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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
The only reason Kissinger is still alive is that Satan fears a coup attempt if he takes the old bastard.

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The only reason Kissinger is still alive is that Satan fears a coup attempt if he takes the old bastard.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
NWO is a term used to refer to the globalist agenda, it is not a conspiracy theory.

...They are in no way theory, and whether or not they are conspiracy is a matter of opinion.

...I tend to think of them as a political movement, a new form of global socialism that became dominant in US politics in the 1970s.
To say that globalism is a conspiracy theory is like saying that communism is a conspiracy theory...There is some truth in that, but not a lot of speculation.

The NWO crowd has published thousands of volumes on the new world order and globalism, which is why it caught on.

A lot of conspiracy theorists now use NWO as a catch all, simply because it's a nice shortcut. I think that a group of people engaged in anti-american activities and wielding a tremendous amount of power being called a conspiracy theory is very dangerous. It implies their non-existance, which they would now love to imply.

A prominent one of late is CFR. Skull and Bones is a NWO group, but they're more servants than leaders. They exist to serve themselves and make a buck, they're the ones who used the phrase too much, and made people drop it. GHW Bush used it incessantly.

These groups are shapeshifting, changing parties, countries, and organizations. If the CFR gets too much in the spotlight, they'll all shuffle over and form a new group. But again, it's not a united front. It's a lot of people who believe in one world under one govt. with absolute authority...

Essentially, planet walmart. It's undoubtedly the ultimate enemy of individualism.

But just because there are globalist democrats and globalist republicans and globalist communists, who all have a common origin in a split in the communist party, doesn't mean they are one group. It does mean that there interests will coincide from time to time, and bad things will result.

If someone supports this idea, and likes firefly, they're either disconnected, or they were just rooting for the alliance. This is one of the core things that firefly is about. This idea that there might be a central authority one day that would try to turn us all into cookie cutter molds of whatever served the state. This is why Joss has it as a western-chinese alliance, because it's the only way he sees it as being possible. Already he's being proven prescient on that.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
out2theblack

well put. That's what I need to learn to do, get the message across in fewer words.

It's like in graphic arts. The novice thinks that he has to draw every single line in order to make the image, when really a few prominent strokes will do the job. Often better.

[edit] Buyer beware?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just as Joss foresaw...... amazing.

So, which dialect of Chinese do we start learnin'?




It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Most languages in China belong to the Sino-Tibetan language family, spoken by 29 ethnicities. There are also several major dialects within the Chinese language itself. The most spoken dialects are Mandarin (spoken by over 70% of the population), Wu, Yue (Cantonese), Min, Xiang, Gan, and Hakka. Non-Sinitic languages spoken widely by ethnic minorities include Zhuang (Thai), Mongolian, Tibetan, Uyghur (Turkic), Hmong and Korean.[23]

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
NWO is a term used to refer to the globalist agenda, it is not a conspiracy theory. Globalists used the term for basically the whole last century, until people started attacking it. Then they ditched it.

Who the globalists are is a trotsky socialist movement that grew out of a split in the communist party. They take heavily after the original one worlders, but with some different internationalist ideas.

They are in no way theory, and whether or not they are conspiracy is a matter of opinion. I tend to think of them as a political movement, a new form of global socialism that became dominant in US politics in the 1970s. They've only really since tried their hands at being republicans, but it never goes well, usually they are democrats, but they exist on both sides of the aisle.

To say that globalism is a conspiracy theory is like saying that communism is a conspiracy theory, or that al qaeda is. There is some truth in that, but not a lot of speculation. The NWO crowd has published thousands of volumes on the new world order and globalism, which is why it caught on.

A lot of conspiracy theorists now use NWO as a catch all, simply because it's a nice shortcut. I think that a group of people engaged in anti-american activities and wielding a tremendous amount of power being called a conspiracy theory is very dangerous. It implies their non-existance, which they would now love to imply.

NWO of course is not a united group, but then neither are other commies, and neither is al qaeda. there are lots of globalists who have used the phrase and believe in one world govt., dissolution of national sovereignty, etc.

A prominent one of late is CFR. Skull and Bones is a NWO group, but they're more servants than leaders. They exist to serve themselves and make a buck, they're the ones who used the phrase too much, and made people drop it. GHW Bush used it incessantly.

These groups are shapeshifting, changing parties, countries, and organizations. If the CFR gets too much in the spotlight, they'll all shuffle over and form a new group. But again, it's not a united front. It's a lot of people who believe in one world under one govt. with absolute authority. Essentially, planet walmart. It's undoubtedly the ultimate enemy of individualism.

But just because there are globalist democrats and globalist republicans and globalist communists, who all have a common origin in a split in the communist party, doesn't mean they are one group. It does mean that there interests will coincide from time to time, and bad things will result.

The way China dismantled tibet, canton, uygar, etc. and is trying to replace it with a clone of the commie govt., that's basically what the globalists want to do to the world.

My own personal conspiracy theory, I call them Rockefeller, Rothschild and Company. The reason is that globalist institutions almost always get their funding from either the Rockefellers or the Rothschilds.

If someone supports this idea, and likes firefly, they're either disconnected, or they were just routing for the alliance. This is one of the core things that firefly is about. This idea that there might be a central authority one day that would try to turn us all into cookie cutter molds of whatever served the state. This is why Joss has it as a western-chinese alliance, because it's the only way he sees it as being possible. Already he's being proven precient on that.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I miss DREAMTROVE.

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