Sexism still alive and kicking

it's in general

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:00 PM

it's in general

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:48 PM

America loves a winner!

Oh dear lord...... not again !

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:19 AM

PARTICIPANT

This is why Joss fails with all his liberalism, feminism and Buffyisms inside his tv shows. It's impossible to keep those fan groups happy

Despite Joss trying to keep his liberal team mates content, there are some who are just too radical and militant and they will still turn on him

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:56 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I think I posted this link a while ago. Apparently its been around for a while.

The chick who wrote this is just sad.

I can really get off on a rant here about "feminism" ect...but it would take too long and be too draining.

Suffice to say, this "womyn" needs a shave, a bath, to get laid (BY A MAN), and to STFU and go fix me a sandwich.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:09 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Also, her pages have the smell of a hoax to them. However, if they are true...this little bit from one of her "blogs" is very telling.

"Just in case it wasn’t already really obvious from the way I write and the things I have to say I want to make it totally clear: I DON’T BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH. I don’t believe that people have a right to say whatever they want, whenever they want to. I especially do not think that peoples in privileged groups have the right to hate speech against oppressed peoples."

http://allecto.wordpress.com/

What a c*nt.

Edit: After I reread what she had posted...I don't think I will self edit..

To repeat: ahem..

WHAT A CUNT.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:13 AM

I know some extreme feminists, even ones who have taken issue with firefly on this level, so I'm very ready to believe that it's not a hoax.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

I guess if you spin it through the right filters, you really CAN see anything.

From the moment I discovered Buffy for myself, I've been convinced that Joss is still, to this day, utterly in awe of the power of adolescent girls and young women.

Take a look at Serenity - Who saves them in the end? It's River - a young girl, badly abused and damaged, yet STILL stronger than any of the he-man warriors around her, and WAY stronger and smarter than any gang of Reavers. That's power, folks, and it's Joss's way of saying that the most put-upon of girls still possesses more power in her little finger than a battalion of men.

How is that NOT feminist?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:47 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Feminism, racism, environmentalism, veganism....its all the same damn "ism".

Which is just another way of saying your "group", whatever, whomever it is, is better than everyone else, and is the most put-upon in the whole goddamned universe.

I say, FUCK THAT WHINY SHIT.

So, to all the feminists, racists, and every other "ist" out there...heres one for you

Shut the fuck up,

and

Have a bagel.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:43 AM

America loves a winner!

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I know some extreme feminists, even ones who have taken issue with firefly on this level, so I'm very ready to believe that it's not a hoax.

Certainly there are some extreme examples of militant types, but those are who Rush would refer to as "Feminazis". The extreme of the extreme.

What makes me think this piece is a hoax are the excessive modifiers and over the top hyperbole "I’m not sure that I will recover from the shock of.." . And then there's THIS gem...

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Zoe runs around calling Mal ‘sir’ and taking orders off him. I roll my eyes. Not a good start.

Anyone who saw the entire pilot would immediatly understand that Mal and Zoe served in the war, and Mal was her superior in that war. Oh dear god, I did it myself! Mal was her " SUPERIOR " ??? HOW SEXIST OF ME !

What obviously is meant by Zoe calling Mal "sir" is to relay the context of their relationship, the fact they have a military background, and more specifically, that Zoe served under Mal. CRAP! I just did it again! She "served under" him ? I guess that means Mal was ON TOP of her, mounting her with orders ? Damn....how sexist of me ! I can't stop!!

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:54 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

AND.......dont forget the shape/design of Serenity....!

The ship was flying through space, RAPING THE COSMOS!!

OH THE HUMFEMITY!

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:23 AM

BYTEMITE

What about feminist environmentalist atheist vegans who mind their own business? Any problems with those here? >_>

I choose those things for me, not to force or guilt anyone else into being them. My family eats meat and eggs and dairy products, and that's okay. I understand some people like the taste of them and that they're healthful, natural food sources.

And I understand guys being annoyed by feminists too. I want to slap some of them myself.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:31 AM

If the Thorax gets to them first, then Serenity is left with sloppy seconds

Wulf, of course you're right, that's how these groups sell themselves:

1. You are a group
2. You are better than everyone else
3. We are the group of you
4. We have the philosophy that leads you to the freedom (read supremacy) you so richly deserve (usually by birth.)
5. Ergo, it is your duty as a member of "group" to join "us" and follow our rules, accept our leadership, and attach our ism to your name.

Thank you, you've now been recruited.

