Pop Goes The Pelosi by Jongsstraw

America loves a winner!

She knows this is her last best chance to con the American public. It falls in line w/ the rush, rush, rush of the Enormulus bill, and then moving on to the NEXT massive grab by the Imperial Federal Gov't.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:38 AM

Congressmen, who have never found the time to actually read the grotesque spending bill, sure found time to place markers on chairs early in the day to reserve their seats for a chance to meet Robin Obama and his merry men as they entered the chamber. I wonder if even Obama has actually read the 1000+ page liberal political payback plan.

A special moment for me was when the 3 RINOs came a'prancing in along side their Democrat masters, and took their dutiful place by their sides. A water bowl and bisquit treats were provided for them I'm sure.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:30 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

A special moment for me was when the 3 RINOs came a'prancing in along side their Democrat masters, and took their dutiful place by their sides. A water bowl and bisquit treats were provided for them I'm sure.

Wow, I'm humbled in the face of this bi-partisan discussion y'all are having here.

Sorry you can't take the positive words concerning the greatness of America to heart; I guess you think Obama is incorrect- we are stupid & weak & will fail miserably as a nation now.
Oh well, enjoy your chicken little. Mine was in seeing this fall happen. Yours is obviously in believing we can never get up from it.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:39 AM

Lol, my mom said she looked ready to jump Obama's bones, but I think that maybe she was just stimulated by his package :)

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:44 AM

Good to see they haven't run out of Kool-Aid yet Chris. Bi-partisanship? Shirley, you jest! All Pelosi says these days is We won, you lost. We make the rules. Get over it. If you can't see through what all this is then I guess, well I guess that's somethin'.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:47 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Lol, my mom said she looked ready to jump Obama's bones, but I think that maybe she was just stimulated by his package :)

Score one for mom!

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:54 AM

America loves a winner!

Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem.

Until everyone comes to understand that simple fact, we're doomed.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:54 AM

I'm just sayin' that if McCain had gotten in, he'd be doin' what Obama is- sure, a tweak here & there, but basically the same thing (albeit with the added threat of a Palin takeover should he fall ill).

If McCain had won, and he had the sense to keep Sarah quiet, you'd be hearing far less negativity from me than I seem to be hearing from you. That's all I'm sayin'.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:59 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem.

I would change that to "BAD Government is the problem."
Bad as in not transparent, which is at least one important thing Obama is addressing. Hate him if you want, but a good thing is a good thing, no matter who does it.

Curious AU, would you just let our economy totally collapse to fix the problem? Take government totally out of the equation?

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:08 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I'm just sayin' that if McCain had gotten in, he'd be doin' what Obama is- sure, a tweak here & there, but basically the same thing (albeit with the added threat of a Palin takeover should he fall ill).

If McCain had won, and he had the sense to keep Sarah quiet, you'd be hearing far less negativity from me than I seem to be hearing from you. That's all I'm sayin'.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

Chris, if I've been "negative" as you allude to, I have maybe gone too far. I'm NOT wishing for the Dems & Obama to fail. I'm just a bystander trying, if not successfully, to inject some humor into the situation. Obama, to me, sounds like he's still campaigning. He speaks in flowery alliteration, making broad visionary statements of Lincolnesque proportions. Unfortunately, I don't believe a word of any of it, and the Pelosi-Reid politics behind it all sickens me.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:15 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
He speaks in flowery alliteration, making broad visionary statements of Lincolnesque proportions.

I say, COOL!
Yeah, I could have done without Pelosi doing her Jack-in-the-box imitation, but I wanna hear my President talk about us rising back up to greatness.
It sure beats all that "OOOOooo, the terrorists will get us" crap from a previous Administration which shall remain nameless.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:19 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I say, COOL!
Yeah, I could have done without Pelosi doing her Jack-in-the-box imitation, but I wanna hear my President talk about us rising back up to greatness.
It sure beats all that "OOOOooo, the terrorists will get us" crap from a previous Administration which shall remain nameless.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

I guess 9/11 never did happen, did it ? Must be nice to ignore ISLAMO-FASCIST evil and pretend everything those monsters have done all around th world simply never happened.

