, who wore a wire for 16 months in the investigation of five men accused of planning to shoot soldiers at the Army base. Defense lawyers say it was Omar who tried to plot an attack - not their clients. For his help, authorities will recommend that immigration officials, who once were considering deporting Omar, offer him legal-resident status or perhaps even citizenship, Stermel testified. By year's end, Omar will have received nearly $240,000 for his help - $185,000 in payments plus reimbursement for $25,000 in expenses and nearly $29,000 in rent. Weekly payments of $1,500 began in August 2006, the month Omar went with one of the defendants, Mohamad Shnewer, to check out Fort Dix. Anticipating defense attacks on Omar's credibility, a prosecutor asked Stermel about Omar's missteps. Among them: He tested positive for marijuana once while on probation; he admitted selling a Social Security number and was caught in a bank-fraud case for which he has not been prosecuted. Besides Shnewer, the defendants are Serdar Tatar and brothers Dritan, Eljvir and Shain Duka. www.nypost.com/seven/10282008/news/regionalnews/fbi_paid_informant_240g_to_spy_on_dix_pl_135665.htm
Quote: "Operation NORTHWOODS may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had called for nothing less than the launch of a secret campaign of TERRORISM within the United States in order to blame Castro and provoke a war with Cuba." —James Bamford, ABC News, "Friendly Fire: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba", May 1, 2001 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf They just fell down...
Quote:FBI paid Emad Salem $1.5-million and gave him the bomb to bomb World Trade Center in 1993 100 hours of undercover tapes by FBI employee Emad Salem proves FBI Special Agent in Charge ordered him to bomb WTC in 1993: http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3 http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/emad%20salem.mp3 The Dallas publication, Muslim World Monitor, disclosed on July 4 that Emad Ali Salem was an Egyptian intelligence officer who had entered the milieu of the followers of Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman at the behest of the FBI. He was in attendance at the trial of El Sayyid Nosair, accused in the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane, and he offered his services as a bodyguard of the Sheikh. Salem was "wired" throughout his association with the Muslim followers of the Sheikh. "A high-ranking former Egyptian intelligence officer, he was the informant who provided the FBI with taped conversations and all other evidence" used in the World Trade Center arrests and those of June 24. (Ibid.) Salem worked with other informants for the FBI, including Mahmoud Zaki Zakhary, who had been reporting regularly to the FBI since January 10, 1990. Between the two, the U.S. intelligence authorities knew every residence, office and meeting which occurred between the Sheikh and his followers for a period of three and a half years. As Muslim World Monitor explained, "Salem…had them under surveillance long before the February 26 blast took place." He was the source of "plans" to blow up the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels, the United Nations, other targets and the assassinations. "He has played the role, "concludes the Muslim World Monitor "of agent provocateur." Defense lawyers for the eight accused assert that their clients were entrapped in schemes of which they were unaware and were subjected to proposals by Salem himself. "Salem was wired before, after and during every meeting. It is known that Salem was involved in the initial discussions, provided the safe houses in which bombs were allegedly manufactured, helped purchase the firearms and other materials that were to be used in the attacks." (Ibid.) From the time of the El Sayyid Nosair trial, Salem was forever "brashly talking about violent actions and trying to incite people to do ‘crazy things.’ "These "things" were proposed after prior discussion with high-level intelligence authorities in the United States. SALEM’S TRIAL Under the headline "New York Trial in Rabbi’s Death Planted an Explosive Seed," the Los Angeles Times (July 4, 1993) confirms the information in the Muslim press with remarkable sangfroid. It cites the role of a "decorated former Egyptian military officer" for the emergence of "a clandestine cell of terrorists who conspired to set off the World Trade Center bomb blast, plotted an unparalleled wave of attacks on U.S. landmarks and political figures and shattered America’s image of invulnerability to terrorism." The "trail’ left by Salem "led from those courthouse steps to the dramatic raid June 24 on a makeshift bomb factory in Queens, zigzags through militant mosques, rural shooting ranges and seedy safehouses." It emerges that "critical evidence had been overlooked" by U.S. authorities, even though it was provided to them by "the still-mysterious cooperation of a stranger with Egyptian military medals." Salem became close to El Sayyid Nosair before the assassination of Meir Kahane, assisting him with finding lodgings and other services. After the assassination of Kahane, Chief of Detectives Joseph Borelli "shrugged off questions about the political implications of the assault." Yet, in a police raid of Nosair’s rented house in Cliffside Park, N.J., they "discovered manuals for building bombs. They found photos of the World Trade Center, the Empire State Building and the Washington Monument and a text advocating terrorists strikes on American soil." A senior investigator called this collection of documents "a road map" to the World Trade Center. This and attendant documents concerning bombings and assassinations "sat" in police and FBI hands, "untranslated in about 50 storage boxes." Thus, the FBI had all the documents concerning putative plans to blow up the World Trade Center and all the documents concerning like plans for the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels and other targets as early as 1990. By late summer 1992, "federal investigators … had reports that militant Muslims were scheming to assassinate the Secretary General of the United Nations, Boutros Boutros-Ghali." Their principal informant, Emad Ali Salem, "kept pictures of torture victims