I wonder if he has serious tax issues. by rue

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Originally posted by rue:
Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

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Naw, that's a Democratic character flaw. Gregg is a man of principle and good sense. Like MOST Republicans.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:37 PM

CITIZEN

Well, the ones not having sex with children anyways.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:40 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Cit, they don't consider that a "character flaw"; they consider it a "qualification"!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:41 PM

Gonna be hard for him to get reelected now, isn't it?

And I suppose the deal he had with the governor, to make his replacement a Republican appointee, might be null and void now.

This could get interesting...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:44 PM

CITIZEN

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Cit, they don't consider that a "character flaw"; they consider it a "qualification"!

Family values. Keeping it in the family. Etc.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:08 PM

WHOZIT

No tax issues, does'nt boink childeren, he just could'nt work for an empty suit that's in over his head. You libs are just going to except the fact, the Democrats are the bad guys in this case.....SOON I WILL LAUGH AT YOUR PAIN!!

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Cit, they don't consider that a "character flaw"; they consider it a "qualification"!

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Gerry Studds

Not only did the Democratic Congressman have SEX with a Congressional page, he wasn't even kicked . Hell, he got RE-ELECTED!

Seems the qualifier is on the Dem side of the aisle, not the GOP.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:20 PM

WHOZIT

The libs are just pissed becuase one of Barry's picks dropped out and was NOT a scumbag, shame.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:00 PM

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"No tax issues ..."

And, you know this how exactly ? It sure seems suspicious to me - just when he gets to the fine tooth comb, he chickens-out. It really does beg the question why ...

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:40 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
"No tax issues ..."

And, you know this how exactly ? It sure seems suspicious to me - just when he gets to the fine tooth comb, he chickens-out. It really does beg the question why ...

As compared to Treasury Secretary Geithner, who asked the IMF for additional money to pay the self-employment tax on his income from the IMF, signed a statement acknowledging he understood he had to pay self-employment tax, didn't include self-employment tax on his return, and didn't pay it until after an audit...and still got appointed.

I suspect Sen. Gregg, identified as a 'free trader' by the Cato Institute, actually did have enough policy differences with the stimulus and bail-out packages that he couldn't accept the Commerce spot, where he'd be involved in them on a day-to-day basis.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:02 PM

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It's never about details or " facts " with these folk, geezer, you should know that by now.

It's purely agenda driven and partisan politics. Always has been, always will be. It's who they are, it's what drives them.

Always.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:23 PM

Rap, you wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you in the ass.

As for agenda-driven partisanship... if Rush says it, you're on board. If Obama says THE EXACT SAME THING, it's automatically a bad idea in your book. You're as partisan as they come.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 13, 2009 5:08 AM

In Obama's own words,

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You know that guy ain't shit. Sorry-ass muthafucka ain't got nothin' on me. NOTHIN'.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 13, 2009 5:31 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
As for agenda-driven partisanship... if Rush says it, you're on board. If Obama says THE EXACT SAME THING, it's automatically a bad idea in your book. You're as partisan as they come.

No, I just know what I stand for, and why. I'm not all doe-eyed over an empty suit like Obama. He kept Gates on as SECDEF, fine. He chose Geithner after all his KNOWN income tax crimes, not so fine. I just call 'em as I see 'em.

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Rap, you wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you in the ass.

Here's your cracker, you're sounding ever so much like a boring, lame parrot.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 7:22 AM

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" suspect Sen. Gregg, identified as a 'free trader' by the Cato Institute, actually did have enough policy differences with the stimulus and bail-out packages ..."

Then WHY did HE approach the Obama administration ASKING for the job ? WHY did he accept the offer he actively went for ?

I think he suddenly realized - he was going to get reamed for his tax 'mistakes'.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 7:41 AM

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Can I have a cracker? I'm sounding ever so much like a boring, lame parrot.

There ya go. Fixed that for ya.

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No, I just know what I stand for, and why.

Yes - you stand for Republicans no matter what, because they're Republicans.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 13, 2009 8:08 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's never about details or " facts " with these folk, geezer, you should know that by now.

It's purely agenda driven and partisan politics. Always has been, always will be. It's who they are, it's what drives them.

Always.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

And you don't think that applies to you, as well? Get a clue.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 8:21 AM

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Story

"It's never about details or " facts " with these folk, geezer, you should know that by now.
It's purely agenda driven and partisan politics. Always has been, always will be. It's who they are, it's what drives them.
Always."