Bill Clinton: Every regime is eventually brought down by some ism or other

Jon Stewart: Yes, your regime was almost brought down by j- ism

Rap

We all use the language of hyperbole though, sarcastic and non. The fact is, as much as I hate Rush, I used that term for a while, it fits their recruitment. Then I read the early works of feminists, and they go further in that direction.

Oh, and an aside to what annoys me about Rush, actually, pundits in general: They whine. They bitch and moan and complain. I'd like to here Rush say "You know what's really great about Barack Obama, or Fidel Castro, etc.

This comes from a lifetime of knowing people like this, always on the attack, always on the negative. And it's not limited to Rush, for the most part, I can't stand the lot of them.

So, when I say something like that, it's not a personal attack, it's just an attitude problem, mine or theirs, I'm not sure, but it's the sort of thing that annoys me.

That said, he is right on this one: Feminism was always about eugenics and population control. It was never about female empowerment. If anything, it was about female enslavement: Remove the sexual, one of the powers they possess, and put them to work in the factory, like the rest of us, that will reduce the cost of labor, and make sure that no one except mommy govt. public school and papa television is raising the kids.

Oh, and the kids. Almost all feminist and PC policies, looked at through the right lens, can translate as this:

No more babies.

If people looked closely at who was behind these movements and why... It's so much worse that anyone thinks. Oh, and attempting to control a population to prevent it from reproducing, you'll find that in the UN charter under genocide.

The female empowerment crowd, as I keep saying, has to distance itself from these gals. I have a friend who's a lesbian professor. She teaches the hatred of men, and runs her colleges wymyn's alliance. She does it for one reason: it's her dating pool. They think she is their savior, saving them from a life of oppression and men. They're not all gay, not to start with, they hold out for that one man who doesn't have a single male characteristic, henceforth known as "evil." If that fails, either they become gay, or they just end up straight and childless.

Everyone does it, I don't know how many times I've had to give myself a good swift kick in the rear lifelong, but we all end up supporting something that exists to chain us and hate us. No one ever wants to hear it.

Rap, I can tell you about a couple of things that would make you have serious doubts, I can see them because I'm not you, but I couldn't convince you, so I'll just let you look for them. I probably still have some myself, things that are anti-me that I follow or believe in, but I've been doing my best to root them out.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:59 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"What about feminist environmentalist atheist vegans who mind their own business? Any problems with those here? >_>

I choose those things for me, not to force or guilt anyone else into being them. My family eats meat and eggs and dairy products, and that's okay. I understand some people like the taste of them and that they're healthful, natural food sources.

And I understand guys being annoyed by feminists too. I want to slap some of them myself."

See? Thats the whole point. You mind your own fucking business. You can disagree with me, just as I can disagree with you, but so long as neither of us tries to force our opinion on the other, or force us to change our lives, then its cool.

But these feminazis do. The veganists do. The atheists do. Just as Im sure the ultra-right wingnuts do.

Its the initiation of force I hate. I can think you are a fucking idiot, but so long as I don't try to change you, then its ok.

There is also a major problem of our society. We've forgotten how to be polite. How to keep our mouths shut. AND when its the right time to open them.

Plus the fact that we are all so inlove with ourselves that we think we are the ONLY ones who are right.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:28 AM

CITIZEN

It's not really feminist though is it. Feminism is about empowering women so that they can live the life they want. This loony toon isn't feminist, she's a female version of the misogynists she claims to hate so much. Unless a Woman is a radical man hating lesbian just like her, well then that Women is just bad and wrong. In fact, she's worse than your average misogynist.

Atheists force their views on other people? No more and probably less than your average Christian, Muslim, Jew, whatever.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:30 AM

BYTEMITE

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

That said, he is right on this one: Feminism was always about eugenics and population control. It was never about female empowerment. If anything, it was about female enslavement: Remove the sexual, one of the powers they possess, and put them to work in the factory, like the rest of us, that will reduce the cost of labor, and make sure that no one except mommy govt. public school and papa television is raising the kids.

Oh, and the kids. Almost all feminist and PC policies, looked at through the right lens, can translate as this:

No more babies.

If people looked closely at who was behind these movements and why... It's so much worse that anyone thinks. Oh, and attempting to control a population to prevent it from reproducing, you'll find that in the UN charter under genocide.