among his family albums." Their informant had arranged "by mid-February, the massive chemical bomb that would kill six and injure more than 1000 at the Trade Center, brewed in barrels hidden in the Jersey City storage unit." All these arrangements were reported by a wired Salem. "Meanwhile, stored in boxes in an FBI locker, … were the documents that would help unravel a plot to blow up the United Nations, the George Washington Bridge, the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels, the Empire State Building and the Washington Monument." EXTRAORDINARY ADMISSION This extraordinary admission that the FBI had advance plans and the full documentation of where to find everyone and everything was blithely reported. Only after the detonation of the bomb in the World Trade Center did "the FBI finally open the boxes." They had been receiving regular reports from "the man they called ‘the Colonel,’ [who] wore a hidden microphone as he moved the inner circle. … There … federal agents heard first-hand as another plot evolved," one promulgated by their own operative and the rationale for the arrests of June 24. All the while that the U.S. has sounded the alarm about "Muslim Fundamentalist terror," it has funded the Islamic Fundamentalist group in Afghanistan led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who has received to date $3.3 billion in official U.S. aid administered by the CIA. Many of the figures in the Muslim movement in the U.S., including those accused of involvement in the World Trade Center bombing, were among those who organized the sending of CIA arms and funds to Hekmatyar. (See "Late For Work," Prevailing Winds #1.) The U.S. rulers are terrorizing the American people with operations of their own authorship, deployed as a rationale for "maintaining vast military budgets for devastating assaults upon Iraq, Somalia and targets now on the Pentagon drawing board. ©Ralph Schoenman 1993 www.takingaimradio.com/articles/wtc93.html http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE6DF1138F93BA15753C1A965958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Salem www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/wtcbomb.html
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:57 AM
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Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:54 AM
RUE
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Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Please PN - try to put aside your delusions. I know they must seem very real and very urgent to you. But they make you miserable and you end up wasting your time, energy and resources fighting pointless fights instead of fixing real problems. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:00 AM
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Sigh ... I was replying to this: "The first thing FDR did was declare martial law and steal all gold bullion in USA. Expect OBiden to do something similar." Please don't interrupt the grownup conversation. BTW - I'm happy to know PN has managed to convince you that there exists a centuries old international consortium of British Jewish Nazi Illuminati. Good luck in your brave new world. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:29 AM
Quote:"Let's look at the real threats we face at home and abroad. Even the Joint Chiefs of Staff say that a strategic nuclear attack is less likely than a regional conflict a major theater of war, terrorist attacks at home or abroad, or any other number of real issues. We have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat, whil the real threat comes to this country in the hold of ship, the belly of a plane, or smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack." -Senator Joe Biden, National Press Club, September 10, 2001 "How I Learned to Love the New World Order", by Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr., The Wall Street Journal, April 1992 FULL TEXT: http://www.conspiracyblogger.com/?p=130
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Quote:"Let's look at the real threats we face at home and abroad. Even the Joint Chiefs of Staff say that a strategic nuclear attack is less likely than a regional conflict a major theater of war, terrorist attacks at home or abroad, or any other number of real issues. We have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat, whil the real threat comes to this country in the hold of ship, the belly of a plane, or smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack." -Senator Joe Biden, National Press Club, September 10, 2001 "How I Learned to Love the New World Order", by Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr., The Wall Street Journal, April 1992 FULL TEXT: http://www.conspiracyblogger.com/?p=130 What did Joe know and when did he know it? Communist China owns Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones & Fox News http://piratenews.org/fox-news-owned-by-communist-china.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng "Government control of communications and transportation." -Communist Manifesto, 6th Plank "On Earth-That-Was, the two ruling powers were once known as America and China. And pot was totally legal, though I probably won't stress that. In fact, forget I said it." -Joss Whedon, Serenity: The Official Visual Companion, A Brief History of the Universe circa 2507A.D. "As far as Chinese goes, I resented it." -Adam Tudyk, The Making of Firefly (video censored by youtube) FIREFLY VERSE: Cedric of Bedlam Bards - Hush Little Citizen Lyrics: www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=21027 Video by FireFlyGirl, remix by PirateNews http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7078278113681186118
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:37 AM
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:55 AM
Quote:"Barack Obama is not ready to be president." -Joe Biden, ABC News, August 2007 http://www.nypost.com/seven/08232008/news/nationalnews/mac__joe_said_o_not_fit_for_prez_125686.htm
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Sigh ... I was replying to this: "The first thing FDR did was declare martial law and steal all gold bullion in USA. Expect OBiden to do something similar." Please don't interrupt the grownup conversation.
