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Originally posted by AURaptor:
but it's no problem in waiting several days to sign the Enormulus Bill. Doom and gloom, rush rush to get this bill finished, or else the economy may collapse!!

Or, more accuratly, Princess Pelosi can make her dinner date in Italy, on her personal HairForce One airliner.

Bills can be signed anywhere, at any time. So why all this fuss and hooplah in ramming this bill down our throats, before anyone had a chance to READ the god damn thing? Oh, just so Obama could wait until he got to Colorado and put on a big staged event, you say ?


The more time this bill remained in the public eye, the less and less the citizens cared for it. " Sunshine is the best disinfectant", but the cover of night is what the Dems sought, and for good reason. This bill was presented to Congress at 11PM, and then signed the next day! Getting the dirty deed done was job one for the sinister Democrats, and even 7 of them in the House saw how horrific this bill was.

Folks, you've been had.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people WILL understand.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Auraptor, give it up. Kwicko's right, we lost. We lost a lot more than the election, we lost the moral, ethical, and organizational necessities to ever win again. Don't fret, somewhere in Santa Rosa is a pod with your name on it. All you need to do is fall asleep, and when you wake up you'll feel much better about things.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
We won, you lost. Deal with it.

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pizmobeach wrote:
Tuesday, February 17, 2009 03:59
....Otherwise, gridlock, quicksand, and the reps - as can be seen on this site - will just jabber jabber jabber and nothing will get done.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
We won, you lost. Deal with it.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

" Nothing " would be better than the eternal debt and waste of $$ we're condeming ourselves with this bill.

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We lost a lot more than the election, we lost the moral, ethical, and organizational necessities to ever win again.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Come on, it's what Bush was doing, it's what McCain would have done

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

" Nothing " would be better than the eternal debt and waste of $$ we're condeming ourselves with the passing of this bill.

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:


We tried nothing - it is largely responsible for this mess, as in "Nothing" regulation-wise on mortgage/lending. The SEC saw no reason to regulate loans made to subprime candidates and Wall Street loved it and we cycled through boom and now bust in 4 short years.

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"More than 2.3 million homeowners faced foreclosure proceedings last year, an 81 percent increase from 2007, and analysts say that number could soar as high as 10 million in the coming years, depending on the severity of the recession."

Doing nothing is like staring at a dying fire and hoping that will bring it back. You have to fan the flames to get it back, or throw mountains of greenbacks on it. It's also a heck of a lot more fun! We're going to get some new bridges and concrete stuff! I wish I owned stock in cement mixers.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
AU, Jong, et al.

Buck up!

Eventually voters will grow tired of Democrats wasting money and trampling our constitution with big government programs justified by empty rhetoric and transparent scare tactics. Then the Republicans will once again have their shot at wasting money and trampling our constitution with big government programs justified by empty rhetoric and transparent scare tactics. What comes around goes around.

And around, and around, and ...

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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You then can blame Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for the 'NOTHING' regulation over Fannie and Freddie. Bush's attempt to reign in those agencies, as well as the Dems vitriolic defense of the very same, is well documented.

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And if you think we're done w/ " stimulus " bills, guess again. We're gonna be doing this all over again NEXT year too!

Wait and see.

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Bush's attempt to reign in those agencies,

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It's worse than you know. Japan tried to do the very same thing we're trying now, and it didn't work.

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But the GOP won't get it right either, and that's what pisses me off. They had their chance, got greedy, put their hands over their ears to block out the voices of those who AGREED with them, at first, and then started to act like Democrats - Lite. This little dance, the back and forth between bad and even much worse, continues between these two dandies, like some theatrical sword fight , up a spiral staircase. Up, and up, and around and around they go, never once taking time to figure out that, eventaully, the steps are going to end, and there won't be anything for them to stand on. Only open air, and a VERY long drop to the bottom.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Have you considered Anarchism, or at least Libertarianism, as an alternative yet ?

Here, have some of OUR kool-aid, it's maybe not as tasty as the other brands, but at least it's better for you!


-Frem

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Wasn't our very own Mr. "oh! you mean those taxes..." Geitner on some panel related to that?
So maybe we/he learned from that what not to do?

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We lost a lot more than the election, we lost the moral, ethical, and organizational necessities to ever win again.