The female empowerment crowd, as I keep saying, has to distance itself from these gals. I have a friend who's a lesbian professor. She teaches the hatred of men, and runs her colleges wymyn's alliance. She does it for one reason: it's her dating pool. They think she is their savior, saving them from a life of oppression and men. They're not all gay, not to start with, they hold out for that one man who doesn't have a single male characteristic, henceforth known as "evil." If that fails, either they become gay, or they just end up straight and childless.

Everyone does it, I don't know how many times I've had to give myself a good swift kick in the rear lifelong, but we all end up supporting something that exists to chain us and hate us. No one ever wants to hear it.

Rap, I can tell you about a couple of things that would make you have serious doubts, I can see them because I'm not you, but I couldn't convince you, so I'll just let you look for them. I probably still have some myself, things that are anti-me that I follow or believe in, but I've been doing my best to root them out.

That certainly has been an unfortunate result of the feminist movement. You think the movement was founded with that intent in mind? If so, who was the founder who has been manipulating the movement in this direction? I don't know much about the origins, and I'd be interested to hear your take on it.

The only reason I consider myself feminist is because I think women should be able to have their voices heard in the political arena (by voting or through debate), that they should be allowed to work and support themselves, and that they shouldn't be dismissed as inferior in body, mind, or reason without good cause. The man-hating nonsense is ridiculous.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15 AM

America loves a winner!

Camille Paglia is a true femenist. One who defies the likes of Gloria Steinem and Patricia Ireland. She'll even partake of a fine cigar, and, unlike Monica Lewinsky, knows how to treat it.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15 AM

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You think the movement was founded with that intent in mind? If so, who was the founder who has been manipulating the movement in this direction? I don't know much about the origins, and I'd be interested to hear your take on it.

Everyone in any group movement has their own agenda, but a lot of this early stuff comes from two groups: fascists and lesbians. The fascists, Margaret Sanger and her Scottish counterpart I keep forgetting the name, anyway, had a eugenics program for population control. They advocated early on in the 20th c. policies like abortion, birth control, child-limitation policies, sterilization, to keep down the populations of the "undesirables" These people were icons of the later lesbian feminist crowd, who saw man-ization, and man-hating as reducing the competition. What these people say in their writing is manipulative, even when they're being straightforward about the underlying fascism, they're saying "and you should adhere to this because it's good for you." Hence, having children late, preferably for them, too late.

Recruiting through universities became essential, since the group doesn't reproduce very well. Starry eyed pupils swallow it long enough to not have children. Initially there was a lot of talk about "the negro threat" and the out of control growth of the "undesirables" described as ignorant poverty stricken hordes of European immigrants that breed like rabbits.

But no movement succeeds on its merits, it always has to have a push by power groups who want it to succeed. Here's where I think the more sinister comes in:

People who wanted several things:

1. The Rockefeller agenda, which is, and has been, to reduce the world population to 1 billion. This is what they figure is controllable. Whether it's based on ecologically sustainable or simply management, it's lead to a lot of anti-life and pro-death, and a creed they still hold to. The job has gotten much harder for them then it used to be, as the population grows. (Israel is pretty openly saying that they want a reform of Islam because it produces too many children, and they're already outnumbered.) And the Rockefellers have stated their agenda many times.

2. Labor market. Increase the labor pool, and ultimately the military labor pool, makes labor cheaper, doubles the workforce.

3. Nanny state. The hand that rocks the cradle is real. And the state wants to be that hand at every turn.

Reading about this stuff we such an eye opener for me. I was actually tipped off to it by a woman who had been a feminist, and had become the dateless monster, and had read back.

I can think of no better expose to destroy feminism than a blatantly honest history, which I hopefully will someday have the time to compile. I say compile, rather than write, because their own words are far more destructive than anything I could say.

The same goes for the neocons, and other nefarious movements.

Oh, and just because feminism says it's about female empowerment, doesn't mean it is. Women's role in society has fluctuated many times. It was higher ie, more freedom of career, advancement, etc. before feminism began than it was when Women's Lib hit. Women's lib of course, took them out of the home and into the factory. This is hardly liberation. "Equal rights" has always been touted by communists: Yes, you are all equal, you are all slaves. we can kill you if we want, you have no value.

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The only reason I consider myself feminist is because I think women should be able to have their voices heard in the political arena (by voting or through debate),

But is anyone's voice really heard? I think the whole system is a sham. IMHO

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that they should be allowed to work and support themselves, and that they shouldn't be dismissed as inferior in body, mind, or reason without good cause.

is working freedom? or slavery? If you rewind before the liberation of women, women could choose, there wasn't that much of an issue. But they didn't have to work, as labor prices were higher, because only 1/2 the population worked. I, personally, don't want to see a return of that, because I think that system oppressed and enslaved men, and women had the high life. As a man, I'm glad they sacrificed what they had so I could be free. I thought it was moronic, and they were manipulated, but yes, I would not undo it.