Quote:DEPRESSION History makes quite clear the existence of the Great Depression. Exactly when it began is subject to debate. However, the fact that Franklin D. Roosevelt became President in March 4, 1933 is not. On Sunday, March 5, 1933, Franklin Roosevelt called for Congress to "convene in extra session" on March 9, 1933 [Proclamation 2038]. On the very next day, he declared, by proclamation, a "bank holiday" which ran from Monday, March 6 through Thursday, March 9, inclusive. In the proclamation he makes some rather interesting claims. He states that "there have been heavy and unwarranted withdrawals of gold and currency . . . for the purpose of hoarding." and this "has resulted in severe a drains on the Nation's stocks of gold : and" "WHEREAS these conditions have created a national emergency; and" He then goes on to refer to "Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, (40 Stat. L, 411) as amended 'That the President may investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of license or otherwise, any transactions in foreign exchange and the export, hoarding, melting, or earmarkings of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency * * *?" Further, "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America in view (f the national emergency and by virtue of the authority vested in me by said Act . . . " (emphasis mine), and declares the "holiday." The "national emergency" that he spoke of was the extension of lending authority granted to the Federal Reserve Bank (FRB) just twenty years before. The FRB was unable to provide, in gold, the deposits on hand. The system of fractional banking had allowed them to extend credit well beyond the available "value" held in trust by the banks. This is the definition of bankrupt, "The state or condition of one who is unable to pay his debts as they are, or become, due." (Black's Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition) Then curiously, on March 9, Roosevelt saw fit to continue the "bank holiday" [Proclamation No. 2040] until further "proclamation" by the President. Perhaps never to be rescinded by said proclamation. Then, on March 9, 1933, Congress passed "AN ACT To provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes." [73rd Congress, Public Law No. 1, March 9, 1933. (Title I, ? 1, 48 Stat. I] (emphasis mine) "That the Congress declares that a serious emergency exists and that it is imperatively necessary speedily to put into effect remedies of uniform national application. " Congress, not to be outdone by the President, passed a joint resolutions which confirmed the existence of the emergency (March 9 Proclamation) and argued that the resolution was necessary, otherwise the payment in gold, of real debts, would "obstruct the power of Congress to regulate the value of the money of the United States." That "every provision contained or made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right to require payment in gold [the Constitution] or a particular kind of coin or currency [gold certificates], or an amount in money of the United States measured thereby; is declared to be against public policy; . . . Every obligation, heretofore or hereafter incurred, whether any such provision is contained therein or made with respect thereto, shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar: in any coin or currency [Federal Reserve Notes] which at the time of payment is legal tender. . ." (emphasis mine) Within the Act they rewrote Section 5(b) of the "Trading with the enemy Act" of 1917. The first sentence is provided, in it's entirety, to give you an idea of the change of mood of the government: 1933, Section 5(b) During time of war or any other period of national emergency declared by the President, That the President may , through any agency that he may designate, or otherwise, investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of licenses or otherwise, any transactions in foreign exchange, export or earmarkings of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, transfers of credit between or payments by banking institutions as defined by the President, and export, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, in any form (other than credits relating solely to transactions to be executed wholly within the United States); and transfers of evidence of indebtedness or of ownership of property between the United States and any foreign country, whether enemy, ally of enemy or otherwise, or between residents of one or more foreign countries, by any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof; and he the President may require any such person engaged in any such transaction referred to in this subdivision to furnish, under oath, complete information relative thereto, including the production of any books of account, contracts, letters or other papers, in connection therewith in the custody or control of .such person, either before or after such transaction is completed..." Let me repeat this as, it has read since 1933: "During time of war or any other period of national emergency declared by the President, the President may, through any agency that he may designate, or otherwise, investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of licenses or otherwise, any transactions in foreign exchange, transfers of credit between