And America never fell from greatness. That's something the Left wishes were the case, and in fact WANTS us to fail. The way Obama has us headed, we will be the FORMER Great nation, and our future really will be bleak.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:26 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I guess 9/11 never did happen, did it ? Must be nice to ignore ISLAMO-FASCIST evil and pretend everything those monsters have done all around th world simply never happened.

Spoken like a true lapdog. You fell for it, big time. You will now support war into the 23rd Century on the basis of a single incident. Long after the rest of those that perped 9-11 are dead, they'll have you yellin' for blood like a good little hound. Enjoy your mindless participation in the fear mongering, dude.

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And America never fell from greatness.

Sanctioning torture ALONE did that. But since the boob tube taught you what to believe & when, there is no point in a debate here.

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The way Obama has us headed, we will be the FORMER Great nation, and our future really will be bleak.

Don't worry, if Bush could not destroy us, there is no way Obama can either.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:35 AM

Chris, did you miss the memo? Bush *did* destroy America. Now we have just Americ. After Obama we'll only have Ameri, and after JEB, We'll have the Amero!

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:38 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Now we have just Americ.

50 lashes with a wet noodle for you!

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:39 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
He speaks in flowery alliteration, making broad visionary statements of Lincolnesque proportions.
I say, COOL!
Yeah, I could have done without Pelosi doing her Jack-in-the-box imitation, but I wanna hear my President talk about us rising back up to greatness.
It sure beats all that "OOOOooo, the terrorists will get us" crap from a previous Administration which shall remain nameless.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

Glad you can at least acknowledge the Pelosi follies last night. As for the rest, I think this demonstrates perfectly how different folks feel about politics. Back in the early Bush days I was quite proud and happy to see Bush and America finally going after the terrorists who had attacked us multiple times over many years. It felt good, but I couldn't understand why those on the other side of the aisle couldn't appreciate the direction, or what was at stake, and instead sought to attack, demean, and obstruct every chance they got. Now the shoe's on the other foot, and you're having a hard time (maybe?) understanding why the 60+ million people who voted for McCain don't get the "Chris Mathews thrill up the leg" feeling about Obama as you do. I want America's economy to recover, and I hold Bush to blame for much of the mess. Anyone who doesn't want to see America come out of this is a traitor or just nuts. But it is interesting how people and things are perceived by different people in so many different intellectual and emotional ways.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:39 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
we will be the FORMER Great nation, and our future really will be bleak.

"America really thought they had it dialed in money hanging out the butt. But it was all just a bunch of ones and zeroes in a computer someplace. So, when that bomb went ka-blooey and the electromagnetic pulse turned all the ones and zeroes into plain old zeroes, everyone's like, "no way." Now, America's just another broke ex-super power looking for a handout and wondering why."

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It felt good, but I couldn't understand why those on the other side of the aisle couldn't appreciate the direction, or what was at stake, and instead sought to attack, demean, and obstruct every chance they got.

When Bush blasted the Taliban in Afghanistan I was right there cheering.
It was his re-direction to Iraq I didn't cheer for.

Gonna waste a trillion dollars? At least do it in this country.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:50 AM

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I say, COOL!
Yeah, I could have done without Pelosi doing her Jack-in-the-box imitation, but I wanna hear my President talk about us rising back up to greatness.
It sure beats all that "OOOOooo, the terrorists will get us" crap from a previous Administration which shall remain nameless.

You gotta take your hope filter off. It's filtering out the excessive fear mongering I heard last night. Not only are the terrorists going to get us, now the totally doomed economy that's falling apart and destroying america and going to rob you in your sleep is going to get and you'll have no home and no health coverage and probably die of some horrible disease. But if you come with me, I can put you in debt for life, and then you might live. I think that was the speech I just heard.