But I would like to expose these people for who they are. I have so much to write and work on, that I'm going to withdraw from the forum. I'll be here, to lurk and comment, but really, it's been eating up time. I find these discussions interesting, but to do your question justice, I would have to present you with a text.

My main projects are just personal organization and communication. My own projects have failed to meet what I would have liked, and so I've essentially chosen isolation to work on these. But it's too easy to fall in to debating online, etc. Reasons why I'm not reading the car thread. Lots of interesting info there. I have to prioritize. Communication and organization. Then, I will go to work on summarizing influential work.

One thing that I admire about the Tao te Ching is its Hofferism. I've read the bible through twice, and it's a mess. 800,000 words of redundancy, irrelevence, with probably 8,000 quotable meaningful words. Maybe 80,000. I had thought, oh, I could trim this down, but then I got into it here, antimason was on a quest for the *original* texts, that proved more intersting, and eventually, it's too massive a project. I might make a community to do that, but that would take organization, communication, so that's where I'm starting.

ATM, our society is stuck with "everyone go real all the text yourself" but really, most of all text is people holding forth and examples to reiterate and illustrate points. Even Dale Carnegie, who I think did great work on communication, could be reduced to 1,000 words. A society that had all of its influences, not just the wisdom, but the fallacies too, in that form, would be able to have immense power.

So, I wouldn't just take the useful self help wisdom, I'd take the trash too: and just cut out the waste. I have a hundred thousand word report from Dick Cheney, from about 20 years ago, outlying a plan to invade Iraq. It was made at the pentagon, and Cheney, the pompous ass, sounds like his thinks he's planning the D-Day invasion. He has maps with big arrows like WwII, how he's going to crush evil, and endless rants, just page after page.

When I master those arts, this post will be able 250 words :)

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:18 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Oh, and the kids. Almost all feminist and PC policies, looked at through the right lens, can translate as this: No more babies.

Yanno, for peeps who claim to believe in libertarianism and self-interest as the guiding light of society, that paradigm comes to a screeching halt when it comes to women. Suddenly, women aren't supposed to have any self-interest?

Look at it from my perspective: How does it advatange ME to have a child? I'm professionally sidelined for at least five years while I juggle child-care and job. I get to delay a lot of sleep and a lot of fun while I play patty-cake with a moron (children ARE cute, but face it... not very stimulating). If I'm not working and depend on my husband and he's a rat-bastard, then I'm more than professionaly sidelined... I'm trapped in an abusive relationship. And in THIS society, since money equals power as typical woman I have less power than the typical man.

So, can you give me one selfish reason to have a kid? If not...

Well then, you're hoisted on your own petard, aren't you?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:36 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Wow...

Sig, as usual, I can't tell if you are being snarky, or you actually believe what you just posted..

I mean, I know some folks here are notorious for snarking a thread just to watch the fur fly...but still?

However, if that is the intent, then allow me to snark back...

"So, can you give me one selfish reason to have a kid? If not..."

No, I can't. So, please, don't breed. Please, with a cherry on top, don't breed. Don't adopt either. In fact, just leave kids alone, period.

Actually, Im starting to like this feminism more and more. Those that truly believe in it, will not be able to pass on their teaching/genes/stupidity/assclownery (cuz they are lesbian...or are just too damn fugly).

So I say to all you passionate feminists, to all you oppressed Radical womyn....Don't breed! It will just tie you down to do so! Do not contribute to the next generation at all! In fact, go off to another land and start your own colony! Leave us heathens, and rapist men, behind! GO! (...and dont breed of course, for the love of God, dont breed!)

(Hopefully by the time of MY grandchildren, we will have bred you, and your ilk, out.)

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:43 AM

BYTEMITE

Yeah... kids. I'm not into that either. The pregnancy thing is kind of gross and traumatic, I've thought that ever since I was three. And monkeys might have wide enough hips for child-birth, but I sure don't, thanks to that whole two-legged walking thing. And I'm pretty sure it requires a second person, which ain't happening.

I'm going to start reading about this Margaret Sanger, she sounds like a nasty piece of work. Maybe I'll try to engage some of the more militant ones in a discourse afterward.