It's called projection.

I've always wondered how someone could be like Rap - how they could X out huge chunks of reality in order to maintain their views. At least I've figured him out, anyway.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 8:44 AM

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I've always wondered how someone could be like Rap - how they could X out huge chunks of reality in order to maintain their views.

By calling anyone who reminds them of it "lame parrots"?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 13, 2009 9:33 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Ah yes, but that's the key there, Rue moi darrrling...

Once you know what goes on in there, how the gears mesh, what all the buttons and levers do - and you come to the realization that these folk are almost as identical in there as if they had come off an assembly line...

You realize that with just a little of the right kind of manipulation from a carefully crafted identity which appeals to all their baser instincts...

You can make them do whatever the hell you want.

Hilarity Ensues.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, February 13, 2009 2:46 PM

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Then WHY did HE approach the Obama administration ASKING for the job ? WHY did he accept the offer he actively went for ?

I would suggest that he signed up due to his liking for Obama, which developed when they were both Senators, and his hope of bringing a little fiscal conservatism to the Cabinet. But after finding out the White House had decided to take over responsibility for the Census from Commerce at the behest of the Congressional Black Caucus, seeing the way the stimulus package was being rammed through the House with no time to even read it, and then hearing about 2 trillion more to bail out the banks holding toxic loans, his liking for Obama couldn't overcome his disagreements with Obama's policies.

As noted, cheating on his taxes didn't keep Geithner from being confirmed, and an Obama pick who's a Republican would get confirmation votes from both sides. Therefore, I doubt that tax problems had anything to do with it.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, February 13, 2009 3:19 PM

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And you don't think that applies to you, as well? Get a clue.

I know for a fact it doesn't, because I can name at least half a dozen things I was against that W was for. Probably a lot more if I put ANY thought to it.

Clue gotten and had, for a long while now. You?

How many can YOU name that Obama is for, but you aren't ?

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Friday, February 13, 2009 4:03 PM

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I know for a fact it doesn't, because I can name at least half a dozen things I was against that W was for. Probably a lot more if I put ANY thought to it.

It's just that you were against them, NOW. You sure as hell weren't THEN. In fact, you accused anybody who spoke out against the Bush administration in any way of being "un-American" or worse.

So there you go, lying again. Or posting up your RapFacts™, which are indistinguishable from lies.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 13, 2009 4:14 PM

SIGNYM

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SOON I WILL LAUGH AT YOUR PAIN!!

You keep saying that and I keep wondering... when the frak is that gonna be, again? Soon?

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Friday, February 13, 2009 4:21 PM

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PUTTING THE "PARTISAN" IN "BIPARTISANSHIP"

by Jamison Foser

If there was any doubt that the news media have a badly skewed understanding of "bipartisanship" -- one in which no number of concessions from Democrats is enough and no number from Republicans is too little -- the reaction to Judd Gregg's decision to back out of becoming Barack Obama's commerce secretary should put the matter to rest.

Even before the Gregg announcement, the flaws in the media's fetishization of bipartisanship had been on display for weeks.

Most striking has been the bizarre notion that bipartisanship is an essential end in and of itself, rather than a means to an end. When the House of Representatives passed a stimulus bill two weeks ago, ABC's The Note led not with an analysis of the content of the legislation, but with President Obama's purported failure to win a single Republican vote. (Note that the failure of bipartisanship was not portrayed as a bipartisan failing; it was Obama's alone. But we'll get back to that shortly.)

That was typical of reporting in the days before the vote, which was at its most absurd when NBC's Chuck Todd asked White House press secretary Robert Gibbs if Obama would veto a bill that lacked Republican support. In the midst of an economic crisis unlike any we've seen in decades, the news media think the most important thing is not that the government takes strong, successful action to help the economy -- and the millions of Americans who are struggling -- recover. No, they think the most important thing is for Democrats and Republicans to play nicely together.

Which leads to the other problem that was evident during the stimulus coverage: Reporters always seem to think it is the Democrats' responsibility to reach out to the Republicans -- and that if Democrats reach across the aisle only to draw back a bloody stump where their hand used to be, it's their fault for not reaching further.

Just look at the stimulus debate in the House. The Democrats included billions of dollars' worth of tax cuts in an effort to appeal to Republicans, and they dropped provisions the Republicans objected to, like funding for contraceptives. The Republicans, on the other hand, offered an alternative that consisted of nothing -- absolutely nothing -- other than tax cuts. And keep in mind that government spending on things like unemployment benefits and food stamps is far more stimulative than tax cuts, according to economist and McCain campaign adviser Mark Zandi, among others.

