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"The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. Using Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate would add another 216,000 deaths, for a total of 999,936 deaths annually. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US."
—Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; Dorothy Smith, PhD, Life Extension Magazine, Death by Medicine, March 2004 (plus 1.5-Million annual aborticides in USA)
www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

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"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
-Ted Turner, founder of CNN News founder of CNN News who was paid $3-billion salary in one day
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/042808_ted_turner.htm

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Mr. News,

Please confine this to one thread, rather than spamming multiple threads with the same data.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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If this issue bothers folk so much they should concentrate on the other end, preventing the unwanted and unwelcome pregnancy in the first place.

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Jews in Jerusalem killing their babies for Molech, before being captured into slavery in Babylon (Iraq)

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV

"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus 18:21-22, Christian Bible KJV


Bush Gang, Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller and Bush's cousin Obama performing "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot tall idol of Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Jewish Bohemian Grove. That's a "live" human body burning as it screams in agony over the loudspeakers. Photo copyright Bohemian Club Corporation annual yearbook

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Dark Secrets Inside Jewish Bohemian Grove and The Order of Death
Two documentaries in one - An employee of Bohemian Grove presidential compound used undercover video to capture the 50-foot-tall idol of Molech and "mock" human sacrifice up close and in broad daylight - Undercover video by Infowars.com
http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Boners at Jewish Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113
http://www.garageband.com/artist/countercoup

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Snuff kiddie porn at Jewish Bohemian Grove
Alex Jones of Infowars.com interviews Senator John DeCamp author of The Franklin Coverup, music by Counter Coup and Bohemian Club
http://one.revver.com/watch/248515
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6497462494231069386

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Do you support Xmas genocide?

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Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives.

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Ahhh...the perfect for your favorite whore this Christmas...

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Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

You are advocating nothing less than flesh and blood harvesting, enforced by Federal Death Squads. Worse than raping women, you would deprive them of the choice of what to do with their bodies for an entire nine month period of their lives. Then, after forcing them with Gestapo jackboot enforcers to provide their very lifeblood to keep someone else alive, you offer nothing to compensate them for that brutality.

Your narrow view of freedom is appalling to me. You want to keep the Federal Goon Squads off of your toes, but would insert their grubby hands into the very bodies of your mothers, sisters, and daughters. This is a most dangerous game you are playing at, and you need to rethink it.

--Anthony



"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Hello Piratenews,

To be very clear on my position, you can not force someone to donate blood, vital organs, or any other part of their body in order to keep someone else alive. Not only can you not morally force them, you can not physically force them. If they don't want to support another human being, they will find ways to avoid it, possibly at great risk to their own lives.