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Less then 8 years after Richard Nixon destroyed the Republican Party...we had Ronald Reagan and three consecutive Republican presidential terms. Watergate lost Republicans the moral, ethical, and organizational necessities to ever win again, yet we've had (not counting Ford) twenty years of Republican and 12 of Democrat.

It all comes around, people hate Barrack Obama...they just haven't remembered how much. Its not the man...he's a fine fellow...its the attitude, lack of experiance, and bad policies. People are sick of it. Come 2012...it'll all come around and in 2016 we'll be fighting Hillary.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:Chris, there's no revisionism going on here. It's well documented, for those who aren't too scared to look it up for themselves.

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Remember that "damned piece of paper " remark ? I'd have hoped you learned your lesson.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Republican Party needs to go away; go away and then come back with new leadership and a new philosophy.

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Seems the Dems were more unified at wanting to give stuff away to the low rent crowd than saving the country from terrorist.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Seems the Dems were more unified at wanting to give stuff away to the low rent crowd than saving the country from terrorist.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people WILL understand.

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Obama is the recipient of W's positive action on the war on Islamo-fascism.

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It's a new world now. People are much more involved now due to cable and the internet. The Left is too well organized and funded for Republicans to overcome. They are out there marching, rallying, protesting, going door-to-door registering new voters, etc etc, but you never see Republicans doing anything like that. They have the media in their hip pocket. They have all the college campuses singing their songs too. They pander to all the different ethnic groups and cultural special interest groups. So tell me, how ya ever going to beat that?

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McCain would have had a fit over Pelosi's $30 million dollar mouse.

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And if you think we're done w/ " stimulus " bills, guess again. We're gonna be doing this all over again NEXT year too!

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McCain would have had a fit over Pelosi's $30 million dollar mouse.

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Cites, please? What's this about a $30 million dollar mouse?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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McCain would have had a fit over Pelosi's $30 million dollar mouse.

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Cites, please? What's this about a $30 million dollar mouse?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Talk about a pet project. A tiny mouse with the longtime backing of a political giant may soon reap the benefits of the economic-stimulus package.

Lawmakers and administration officials divulged Wednesday that the $789 billion economic stimulus bill being finalized behind closed doors in Congress includes $30 million for wetlands restoration that the Obama administration intends to spend in the San Francisco Bay Area to protect, among other things, the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi represents the city of San Francisco and has previously championed preserving the mouse's habitat in the Bay Area.

The revelation immediately became a political football, as Republicans accused Democrats of reneging on a promise to keep so-called earmarks that fund lawmakers' favorite projects out of the legislation. Democrats, including Mrs. Pelosi, countered that the accusations were fabricated.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/earmark-less-bill-give
s-pelosis-mouse-cookie/



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people WILL understand.

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Can you show me in the bill where the mouse is mentioned? I can't seem to find it.

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Yes, Saddam is gone. Hope it was worth the trillions it cost us.

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Obama's trillion , and the subsequent $$ we'll spend establishing the Socialist Utopia state has what to do w/ Iraq again?

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btw there's no mouse

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Obama's trillion , and the subsequent $$ we'll spend establishing the Socialist Utopia state has what to do w/ Iraq again?

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Cites, please? What's this about a $30 million dollar mouse?

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Don't you see how.... twisted... that is? If Clinton's actions had a follow-on effect of a a year or two, don't you think Bush's policies would have the same kind of follow-on effect, which Obama now has to deal with?

I thought your portrayal of the Dem/Repub staircase duel was interesting, though. I'm PRESUMING that the point where you disagree with both parties is deficit spending. Am I right?

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Rapo, the problem is that the catastrophe has ALREADY OCURRED, and it's been occurring for the past three years. We kept trying to tell you that the economy was NOT "on fire" but you wouldn't listen because you wanted Bush to get the credit. But now that everything is unraveling, you're trying to shift the blame:

1) The 2000 recession was Clinton's fault due to the technology bubble.
2) The so-called "on fire " economy was to Bush's credit, but
3) The collapse of the housing bubble is the Dems fault (even tho Bush was in office and Dems weren't even a majority!)

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I thought your portrayal of the Dem/Repub staircase duel was interesting, though. I'm PRESUMING that the point where you disagree with both parties is deficit spending. Am I right?

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