Now, given all that, you might assume that when House Republicans responded to Democratic concessions by unanimously opposing a stimulus bill containing a mix of tax cuts and spending, voting instead for one that contained only tax cuts and would provide less of a boost to the economy, they would be portrayed by the media as intransigent partisans.

But that's not what happened. Instead, Obama and the Democrats were portrayed as insufficiently bipartisan. Time's Mark Halperin, for example, blasted Obama for failing to "go for centrist compromises" and compared him to George W. Bush.

But the public saw things much more clearly than the pundits and journalists. A CNN poll released this week found that "[t]hree out of four poll respondents said that Obama is doing enough to cooperate with Republicans in Congress, but only 39 percent feel that congressional Republicans are cooperating enough with the president." Just imagine how lopsided the results would have been if not for Halperin and The Note and Chuck Todd and all the rest suggesting insufficient bipartisanship on Obama's part.

So, that brings us to Judd Gregg. The conservative Republican senator was Barack Obama's choice for commerce secretary, and the third Republican Obama had named to his Cabinet, along with Robert Gates and Ray LaHood.

Gregg's behavior since news first broke that Obama was considering him hasn't exactly reflected a desire to put partisan politics aside and work on behalf of the administration he was about to join. First, reports indicated that Gregg agreed to take the job only on the condition that New Hampshire's Democratic governor name a Republican to take his place in the Senate. Then, Gregg announced that he would not cast a vote on the stimulus package -- the equivalent of voting no, since Senate rules required 60 votes in order to invoke cloture, regardless of how many senators cast votes. That meant that the man who was about to be Barack Obama's commerce secretary could have been responsible for the failure of Obama's stimulus package. Not a great way to start off a new job.

So maybe it shouldn't have come as much of a surprise when Gregg abruptly announced yesterday that he didn't really want the job after all, essentially explaining that he belatedly realized that he is a conservative Republican and Barack Obama is a Democrat. (He JUST realized that ?

)

For a moment, it seemed like this might finally make reporters realize that if anyone is falling short of their precious bipartisanship, it's the Republicans. After all, here's a situation in which Barack Obama asked a conservative GOP senator to become the third Republican in his Cabinet -- and after accepting the job and then working against Obama's stimulus bill anyway, the senator decided that on second thought, he didn't want to serve in Obama's administration.

It's pretty hard to see that as anything other than Obama reaching out to the GOP, only to have his overture rebuffed. And having seen the public strongly disagree with their assessment that it was Obama who was insufficiently bipartisan in the stimulus negotiations, you'd think reporters would at least hesitate before again suggesting the president made inadequate efforts at bipartisanship.

But many of them rushed to portray Gregg's reversal as indicative of a failure by Obama.

An unintentionally hilarious Politico article disclosed that congressional Republicans "applauded boisterously" when they learned of Gregg's withdrawal. Why were they so excited? Because, Politico explained, Gregg's decision reinforced "an emerging GOP case against Obama and the ruling Democratic Party: Strip away the new face, the lofty rhetoric and the promises of post-partisanship and you'll find the same big-spending party of old, bent on politicizing government to consolidate its hold on power."

Got that? Republicans applauded a Republican's decision not to work with Obama because it reinforced their contention that Obama's "promises of post-partisanship" are nothing but "lofty rhetoric" designed to conceal attempts at "politicizing government."

Now, a slightly more ... sane take might be that in offering Gregg the job, Obama was making a sincere effort at bipartisanship, and in applauding Gregg's decision to back out, House Republicans were demonstrating their lack of interest in working with Obama. But such an assessment was nowhere to be found in the Politico article.

Not only that, Politico -- like many other news outlets -- indicated that a key factor in Gregg's decision was the White House's reported plan to directly oversee the Census Bureau.

Politico reported that "Gregg breathed life into Republican charges of a White House power grab over a critical Commerce Department function."

Now, first of all, the White House doesn't need to execute a "power grab" over a Commerce Department function; the White House is ... well, it's the White House. Does Politico really mean to suggest that traditionally, the Commerce Department doesn't do what the president tells it to do?