The system is inconsistent, when it comes to letting people be heard. Sometimes you have to force it, sometimes if the politic puppet masters decree it, it works for you. And voting is pretty much a joke, you can only vote on the things the government lets you. But outside the system... There's always civil disobedience, and if you manage to organize the public, we get heard no matter how hard they try to shut you down.

Hope to see you around, DT. :(

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:51 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Do not contribute to the next generation at all!

So, in other words... you don't have a self-serving reason why women should have children. They're supposed to do it for your benefit or for the benefit of "society"? Spread your legs, think of England, eh?

If you're REALLY interested in raising the next generation properly, I suggest that you adopt a child. There are plenty of children who need a good home (Not sure that you would qualify but- what the hell- YOU might learn something!). Spend the next two years feeding, cleaning, burping, and worrying over baby, potty-training and teaching him/her to talk, the following decade helping with homework, working the knots out of social relationships, teaching sports and a little responsibility, then listen to them cry about how "nobody loves them".

And if you're REALLY lucky, you'll get a kid with soft neurological signs or chronic illness and then you can spend several days every month in doctor's office or hospital or with therapists. Better still, why not take in a "total care" kid?

AND IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE JOB... WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE BE?

Wulf, you are one supremely self-centered dude, yanno that?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:52 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"This is why Joss fails with all his liberalism, feminism and Buffyisms inside his tv shows. It's impossible to keep those fan groups happy

Despite Joss trying to keep his liberal team mates content, there are some who are just too radical and militant and they will still turn on him ..."

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First it's ALL and then it's SOME. This is a confused argument, probably from a confused person.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:53 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"Suffice to say, this "womyn" needs a shave, a bath, to get laid (BY A MAN), and to STFU and go fix me a sandwich."

Pretty hate-filled, as Wulf usually is to women (and minorities).

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

"Sir" can be used to identify anyone, regardless of relative rank. In the military, it is NOT a sign of respect to call someone Sir, since that is under duress of going to jail.

Sometimes Sir is a sign of contempt or sarcasm. In which case it's more a symbol of equality.

My first boss was a flight instructor and FBO operator at a local airport. He called ME Sir, when I was 12 years old mopping floors and sweeping the hanger. The Sir part was the best part of the crappy job. He died with a student during flight training, while simulating power failure on one engine during final approach to landing. Stalls at low altitude are killer.

This chick needs a penis transplant and daily testosterone injections. Then she can pretend to be the man she always wanted to be.

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Gay fag sodomites steal kids from grandparents who are "too old"

UK Kidnap Services say grandparents "too old" at age 46 and 59!

SCOTLAND - They agreed to an adoption only after they faced being financially crippled by legal bills.

The final blow came when they were told the children were going to a gay household, even though several heterosexual couples wanted them.

When the grandfather protested, he was told: 'You can either accept it, and there's a chance you'll see the children twice a year, or you can take that stance and never see them again.'

The man said last night: 'It breaks my heart to think that our grandchildren are being forced to grow up in an environment without a mother figure. We are not prejudiced, but I defy anyone to explain to us how this can be in their best interests.'

Social workers themselves have admitted that the little girl is 'more wary' of men than women.

Adoption by gay couples in Scotland was approved by MSPs in 2006 - despite an official consultation process which showed that nearly 90 per cent of people opposed it.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1130066/They-say-old-care-grandchildr
en-Social-workers-hand-siblings-gay-men-adoption.html

That's why guns are banned in the British Empire.

Gays can't procreate, so they have to steal other people's kids. That's why sodomites run Catholic orphanages.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:53 AM

KWICKO

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Actually, Im starting to like this feminism more and more. Those that truly believe in it, will not be able to pass on their teaching/genes/stupidity/assclownery (cuz they are lesbian...or are just too damn fugly).

If only stupidity could be bred out of existence...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:54 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"What a c*nt.

Edit: After I reread what she had posted...I don't think I will self edit..

To repeat: ahem..

WHAT A CUNT."

More Wulf hate, as usual.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:56 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"Feminism, racism, environmentalism, veganism....its all the same damn "ism"."

But add "ity" to the end, and apparently it's all right ! Christianity.

Oh, and it's more Wulf hate, as usual.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:59 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"And I understand guys being annoyed by feminists too. I want to slap some of them myself."

And I understand guys being annoyed by gun-lovers too. I want to slap some of them myself.