Seriously, no offense, the Obama fell travellers sound as bad as the Bush fellow travellers. And I was really psyched for this speech. I was expecting big change. Instead I heard doom and gloom and a little stealth tactics like "lets sell handing over tons of corporate welfare to banks and drug companies as "helping people" and let's sell unchecked wars of aggression as "moving towards peace."

Democrat talking points are just slightly different than Republican ones:

In Republican, it's "My agenda will keep us safe, protect us from enemies, and make business thrive."

In Democrat it's "My agenda will make peace, and help poor people, not greedy CEOS."

But read between the lines, it's the identical f^&king agenda, just worded differently to sell it to democrats instead of selling it to republicans.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:57 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

You gotta take your hope filter off.

No! NO I won't!! I NEED my hope filter!

Okay, there; it's off.

I still think Obama is better for this country (& the world)than Bush. Not that that's a monumental achievement or anything.
But until Obama fails us without correcting it, I am a fan.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:05 AM

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I still think Obama is better for this country (& the world)than Bush.

Hmm... this hotdog tastes better than the dogsh*t I picked off the street earlier

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Not that that's a monumental achievement or anything.

No kidding

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But until Obama fails us without correcting it, I am a fan.

I was, but I think the sh*t hit that fan last night for me. I'm glad the sheep are still on the hope train, I want to ride the new image of a new america, and maybe get myself some of that bailout. Say, the guys from Dubai are coming to town. Maybe I can swing a million. What do you suppose they might want, some sort of service that could be provided.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:15 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It felt good, but I couldn't understand why those on the other side of the aisle couldn't appreciate the direction, or what was at stake, and instead sought to attack, demean, and obstruct every chance they got.
When Bush blasted the Taliban in Afghanistan I was right there cheering.
It was his re-direction to Iraq I didn't cheer for.

Gonna waste a trillion dollars? At least do it in this country.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

I can understand your souring on Iraq after the many blunders that occurred, but why against it at the onset? Did you have intelligence available to you that Congress didn't. Certainly, it's well documented that many, many Dems including Clinton, Kennedy, Biden, Liebermann, Kerry, etc etc ALL believed Iraq had WMD's and said so publicly many times. I'll admit the Colin Powell dog & pony show at the UN was very embarassing to see, and our allies' refusals to help us was bewildering, but I did originally believe in the cause. There was no reason not to. Looting, Paul Bremer, Abu Grahib, Al Qaeda infiltration all were yet to come. One in my shoes would have never imagined those debacles possible. I trusted the Govt. to have planning & intelligence, and it failed for years, until the surge swept out most of the bad guys. Now the Stimulus Pkg. plus add'l new Dem spending giveaways.... No one knows where America will end up.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:53 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"I did originally believe in the cause. There was no reason not to."

There were plenty of reasons not to - all available in the media, albeit usually only once and at odd times. In other words, you had to look sharply to see them.

The hasty exit from Afghanistan when just a few months before the US had been whipped into a frenzy with 'Dead or Alive !', the aluminum tubes the DOE said were useless as centrifuge tubes but which might make good missile bodies; the forged yellowcake documents; known unreliable source called 'Curveball'; the Senate report Part I (Part II never materialized); the fact that US troops were NOT equipped with proper CBW protective gear; the hasty timetable; THE FACT THAT UN INSPECTORS WERE NOT FINDING WMDS AND WERE NOT ALLOWED TO FINISH THEIR INSPECTIONS - there were many, many tracks all over the place showing that the Iraq attack was a pre-planned act of aggression that had nothing to do with WMDs.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:54 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

I can understand your souring on Iraq after the many blunders that occurred, but why against it at the onset?

I just "felt" wrong, like hitting the kid in front of you for something a kid out of reach did.

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Did you have intelligence available to you that Congress didn't.

Yes. I'm outside of it. I don't have to think inside the box. I've grown up with Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iran-Contra, and I know how these guys think sometimes. Misdirection is the most common tool in the kit. If it seems wrong, it usually is.

