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Monday, February 9, 2009 6:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!






Meh.....then again.





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, February 9, 2009 7:42 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Ayep, that's about right.

I'd be dumping a lot of that spending, myself.

Although infrastructure is something that we really do *need* to put some dosh into, but till we can trim the pork, we need to go with criticals only, but they DO need to be addressed, and quickly.

One way to handle it ?
Remember that battalion of 3rd Infantry they got assigned here ?
Attach some army engineers to it and prioritize critical infrastructure items such as bridges about to fall down as critical to maintain proper civic order, which they are, and let them boys go to town.

Yes, there will be some bitchin from unions and whatnot, but the minute that happens offer them contracts at a *rational* payscale, with oversight and requiring full congressional approval for cost overruns to be paid out.

Regardless of folks blaming them for it, the problems with the new orleans levees had everything to do with budget and nothing to do with skill or motivation on behalf of the army engineers, it's just that using them for civic projects rides a fine line - but right now it's really a critical situation as regards national infrastructure, so I am not opposed to them doing this both because it is necessary, and to hone what would be needful skills if they *are* ever deployed in a disaster or emergency, we can damn near bill it as a training exercise.

While telling private enterprise that they're just going to have to tighten their belts and do it on a goddamn budget, and bid competitatively for once.

Handled right, some of these issues are soluable, I just don't have a lot of faith in Government to do it right, or even well if they did.

But this much is true, if you ever wanna frustrate an army engineer to tears, show him a problem and then forbid him to fix it.

They're seriously nuts in a love-their-work-too-much kinda way.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:04 AM

CITIZEN


George Bush's administration is over, come on man move on.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:34 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
George Bush's administration is over, come on man move on.




It's the Obama Stimulus package, dummy. Even says as much on the side. of the basket.

Check your eyes.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:07 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's the Obama Stimulus package, dummy. Even says as much on the side. of the basket.

Check your eyes.


I know it is stupid. I mean you posted it, and things you post are either pro-Republican, or anti-Democrat. Since this is a negative cartoon, it has to be about a Democrat. I'm just pointing out that the cartoon works equally well for the Bush administration.

Check your partisanship.



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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:01 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:

I'm just pointing out that the cartoon works equally well for the Bush administration.

Check your partisanship.




Actualy, that ain't true. After the initial recession W took over and tax cuts kicked into gear, the Dow was over 14,000 (Oct- '07 ), unemployment was low ( Under 5% for a full 2 years )

Just the facts, man. No hate.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:04 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
After the initial recession W took over and tax cuts kicked into gear, the Dow was over 14,000 (Oct- '07 ), unemployment was low ( Under 5% for a full 2 years )


Nope. Sorry, try again.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:05 AM

AURAPTOR

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P.S. ( from above )

There's just no accounting for there being all this spending. Obama said himself that tax cuts ALONE don't work. DUH. It was tax cuts and SPENDING that inflated our defecit. So why then, is Obama doing the EXACT SAME THING he says got us into this mess in the first place ?

Japan tried this , a decade ago, and it failed, miserably. Why the hell Obama is doing this can be only explained away by 1 thing - partisan politics. Pure and simple. This will fail as well, and we'll need a true Conservative to save us all.

Mitt Romney, come on down !!



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:09 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
After the initial recession W took over and tax cuts kicked into gear, the Dow was over 14,000 (Oct- '07 ), unemployment was low ( Under 5% for a full 2 years )


Nope. Sorry, try again.


The laughing Chrisisall



Nope, sorry. Got it right the first time.

From Dec, 05 to Feb '08 the Unemployment rate for the U.S. was under 5.0%

Learn it. Know it. Live it.

http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/feddal/ru





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:09 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just the facts, man. No hate.


SO Bush wasn't in power while the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression lurched into being? He didn't cut takes while taking on massive government spending, costly wars and expanding the Federal Government? He didn't swell the Federal Deficit to over $10 trillion dollars, leaving the next incombant to deal with a collapsing economy, AND a massive debt? Really? REEEAAAAALLLLY?



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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:12 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Nope, sorry. Got it right the first time.

From Dec, 05 to Feb '08 the Unemployment rate for the U.S. was under 5.0%




Uh, no, I'M sorry, you are wrong. Check you source; you are being misinformed.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just the facts, man. No hate.


He didn't cut takes while taking on massive government spending and expanding the Federal Government?



Yes, Bush did all that, which is why I'm trying to figure out why Obama plans on doing all that, and MORE !!





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:13 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:

SO Bush wasn't in power while the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression lurched into being?

That's not the two minutes AU is focusing on, Cit.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Nope, sorry. Got it right the first time.

From Dec, 05 to Feb '08 the Unemployment rate for the U.S. was under 5.0%




Uh, no, I'M sorry, you are wrong. Check you source; you are being misinformed.

Chrisisall



Offer up your info, or kindly don't waste our time.

*Unemployment Rate figures obtained from the U.S. Department of Labor*



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:21 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

*Unemployment Rate figures obtained from the U.S. Department of Labor*


LOL, yep.


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:23 AM

AURAPTOR

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Bureau of Labor Statistics
Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

Series Id: LNS14000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Unemployment RateLabor force status: Unemployment rateType of data: PercentAge: 16 years and over




http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

*Unemployment Rate figures obtained from the U.S. Department of Labor*


LOL, yep.




non responsive. Try again.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:30 AM

CHRISISALL







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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:38 AM

AURAPTOR

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Didnt' think you could deal w/ the facts, but wow.


I mean....

Wow.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:46 AM

CHRISISALL


Just occupy yourself with the above, K?