There, that's better.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:59 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Look, we all know Wulf is a hate-filled person. And because of that, he would never think of adopting. He's too good for that. The job of childraising belongs to his inferiors.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:01 AM

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"Feminism ... was never about female empowerment. If anything, it was about female enslavement ..."

And traditionalism is about freedom by giving women ONE choice to pick from. Yep, that's freedom.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:03 AM

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"Its the initiation of force I hate. I can think you are a fucking idiot, but so long as I don't try to change you, then its ok."

Unless of course you post something I disagree with. The it's all about my hate for you. Right, Wulf ?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:04 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Lol

The no-breeding part goes triple for you, Rue.

And double for you, Sig...

Really, not that we have to worry, but please...don't breed.

And no turkey basters either! Remember, no cheating!

Lol

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:05 AM

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"Camille Paglia is a true femenist."

Just like Phyllis Schlafly. Not.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:08 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Eh, Wulf is just stuck in 13-year-old mentality. Pouting that everybody hates him, when in reality he hates everyone.

May I suggest some worms, Wulfie?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:09 AM

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"Oh, and just because feminism says it's about female empowerment, doesn't mean it is. Women's role in society has fluctuated many times. It was higher ie, more freedom of career, advancement, etc. before feminism began than it was when Women's Lib hit."

So you disagree with funding womens and girls sports, with equal pay, with hiring and funding on merit rather than sex ?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:12 AM

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"(Hopefully by the time of MY grandchildren, we will have bred you, and your ilk, out.)"

So, you really DON'T believe women should have equal choice and lives ? B/c if women have a free choice, they will not do what you think they need to do ?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:12 AM

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The no-breeding part goes triple for you, Rue. And double for you, Sig...

Do you really think the idea of fairness is passed on genetically? Boy, are YOU stupid!

But yanno what?

You remind me of Rance Burgess in Heart of Gold. Knows exactly where women belong and what they should be doing (for him). Likes to keep the world HIS way. Go watch that episode, Wulf. Try to gain a little insight.

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Hopefully by the time of MY grandchildren, we will have bred you, and your ilk, out.

I don't think Wulf is married. If he is, I feel truly sorry for his wife.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:15 AM

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Lol

Omg...wow. Sig, you poor, poor, deluded, womyn. Please, keep thinking that.

If it makes you feel better I mean.

After all, how could a "hate-filled bastard" like me EVER have gotten married?

When YOU COULD NOT?

Same for you Rue.

Either, the Universe is just so UNFAIR,

or,

its actually right.

LMAO

(Ok, Im going to stop now before I get really mean.)

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:19 AM

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WULF- I see you've been keeping yourself company! Well, have a nice day... with you and yourself. Don't sprain your wrist!

(PS, I think Wulf needs to get laid. Given his social skills, I know a couple of goats that might fit the bill.)
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:21 AM

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Eh Wulf

You are one very blatant example of a person who never got past your childhood, and will be forever doomed to relive it, till death.

Enjoy.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:21 AM

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"Camille Paglia is a true femenist."

Just like Phyllis Schlafly. Not.

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Thanks for signing the sheeple list, Rue.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:24 AM

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"Eh Wulf

You are one very blatant example of people who never got past their childhoods, and will be forever doomed to relive them, till death.

Enjoy."

Oh Lord, and you arn't, Rue?

lmao

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:26 AM

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"Oh Lord, and you arn't, Rue?"

You don't know about my childhood. And yes, I've gotten past it. Enough to do a fantastic job with children. Something of which I'm very proud.

And, you need to learn to spell better.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:26 AM

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After all, how could a "hate-filled bastard" like me EVER have gotten married?

If you behave at home in any fashion like you behave here I truly, TRULY pity your wife. You're a horrorshow of hate and self-pity. And if you have kids.... omg.

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When YOU COULD NOT?

How do you know I'm NOT married?

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:29 AM

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Lmao

Ok, this is getting too off topic and too funny.

(Now Sigy, I was playing nice. You guys started it. Guess I struck a nerve there, tho, didn't I?)

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:31 AM

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Wulf is also an example of a person who doesn't actually read posts, but argues with the voices in his head. If he'd actually read your posts, he'd know. But, that's why his supposed shots go so astray - his aim is all directed to his own foot.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:31 AM

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Now Sigy, I was playing nice. You guys started it. Guess I struck a nerve there, tho, didn't I?)

The nerve that you struck was the one that responds to self-serving bigoted jerks. Everything else you said was sadly off-target.

So- 'bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

*waves goodbye*

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:33 AM