Second, Politico probably should have noted that during his bizarre withdrawal announcement, Gregg repeatedly downplayed the importance of the census story, saying, "The census was only a slight catalyzing issue. It was not a major issue." And "I don't need to elaborate. I know it was a slight issue. ... It wasn't a big enough issue for me to even discuss what the issue was."

Rather than breathing life into the GOP's census attacks, Gregg's comments would seem to let the air out of them.

Finally: The Republicans' claims to be shocked -- shocked! -- that someone like White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel might have some influence over how the census is run ring more than a little hollow. The White House is always going to have influence over what happens at the Census Bureau. See, the president works at the White House, and he's kind of in charge of the executive branch.

But even if it were somehow the case that the Commerce Department had previously existed in a vacuum, conducting the census all on its own, without any input from the White House, it's important to keep in mind some of the people who have served as secretary of commerce in recent administrations.

George W. Bush's first commerce secretary was his campaign chairman, Don Evans. Bill Clinton's commerce secretaries included his campaign chairman, Mickey Kantor, and Ron Brown, who was chairman of the DNC when Clinton first ran for president. George H.W. Bush gave the job to Bob Mosbacher, finance chairman of his 1988 campaign.

I don't remember any Republicans complaining that Don Evans or Bob Mosbacher might be in charge of the census. In fact, you could easily conclude that by insisting that a Republican be in charge of the census, Republicans are guilty of politicizing the process.

And yet reporters take seriously the Republicans' complaints that Rahm Emanuel might have some influence over the census.

Other reporters found even sillier ways to pretend Gregg's withdrawal said something about Obama's insufficient bipartisanship. Discussing Gregg's withdrawal, Chuck Todd claimed that unlike Ray LaHood -- the longtime Republican congressman whom Obama chose as his transportation secretary -- Gregg is a "real Republican." So now it isn't enough for Obama to keep his Republican predecessor's Republican defense secretary and to choose a longtime Republican congressman for transportation secretary -- in order to be truly bipartisan, his nominees have to pass Chuck Todd's "real Republican" litmus test.

After quoting Robert Gibbs on Gregg's abrupt reversal, Politico's Ben Smith complained that " 'bipartisan,' in the White House definition ... doesn't mean you make friends with the other side, or play nice."

Huh? Obama offered Judd Gregg a Cabinet position, which Gregg accepted ... then decided he didn't want to work with Obama after all. And it's the White House that has a phony definition of "bipartisan"?

No, it's the media.

And with the media rigging the game this thoroughly, it's no wonder that Obama's attempts at bipartisanship have brought little in return from Republicans.

Jamison Foser is Executive Vice President at Media Matters for America.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 4:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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No, I just know what I stand for, and why.

OMG Rapo, you are SOOO funny!!!! Here I was, at the end ot a hard week, idly scrolling through the thread when I came across your gem and nearly peed my pants!

OF COURSE you know what you stand for and why! You stand for whatever Rush stands for, because Rush stands for it! And when he reverses himself, as he has from time to time, you double back and not only do you NOT recognize HIS outsized hoofprints you don't even recognize your own!!!

I guess it helps not to have much of a memory, sense of logic, or... anything else for that matter, except a HUGE sense of gullibility and a HUGE sense of humor!

Unless.... (oh dear).... were you .... serious????

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Friday, February 13, 2009 5:09 PM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Jamison Foser is Executive Vice President at Media Matters for America.

From their website:
"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."

Nice to see you're quoting an unbiased source.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, February 13, 2009 5:15 PM

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They document and resource everything they print. Nice to see that for YOU, partisanship is more important than facts.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:05 PM

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I know for a fact it doesn't, because I can name at least half a dozen things I was against that W was for. Probably a lot more if I put ANY thought to it.

It's just that you were against them, NOW. You sure as hell weren't THEN. In fact, you accused anybody who spoke out against the Bush administration in any way of being "un-American" or worse.

So there you go, lying again. Or posting up your RapFacts™, which are indistinguishable from lies.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

Again, you're wrong. Something you've become VERY good at being. Well done!

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:07 PM

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OMG Rapo, you are SOOO funny!!!! Here I was, at the end ot a hard week, idly scrolling through the thread when I came across your gem and nearly peed my pants!

Sig

you're a simpleton. No sense in even replying to your silly post. In fact, I think I'll just stop replying in the mid-

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:09 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by rue:
They document and resource and DISTORT everything they print. Nice to see that for YOU, partisanship is more important than facts.

