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Iconoclast

POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
UPDATED: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:28
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Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:19 PM

DREAMTROVE


Okay. I've yacked with many of you on and off for a long time. Here's something which still gets in my way. Avatars. I just picked one, but I think that we should logically separate. I'd be in favor of men being men and women being women, but I'm going to hold on to Saphron until the women give.

But more importantly, we need individual icons. You can specify an outside image, so if two people want to be Jayne Cobb or River Tam, There's no limit of images.

Here's why I think it's an issue. Even knowing you as I do, I get comments confused because the face I put to a name has more than one name. This leads me to confuse comments by multiple users who are using the same icon.

Picture an offline world full of twins who always dressed alike. Now picture that the presidential election was between mary kate and ashley olsen. You see how confusing this can get? Now imagine that different people in the same party were also twins, and dressed alike, but didn't hold the identical views. Would you have trouble telling them apart?

Just confusing is all.


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Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:29 PM

WHOZIT


What do I look like to you? I'm cute rite

I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin

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Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:54 PM

OUT2THEBLACK




Here's to Individuality...and Independence !

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Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:54 PM

DREAMTROVE


Whozit

Your signature line, as I mentioned many times, discredits everything you say. Some of your points may be perfectly valid, but you seem to deliberately invoke self ridicule. It's like you intend to have no one respond to comments your threads. To paraphrase the stone roses, it's like your themesong is "I want to be ignored"

You should take a minute and think about this.

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Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:46 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Actually Niska is a kinder, gentler avatar than the character I'd be usin otherwise.

Lucy.
From Elfen Lied.

-F

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Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:48 PM

DREAMTROVE


o2tb

Always drink to that.

Now how will we settle this with the rivers and the jaynes? I think that due to our own philosophy, they should decide, rather than have us thunderdome them, but they should want to individualize.

I suppose the incentive is look who else has your icon, and if you don't want to have your comments confused with theirs, then change your logo.


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Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:20 PM

DREAMTROVE



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Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:55 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I have a whole section of my photobucket devoted to Firefly avatars, and I'm happy to take requests. Such as, for Frem,

If folks can host them themselves, that's great, but if not they can leach a little of my bandwidth.
Also happy to point anyone who doesn't know how to get an image in their tagline in the right direction. There's a full tutorial on the subject.

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Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, I AM kinda unhappy with my avatar. it's not me as much as my alter ego. But I haven't put much work/ thought into individualizing. PhoenixRose, where's that website?

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:08 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:44 AM

DREAMTROVE


Thanks, PHOENIXROSE, you're preforming a valuable service.

Signy, yes, that's part of the problem. Also, I find it confusing with Frem and Mike, one of them should change. But at points it becomes absurd, like with the "bullies" thread, when the Jaynes start getting into it.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:14 AM

DREAMTROVE


Oh, and if you have firefly on blu-ray (is there such a thing?) or some higher resolution file and feel the urge to take that River Wakes image and make a wallpaper out of it :)

Would be appreciated :) I'll be in my bunk. No bagel. Bagels are for eating. I like bagels. I resent the abuse they have suffered here, and their bad press, not from Ohlmert, but Family Guy.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:50 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Thanks, PHOENIXROSE, you're preforming a valuable service.

Signy, yes, that's part of the problem. Also, I find it confusing with Frem and Mike, one of them should change. But at points it becomes absurd, like with the "bullies" thread, when the Jaynes start getting into it.




Better?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:25 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Happy to do it. Avatars are fairly quick and easy if I have the right image

I'm not positive which 'River Wakes' you're referring to, but you might find what you're looking for here: http://www.leavemethewhite.com/caps/thumbnails.php?album=73&page=12


Mike, your Niska is showing

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


It is? On my screen, I have a wonderful little lovable SniperKitty...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:37 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


LOL, I could see both for a bit there, seems to have cleared up now.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Woo-hoo!

Glad it's working now.

And thanks a ton for the tips and tutorial.




Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:45 AM

DREAMTROVE


Mike,

Great new avatar.

