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Hummer driver shoots, kills patron over parking space

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Friday, February 13, 2009 11:38 PM

Much appreciated thoughts there, AR.

To be honest, that WAS the tack I was trying to take, that joe average with the right mindset and a weapon can indeed resist effectively if they should choose to.

And that "self-defense" includes not winding up in that situation if possible as well.

And Kirk summed up pretty well why I think it's a good idea, that being the salient point - I do not *require* other people to agree with me, only acknowledge my point without making nasty "rambo" or "hollywood" comments because they happen to disagree with my opinion.

In fact I said exactly that.

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That's an assesment only YOU can make, when to resist at all costs, not one that you should ever allow someone else to make for you - and mine happens to come at a different point than yours, because I am of the opinion if you are not *allowed* to defend what you have, then in truth you have nothing at all.

I can accept that resistance carries some risk, and other folk might not think it a good idea, but what I refuse to accept is someone telling me to my face that it's futile or doesn't work, and therefore should not ever be an option.

Were that true, I'd be dead even if I had my life and all my cats nine, and very clearly I'm still here to fuss about it.

YOU gotta make that decision, the same tack I take on everything from politics to racism to self-defense and beyond, is that it starts by people making their own decisions.

It'd be nice if folk respected it when people did, and yes, I know everyone here's guilty of some level of it, but I admitted imma dick about this one, and even pointed out why.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:12 AM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

It'd be nice if folk respected it when people did, and yes, I know everyone here's guilty of some level of it, but I admitted imma dick about this one, and even pointed out why.

Dicks all round then dude :). Seriously, AR probably put my case better than I did, that acquiescence is more likely to afford survival, and yes I think most people would be better off taking that route.

I'd really rather not make an enemy of you Frem because I really rather like you, despite not seeing eye to eye on virtually anything. Other people here, not so much, and I think you got embroiled in that some what. Sorry for that.

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:21 AM

AGENTROUKA

So we actually all agree that we should respect each other's choices?

Cool.

My inner Care Bear is satisfied.

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:12 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Apology accepted, and reciprocated, I think we both did.

We can agree to disagree here without rippin each others heads off, it's all cool.

-F

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:17 AM

CITIZEN

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We can agree to disagree here without rippin each others heads off, it's all cool.
-F

No we fucking well can't :P

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:37 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
We can agree to disagree here without rippin each others heads off, it's all cool.
-F

No we fucking well can't :P

Hey- no friendly disagreements here! This is the all-vitriol-all-the-time board!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:56 AM

CITIZEN

shut up you festering gobshite. Your sort really makes me sick you ignorant melodious pervert.

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:02 AM

KWICKO

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shut up you festering gobshite. Your sort really makes me sick you ignorant melodious pervert.

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Melodious?

Did you perchance mean malodorous?

Because either one works, but a melodious pervert is kinda hilarious.

And no, we decidedly will NOT be getting along or agreeing to disagree!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:51 AM

CITIZEN

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Melodious?

Did you perchance mean malodorous?

Because either one works, but a melodious pervert is kinda hilarious.

And no, we decidedly will NOT be getting along or agreeing to disagree!

Malodorous pervert is Monty Python you parrot molesting turkey rustler!

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:11 AM

KIRKULES

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I do not *require* other people to agree with me, only acknowledge my point without making nasty "rambo" or "hollywood" comments because they happen to disagree with my opinion.

You do sound a little like John Wayne sometimes Frem. For some reason this remided me of my favorite line from the "Shootist".

"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Yanno, that is pretty close to my own philosophy of things, yeah.

As for actual deeds, well, I've been known to apply personal philosophy for real to degrees some folk might consider a little bonkers, too.

But that's usually more Verbal Kint than John Wayne.

-F

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Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:04 PM

CHRISISALL

Intercourse your penguin.

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