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Certainly, it's well documented that many, many Dems including Clinton, Kennedy, Biden, Liebermann, Kerry, etc etc ALL believed Iraq had WMD's and said so publicly many times.

But they never said how these weapons would be delivered. I'm no missile expert, but I know it takes more than a SCUD to get a bomb to our shores from there. And last I saw, no ICBM's were discovered by weapons inspectors. Plus the rush to go to invade...that's when I knew we were going in for dumb reasons, especially when Afghanistan was just sitting there.

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I trusted the Govt. to have planning & intelligence

LOL, the government boils down to one man, if he can't form a coherent run-on sentence, chances are the planning & intelligence will fall by the wayside as well. The so called experts are guys like you & me, differently trained is all. Very few James Bonds, Jack Ryans, or MENSA members in the bunch, as in most things.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:01 AM

America loves a winner!

Chris,

9/11 was only one in a long, LONG list of events. A list you clearly have you head in the sand over, and completely ignore.

We didn't sanction torture, we dealt w/ an enemy which has no nation, no uniform, and signs no treaty. For you to continue this facade of complete ignorance, after all that's gone on in the world over the pat 20 yrs, is nothing short of pathetic.

Bush saved us, so Obama could ruin us.

clap, clap, clap.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:02 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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AuLapdog wrote:

Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem.

Until everyone comes to understand that simple fact, we're doomed.

So why were you behind installing our own government in Iraq? Aren't you saying we just CREATED the problem there?

Seems that, as usual, even YOU can't come to understand that simple fact. You were FOR big government before you were against it, eh?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:03 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

I can understand your souring on Iraq after the many blunders that occurred, but why against it at the onset?
I just "felt" wrong, like hitting the kid in front of you for something a kid out of reach did.
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Did you have intelligence available to you that Congress didn't.
Yes. I'm outside of it. I don't have to think inside the box. I've grown up with Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iran-Contra, and I know how these guys think sometimes. Misdirection is the most common tool in the kit. If it seems wrong, it usually is.
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Certainly, it's well documented that many, many Dems including Clinton, Kennedy, Biden, Liebermann, Kerry, etc etc ALL believed Iraq had WMD's and said so publicly many times.
But they never said how these weapons would be delivered. I'm no missile expert, but I know it takes more than a SCUD to get a bomb to our shores from there. And last I saw, no ICBM's were discovered by weapons inspectors. Plus the rush to go to invade...that's when I knew we were going in for dumb reasons, especially when Afghanistan was just sitting there.
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I trusted the Govt. to have planning & intelligence
LOL, the government boils down to one man, if he can't form a coherent run-on sentence, chances are the planning & intelligence will fall by the wayside as well. The so called experts are guys like you & me, differently trained is all. Very few James Bonds, Jack Ryans, or MENSA members in the bunch, as in most things.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

Since it was well-documented that Iraq was paying families of suicide bombers in Palestine, it didn't seem THAT far of a reasonable stretch to believe that Iraq could "hand off" some WMD gas or biological toxin to terrorists groups. They wouldn't necesarily need ICBM's to deliver them. At least that's what I thought.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:10 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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AuLapdog wrote:

Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem.

Until everyone comes to understand that simple fact, we're doomed.

So why were you behind installing our own government in Iraq? Aren't you saying we just CREATED the problem there?

We aren't. The Iraqis are installing their own Gov't, which their own people vote for.

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Seems that, as usual, even YOU can't come to understand that simple fact. You were FOR big government before you were against it, eh?
Meaningless and empty reply on your part. There's nothing for me to answer to, as you're simply making up shit for the sake of taking personal shots now.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:52 AM

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We aren't. The Iraqis are installing their own Gov't, which their own people vote for.

"We aren't"

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that WE HAVE installed our own puppet regime in Iraq, and it's been in place since 2003. So while technically "we aren't", it's a certainty that WE WERE as little as 4 years ago - and I don't remember you having a single problem with it then, when it was your beloved Bush in charge of the BIG government.