Needed to clarifly that for the reast of the folks.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:13 PM

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Rap - I hope you understand you and your Rap Facts ™ are a big joke.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:23 PM

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Rap - I hope you understand you and your Rap Facts ™ are a big joke.

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Awwww.... you tryin' to hurt my feewings ?

You're the joke, rue. You can't deal the facts on their own merit, so instead ya gotta hurl insults.

Take me out of context all you want, but you can't choose your own facts. And that's where you fall short. Terribly short.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:38 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

This is you dealing with facts ?

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"They document and resource and DISTORT everything they print. Nice to see that for YOU, partisanship is more important than facts.

Needed to clarifly that for the reast (sic) of the folks."

Well, at least we all have an even clearer example of what you think of are facts.

snicker ... snicker ... ha ha ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Well, buh-bye now.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

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And just to be clear, I'm laughing at you and not with you. And that IS a fact.

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Friday, February 13, 2009 6:44 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

Hey Rue,

I'm glad you posted that article, it really explains a lot. I've started watching the news on Channel 13 (public television) to get the better coverage, of late. It seems to make quite a difference for me.

So now we know, the Republicans really do listen to Rush Limpdik and are hoping Obama fails. Of course they will try to make it look like an accident. Somehow I get the feeling that the masterplan is to render him ineffective.

Well, well, well..........what do we have here?

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Friday, February 13, 2009 9:19 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Is he related to the CIA Gregg running coke in Iran Contra?

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Friday, February 13, 2009 10:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Geezer:

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Nice to see you're quoting an unbiased source.

Nice to see you discussing actual issues. (not!)

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:13 AM

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You can't deal the facts on their own merit, so instead ya gotta hurl insults.

This from the same "person" who routinely resorts to calling others "dumbass", "simpleton", "cunt-face", and more.

So you're admitting that you can't "deal the facts" (whatever the hell THAT means; I think you meant "deal WITH the facts" but I'm never sure, because you really do suck at English), so you resort to hurling insults, eh?

Your own words make you seem very much less than bright, AuLapdog.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:33 PM

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I really wish Obama would invite another repubican to the admin. Just to, you know, watch the show.

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:04 PM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Nice to see you discussing actual issues. (not!)

Go hate some more capitalists, Siggy.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11 PM

FREMDFIRMA

C'mon Geeze, yer overreacting a mite.

All sacred cows need a little grilling now and then.
Mmmm, cheeeseburgerrrrs....

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Monday, February 16, 2009 3:37 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by rue:
They document and resource everything they print. Nice to see that for YOU, partisanship is more important than facts.

The 'Facts' in their article are that the media reported some stories, and a link to a liberal editorial. The language of the article is full of sneers and smears.

C'mon, Rue. How much credence would you give to an organization that claimed on their site to be "...a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) conservative research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting Liberal misinformation in the U.S. media."?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, February 16, 2009 4:15 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
C'mon Geeze, yer overreacting a mite.

How? I'm acting just like SignyM does to people she disagrees with. Minus the personal insults and gratuitous name-calling, of course.

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Monday, February 16, 2009 8:32 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
They document and resource everything they print. Nice to see that for YOU, partisanship is more important than facts.

The 'Facts' in their article are that the media reported some stories, and a link to a liberal editorial. The language of the article is full of sneers and smears.

If only you had held the Bush White House to the same standard... Isn't this pretty much exactly what happened with the whole Saddam-Yellowcake thing? The British mentioned a document (a FORGED document, mind you), we asked someone else if they'd seen this report, they said "yes" so it was "confirmed"

But it seems, Geezer, that when it comes to right-wing misreportage, you have a somewhat different standard that you go by.

Mike

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Monday, February 16, 2009 9:57 AM

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If only you had held the Bush White House to the same standard...

The current Administration must be really comforted in knowing that no matter how bad the screw up, any criticism will be washed away by hordes of apologists crying, "But the Bush Administration did it first."

Unless two wrongs suddenly do make a right, the actions of the Bush White House are irrelevent to the accuracy of the Media Matters story. It has to stand or fall on its own merits.

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Monday, February 16, 2009 12:43 PM

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The current Administration must be really comforted in knowing that no matter how bad the screw up, any criticism will be washed away by hordes of apologists crying, "But the Bush Administration did it first."

Yes, much as the last Administration took great comfort in washing away criticism by having their hordes of apologists (you included) crying, "But... but... but CLINTON!!!"

Mike

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Monday, February 16, 2009 12:50 PM