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:48 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Just have a mature discussion, if ya can.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:52 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just have a mature discussion, if ya can.


Department of Internal Homeland Weights and Measures reports that 98.6% of all AURaptors are misled by their blind faith in "The System."


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just have a mature discussion, if ya can.


Department of Internal Homeland Weights and Measures reports that 98.6% of all AURaptors are misled by their blind faith in "The System."


The laughing Chrisisall



Coming up next: Chris debunks the USGS and it's crazy " plate tectonics " lies while explaining how the world really IS only 6,000 yrs old.





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:09 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Coming up next: Chris debunks the USGS and it's crazy " plate tectonics " lies while explaining how the world really IS only 6,000 yrs old.




Y'know what? You'd be funny if you were funny.



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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


It also should be noted the economy didn't take a turn for the worst until 2 things happened.

Democrats gained control of the Congress

The min wage was jacked up to $5.85 per hr.

Add that to the list of things you ignore.





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:17 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

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Add that to the list of things you ignore.




I take note of the facts, AU. It is you I ignore.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:28 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

take note of the facts, AU. It is you I ignore


The facts would suggest otherwise. This entire thread is full of you " ignoring " me.




It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


The facts would suggest otherwise.

You are susceptible to suggestion, I find.


The These-aren't-the-droids-you're-looking-for Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:44 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


The facts would suggest otherwise.

You are susceptible to suggestion, I find.


The These-aren't-the-droids-you're-looking-for Chrisisall



It's true. While listening to The Signal, a segment discussing *Jason Palmer's portraits of the BDH was so damn intreging, I wanted to buy them, with out even SEEING them. Glad I took the time to see them first, though.


* http://www.jasonpalmer.net/SpecialSerenitySet.htm



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:05 AM

CHRISISALL


Nice one of Inara!


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:16 AM

AURAPTOR

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About the only one of the BDH which looks like who it's suppose to look like. I don't even like how he did Joss.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:26 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


So, what you're saying Rap is that Bush's policies of requiring fradulent home loans to go unprosecuted by states, of bankrupting the country by lowering taxes and increasing spending, and of dropping capitalization requirements on investment banks had nothing to do with the economic meltdown.

All this despite the FACTS that Bush was handed a strong dollar, a thriving economy and a federal surplus - and that your hero, Bush, managed to turn all that around in a few years with heroic efforts at doing as many of the exact wrong things as he could manage.

You are such a tool.

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Silence is consent.

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:02 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
that your hero, Bush, managed to turn all that around in a few years with heroic efforts at doing as many of the exact wrong things as he could manage.


No, he's saying...what ARE you saying, AU?




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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:05 AM

RUE

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That Bush is only responsible for 3 years and 2 months out of his 8 years in office ?

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:07 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
That Bush is only responsible for 3 years and 2 months out of his 8 years in office ?


Yes. That's it.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
So, what you're saying Rap is that Bush's policies of requiring fradulent home loans to go unprosecuted by states, of bankrupting the country by lowering taxes and increasing spending, and of dropping capitalization requirements on investment banks had nothing to do with the economic meltdown.

Only it wasn't Bush's policy, it was the Democrats, for their involvement in Fannie and Freddie Mae which started the avalanche in the home lending crisis.

Quote:



All this despite the FACTS that Bush was handed a strong dollar, a thriving economy and a federal surplus - and that your hero, Bush, managed to turn all that around in a few years with heroic efforts at doing as many of the exact wrong things as he could manage.

You are such a tool.




Bush's problem was he wasn't strong enough, thinking he could rub the back of the Dems and they'd play nice. Same stupid ass mistake daddy made. Instead, he should have raised more hell about Barney Frank blocking the GOP's attempts at regulatig Fannie and Freddie, but W's such a BIG Gov't kind of guy anyways, he chose not to rock the boat. He's not blameless, but clearly, this is primarily ( 80 % ) the fault of the Dems.

One need not be an economist to see that the economy started to go sideways after Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid took over after the '06 election.

You'll want to ignore all that, of course, but there's no coincidence there, in the least.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:14 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
that your hero, Bush, managed to turn all that around in a few years with heroic efforts at doing as many of the exact wrong things as he could manage.


No, he's saying...what ARE you saying, AU?




I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:57 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:



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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:31 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You continually point out the high of over 14,000, but you conveniently leave out the fact that on Bush's last day in office, the Dow closed below 8,000. You credit him with that 14,000 peak - which occurred almost a year after Dems took control of Congress - yet you blame him not one bit for the lows. Sounds pretty partisan to me.

It's all in how you look at the numbers. Look at it from the peak to the end of his 2nd term, and you see Bush presiding over a 45% drop in the Dow in less than two years.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:36 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:
You can swipe a credit card thru the gaps in my teeth.


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:44 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:
Top 10 reasons no one watches the "Late Show"
#10 I suck

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:47 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#9 The leader of my band looks like an Alien

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:53 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#8 All the really good comedy writers are dead

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:57 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#7 I look like the owner of a Feed Store in Indiana

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:58 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#6 Stupid pet tricks are stupid

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:00 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#5 Top 10 list is stupid

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:01 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#4 I'm stupid

The laughing Chrisisall


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:04 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#3 They picked Leno over me for the "Tonight Show", what does that tell ya.

The laughing Chrisisall


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:08 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:

#2 I'm a crappy interviewer

The laughing Chrisisall


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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:09 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already said what I had to say. You'd rather listen to others distort my position, or ignore everything and be the court jester, so why are you even bothering in asking what I said ?




Sorry. I forgot:
And the #1 reason no one watches the "Late Show"
I suck

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