So either government is the problem, or it's the solution. Not both.

[Edited to add: Sorry, sniper got me mid-sentence. I got interrupted and distracted, and posted a sentence fragment.]

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Meaningless and empty reply on your part. There's nothing for me to answer to, as you're simply making up shit for the sake of taking personal shots now.

Meaningless drivel on your part, which is nothing out of the ordinary. Nothing for me to respond to, just you making up more of your bullshit RapFacts™.
Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:39 AM

I hate to interrupt the hate, but auraptor is right. The govt. of Iraq hates us, or at least feels less that passionate about our relationship, in particular, they would like our guys to leave.

This is because we set up a democracy, and they voted some people into office. Talibani, who is actually Taliban, it's not a linguistic coincidence, and Maliki, who is one Sadr's people. This isn't the govt. we might've wanted. We supported moderates that we thought would be better. But ultimately, we weren't the Iraqis, and it wasn't up to us to decide what they wanted. They wanted us gone, about 80% of Iraqis do, a number increasing by about 10% a year, and so they voted for the guys who they thought would get rid of us.

If we really want moderates to win in Iraq, the best thing to do is to let the democracy we set up work, step back, get out of their country, open up trade, start buying their oil, and start selling them ipods.

As for the above comment Jongstraw is right, Saddam Hussein had the weapons the Rummy sold him (that's how we knew. If we hadn't known, we would have made up a better story, because that was a terrible reason to go to war.) And he wasn't a total moron, given the UN resolution, he couldn't be cause with them, so he sold them to someone, probably some terrorist group, maybe one of the ones working for us right now in afghanistan. Our president was a moron in thinking that he would still have some of these agents, there was a lot of talk of sarin nerve gas, which has a very short shelf life, sold to Iraq in 1982, used against Iran, and probably the kurds, suspected of collaborating with Iran, it wouldn't have been very useful 20 years later.

But all of this is kicking a very dead horse.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:47 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"Obama, to me, sounds like he's still campaigning."

He has to.

You may not remember even thought it was mere weeks ago, but he disappeared for 3 weeks or so, trying to work out a plan. He was ready to iron out differences and create a bipartisan effort. But the repubicans were against the bill before they even saw it, and played politics rather than try to help the country. Along with the right-wing lapdog MSM they were spreading lies non-stop about the bill, what was in it, and who was behind it. That's ALL you heard and saw, night and day, for weeks. (Which, btw, you personally ate up with fork and spoon and shovel - as evidenced by the things you've posted which come from right-wing country through MSM; and which are demonstrably untrue.)

He had to go back to campaign mode, and will probably be in that mode until he sees he no longer has to counter partisan politics.

BTW I have Dubya's first speech on my computer. Look it up. It's lame, lame, lame.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:38 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I want to know what drug Pelosi was on last night that caused her to spring up and down 61 times like a prairie dog in heat. Man, she was all pumped and primed and determined to be the first one up each time, even getting a bit of a head start each time before Obama would finished his sentence.

I tuned in and saw the camera angle with her right over BO's shoulder and gasped - AH! I can't watch this! I'll have to catch the transcript.
I think she wants desperately to help, be of value, but she's a drag instead. She will be one of the main reasons the (male majority) Reps won't come together with Obama - she has been gifted with a large supply anti-charisma and people are simple at every level.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:40 AM

Rue, although I usually disagree with you, most of the time I can at least understand you. But this is new for even you: Right-Wing mainstream media??? What exactly is that? Is it :

NY Times............not
Washington Post.....not
Boston Globe........not
LA Times............not
San Francisco Chronicle...not
Atlanta Journal....not

or

NBC.....not
ABC......not
CBS......not
MSNBC...not
CNN.....not
PBS.....not

So what remains as Right-Wing Mainstream Media? Must be Fox News on TV, and Rush on radio. Those 2 little entities against the muscle and wealth of all of the above? Puuullleeeeeze, gimme a break!