or payments by banking institutions as defined by the President, and export, hoarding, melting, or earmarkings of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency by any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof; and the President may require any person engaged in any transaction referred to in this subdivision to furnish under oath, complete information relative thereto, including the production of any books of account, contracts, letters or other papers in connection therewith in the custody or control of .such person, either before or after such transaction is completed " Interestingly, it appears that all reference to "enemy" is deleted, and the law now acts on "any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof" Have WE become the ENEMY? Note, also, that if the President were to issue a "license", the trading would be condoned. Have we been given a "license" to conduct our everyday activities of commerce? Many businesses, along with driving, hunting, fishing, etc., have become "licensed" activities. I leave to you to find the correlation. The question might arise as to whether Roosevelt thought this out by himself The answer is a resounding NO! In a letter and recommended Resolution that Herbert Hoover received from Eugene Meyers, Governor of the Federal Reserve Board, dated March 3, 1933, we find the exact wording incorporated in the Act.' This "advice" was finally followed by Roosevelt just a few days later, just after he was sworn in to office.. It is even more interesting to understand just what happened to all of the gold, at this point. Remember, this was predicated on the fact that the Federal Reserve Banks were unable to pay out the gold for which "certificates" had been issued. But, what happened to the gold? In "The Hoover Policies",' in discussing the affects of the New Deal, "This first contact of the 'money changers' with the New Deal turned those who removed their money from the country a profit of up to 60 per cent when the dollar w as debased [gold was $20 per ounce before, and $32 per ounce after the banking act]." It appears, then, that those "in the know" were able to "remit" their "gold certificates" for gold prior to these Acts. The result was the reduction of assets in the banks to repair those with money on account and the transfer of the real "money", gold, to those who fled the country to profit from the misfortune of most of working America, throwing these working people into a dependency on government that resulted, in 1934, in the establishment of the Social Security Act, the beginning of "The New Deal" and the beginning of the demise of the "Great Experiment." Let's check the validity of what we have just said. From the Congressional Record [March 9, 1933, page 79, by Steagall], "Section 2 confers upon the President the powers bestowed under the act of October 6, 1917, regardless of whether or not the county is involved in war." Later, in that same document [page 82] Mr. McGugin says, "Anyone knows that this Government cannot now collect enough taxes to meet their expenses . . . there is only one thing left for them, and that is to print money. " In a report "Contracts payable in Gold" [Senate Report, Document No. 43, April 17, 1933, Page 9], we read the following statement, "The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called 'ownership' is only by virtue of Government, i. e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State." Well, this appears to be consistent with much that we have learned lately, we own NOTHING, not even our children. To bad they didn't teach this lesson in "government school" history class, after all, this is an official government document, and is obviously what government believes to be true - do you wonder whatever happened to what used to be called a "freeman"? Let's go a bit further on this thread -- the United States Supreme Court said, in United States v. Russell [13 Wall, 623, 627] "Private property, the Constitution provides, shall not be taken for public use without just compensation. . . . Extraordinary and unforeseen occasions arise, however;... in cases of extreme necessity, in time of war or immediate and impending public danger, in which private property may be impressed into public service, or may be seized or appropriated to the public use, or may even be destroyed without the consent of the owner. . . ." It appears that it had taken the Money Merchants just twenty short years to evolve from their first introduction, along with the 16th and 17th amendments, of the Federal Reserve Bank, into the history of the United States, to a position whereby their "currency" (fiat money) was made the "coin of the realm." www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf940524.htm
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:12 AM
Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:52 PM
OUT2THEBLACK
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: The first thing FDR did was declare martial law and steal all gold bullion in USA. Expect OBiden to do something similar. This Banksta BAILout is costing each citizen-slave how much debt? $5-trillion / 260-million = $20,000 per person General Colin Powell said he loves OBiden and USA will be attacked on 20/21 January 2009.
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