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"Ethicists and emergency medicine experts are raising concerns over New York City's plan to dispatch the first ambulance service in the country equipped to preserve the organs of the newly deceased. They question whether the organ-preserving ambulances will create tension among EMTs who may be charged both to save lives and to preserve organs for reuse. The aim of the Rapid Organ Recovery Ambulance service, city officials say, is to buy precious time for families to decide whether they want their loved ones' organs to be donated to needy patients. New York City plans to start the service rolling within a month. And the plan, which has already received federal funding, is being eyed as a possibility by other emergency medical departments. The services provided by such ambulances -- namely, efforts to save the organs of the newly dead without direct consent -- have some concerns among some experts. 'Will raising organ donation follow pronouncement of death, or will people come to know that the organ donation ambulance has been sent, making them wonder if their relative got a full press of rescue care?' said Arthur Caplan, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. 'This is called violating the dead donor rule -- no organ donation [discussion] raised prior to pronouncement of death.' Far more troubling is the idea that emergency medical personnel staffing the ambulances could be faced with a dilemma of either doing everything possible to save a patient, or acting with the chief interest of saving organs. 'If it is an ambulance for the living or the dead, you run into an ethical dilemma,' O'Brien said. 'The ambulance has an obligation to the people of their service area to go back into service after a call, as soon as possible. This sounds like they may be tied up transporting and working on literally a deceased person, and not be available for others.' Mehlman adds that some may worry whether the responders on such an ambulance would be under any pressure to stop trying to revive a patient in order to begin saving his or her organs."
—Dan Childs, ABC News Medical Unit, Ethicists Debate Ambulance for Organs - Some Worry New York City Plan Could Give Living Patients the Short Shrift, May 9, 2008
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"AUSTIN, Texas (KXAN) -- Three days after Marble Falls police took their first driving while intoxicated suspect to the hospital armed with a search warrant for a blood draw, Seton Highland Lakes Medical Center in Burnet announced they will no longer adhere to the court order. "There were some issues," said Capt. Roger Sooter, with the Marble Falls Police Department. "But the draw was made, then we received the letter from the administrator." Seton Highland Lakes Medical Center Administrator, Scott Fuller, wrote a letter to city and county officials Oct. 6 that stated "effective immediately, the Highland Lakes Medical Center will not draw specimens under a search warrant. Please do not transport persons to the hospital for that purpose." Marble Falls police had just launched the new DWI blood warrant program for Burnet County. All county and district judges agreed to sign off on search warrants requiring a blood test when a suspect refuses a breath test. "We do not understand [Seton's] stance," said Burnet County Judge Donna Klaeger. Klaeger e-mailed a letter to Fuller and Seton's legal counsel, questioning the hospital's position. As of Monday, neither the county, nor the Marble Falls Police Department had received an explanation. "We asked them to provide us the legality of being able to say no to a court order," said Klaeger. Monday afternoon, Greg Hartman, the Senior Vice President of the Seton Family of Hospitals e-mailed a statement explaining their position. Hartman said "there is a conflict in state law." Hartman wrote "there are other situations where it is questionable whether a licensed hospital can draw blood from a person without an order from a qualified practitioner to draw blood or consent is obtained directly from the suspect without coercion." Some of the issues involved distinctions between privately-owned versus county and other types of hospitals. Monday, Seton said they will only draw blood under a search warrant if a person is arrested, caused an accident that resulted in injuries or death due to alcohol, and they refuse a voluntary blood test. In the meantime, Burnet County law enforcement officials can take DWI suspects who refuse a breath test to Llano Memorial Hospital in Llano."
—KXAN TV, Hospital refuses to draw blood for police cases, Oct 16, 2008
www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=9171087&rnd=16.187497831542885


www.piratenews.org/theprohibitiontimes.html

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Nah - that'd mean that they'd actually have to TALK to kids about sex, in something other than the "just say no" sense. Can't have that, can we? And what better message to give to your children? "Okay, Junior - it's time you knew about sex. It's where children come from, but it's evil. Don't do it. And don't ask how you got here, either. Mommy and Daddy are evil, and so are every other parent in the world, but don't you be evil."

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Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....

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Why doesn't that surprise me? Got your wife/girlfriend/mom/sister/aunt one of these gift certificates huh? I can see why they wouldn't want to bring your demon seed into this world.....

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Congratulations.

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Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Appreciate you giving in with some dignity (or not, but who gives a fuck?).

Sometimes, I just HAVE to knock a little sense into the self-righteous, wanna-be, pretender know-it-alls, around here.

Keeps them humble, and gives them a little humility.

Anyways...

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Instead of an expensive gift card, just send her a wire coat hanger. You get them free from the dry cleaners, put a pretty bow on it.

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Is that supposed to be amusing? Because it is crass and disgusting.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Rape removes a woman's control over her body for minutes or hours.

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I'll just stop and concede it - you have won the contest for who can be most vile.

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By your example having your arm chopped off is less of a harm then slowly pulling off a bandaid.

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Thats all well and good. For those services Ive got nothing against PP...

However, they also toss out abortions like they do condomns.

Now, its not that I am against abortions, or those who provide them. I am against, as in my earlier post, using abortions as birth control.

When you start hitting your 3rd abortion, maybe its time to reconsider what you are doing with you life...

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