Couldn't hope but notice that you got into the middle of the war. I mean the River-Signy thing, not the Israeli-Palestine thing. That wasn't a smart move. Not liable to catch you any tail, just some stray snipes. :)

Okay, there was as much kitten sniper fodder as i could put into that. It's the cutest thing I've seen since this:


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Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:01 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Mike,

Great new avatar.

Couldn't hope but notice that you got into the middle of the war. I mean the River-Signy thing, not the Israeli-Palestine thing. That wasn't a smart move. Not liable to catch you any tail, just some stray snipes. :)

Okay, there was as much kitten sniper fodder as i could put into that. It's the cutest thing I've seen since this:



.



Thanks, DT. We aim to please. Get it? :)

On the whole River/Signy thing, I just felt like yanking Reaver's chain a bit, using her own logic and words. Also, I don't mind deflecting fire from Signy a bit; she's covered me plenty of times in the past.

What most people don't get about me is that, at the end of the day, I tend to just drop in and snipe at folks' preconceived notions a bit, in order to get them to think about what they're saying from another point of view. Or, as DeepGirl said a long time ago in another thread, get them to see what it would be like to "live on the other side of the now."

Like Frem, I rather enjoy tossing a wrench into the works now and again, to see if the works really... ya know, WORK.

I find it amusing how quickly the social order breaks down. Amusing and... disturbing at the same time.




Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:37 PM

DREAMTROVE


Mike

People and society are loosely put together. you can see this happen in govt. and in the corporate world just as easily, so it's not that we're a bunch of crackheads.

But it's true that you share some characteristics with Frem, which while not enough to confuse the two of you, enough that one of you might do something and I could misremember it as the other, which was one of the instances of avatar confusion that lead me to this thread. (no shortage of rivers and jaynes, and a few too many books.)

As for the image, I like the kitten. I threw in Mathilda because I thought after throwing enough well deserved daggers at Ohlmert, I thought I'd vote in favor of an Israeli I really like :)

As for River vs. Signy, it would be easy to side with the long term member over the newbie, easier than just siding with the fellow conservative over the liberal, but I was trying not to take sides. After Signy went off the deep end, I felt that there was no saving the situation, and the sooner they get over it the better. Least said, soonest mended.

The only other comment would be "If those two don't kill each other soon, I might just lend a hand." :)

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:14 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And thanks a ton for the tips and tutorial.


My pleasure Graphic media is kind of... my life.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Heya, been busy today, but I'm gonna get to the tutorial soon.

Thanks PR!!

Mike, you're a crackup! I've always enjoyed reading your posts.

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Monday, January 12, 2009 1:47 AM

FREMDFIRMA


The problem with changing mine is that I would have to supply a live email address, which I won't - the addy this username has been dead for years now.

-F

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Monday, January 12, 2009 4:00 AM

DREAMTROVE


FREM

There are anonymous email servers on the web. Besides, No one is tracking down our govt'l elements, I'm sure they'll ignore our criminal ones ;)

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Monday, January 12, 2009 4:22 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I'd be in favor of men being men and women being women...


Don't ask, don't tell.

H

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Monday, January 12, 2009 6:56 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


No, Frem, all you have to do to change your avatar is put the html in the tagline. Requesting one from Haken is generally no longer an option. You can leach off my photobucket if you don't want to get one of your own. Or keep Niska if you don't want that Lucy, since Mike changed his.

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Monday, January 12, 2009 9:55 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Oh, okay then... see I thought I was gonna have to bother Haken, which I'd rather not.

Not, as for the slip into tagline thing, can I get that in captain dummy talk ?
I gots a photobucket, which I do use, just never connected how to make an Avatar work that way - or you do like, nuke the one you have and slip it in before the post or what ?

-Frem

EDIT: Oh wait, I think I see, lemme dump some gerbils into the enclosure and shake it....

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Monday, January 12, 2009 10:13 AM

FREMDFIRMA


There we go, all better now.

-F

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Monday, January 12, 2009 12:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Never Mind - You got it!


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