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:17 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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And America never fell from greatness...

... 'cause the economy's on f*cking FIRE! dontcha know! And that 3.6 billion dollars in loot...er, I mean bonuses ... that Merril executives helped themselves to before they got taken over?

THAT'S what made America great!!!!! And clearly we're still right on-target with that!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:22 PM

FREMDFIRMA

The only sensible thing said in the whole thread and it comes out of Rappys mouth, ain't that a hoot.

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Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem.

Until everyone comes to understand that simple fact, we're doomed.

Of course, he follows up by proudly displaying what he REALLY meant was...

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Non-GOP Government is not the solution to our problems. Anyone elses Government IS the problem.

Rappy, you can't flame "Government" and shill for the GOP at the same time, it looks ridiculous, and in case ya didn't notice, they're Government too!

That's like shilling for an Anarchist King, it makes no sense.

All that said, NOBODY likes Pelosi, there's a bull market in dartboards there, anyone wants to go free enterprise and tap it - course they'd prolly whine that such was a terrorist threat...
*eyeroll*

-F

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:31 PM

Frem,
rofl
lol
and well said on all points.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:35 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Jonggstraw: The media NEVER represents "the left". It's like DT said in the other thread: you could have 10,000 people marching against the war and "the media" would say "Marchers were on both sides of the question" and then show you six people from each side. That's why you never heard from the MSM about the dozens of antiCAFTA peeps who were gassed and clubbed in Miami or the Oakland antiwar dockworkers who were beaten.

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At the start of the war in Iraq, hundreds of protesters demonstrated on the Oakland docks, and longshoremen honored their picket lines. Without warning, police in riot gear opened fire with so-called less-than-lethal weapons, shooting protesters and longshoremen alike with wooden dowels, rubber bullets, pellet bags, concussion grenades and tear gas. A U.N. Human Rights Commission investigator characterized the Oakland police attack as "the most violent" against anti-war protesters in the United States.

www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/09/ED8L101F5U.DTL
MSM is nothing if not corporatist. They're all about the money. The LAST thing they want you doing is peeping under their skirts.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:52 PM

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We didn't sanction torture, we dealt w/ an enemy which has no nation, no uniform, and signs no treaty.

I'm truly sorry that you are such an idiot. Really.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:09 PM

America loves a winner!

Chris,

Your ignorance of the state of the world isn't going to change by you acting childish and calling me names.

I'm sorry, that you think it will, but it simply won't.

Ever.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:11 PM

America loves a winner!

I never said this ....

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Non-GOP Government is not the solution to our problems. Anyone elses Government IS the problem.,

nor did I even suggested as such. Another straw man you've set up for me to knock down.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:21 PM

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I'm sorry, that you think

I'm sorry that you don't.
We sanctioned torture, water's wet, women have secrets; who gives a f**k?
Go s**t in your own yard.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:46 PM

FREMDFIRMA

And Rappy sez..

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nor did I even suggested as such.

(and really, I'd like ten minutes in a dark alley with your english teacher sometimes, buddy...)

So, um, what was this, then ?

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The way Obama has us headed, we will be the FORMER Great nation, and our future really will be bleak.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:59 PM

America loves a winner!

WOW - Take quotes out of context much?

And I guess you'd hang Joss up for butchering the Queen's English as well, huh?

The way you butcher what others say gives you exactly no right to fuss over - ANYTHING.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:01 PM

America loves a winner!

I'd rather torture 100 terrorist than allow one of them to murder an innocent. You care more about the rights of the terrorist than you do your own family.

Sucks to be you.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:06 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

And I'd rather torture 100 innocents than allow one of them to do..... nothing?

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:07 PM

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The LAST thing they want you doing is peeping under their skirts.

Wait just a darn minute, Signy - are you saying I'm not supposed to look under Lara Logan's skirt?

Damn it all to hell.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:10 PM

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And I guess you'd hang Joss up for butchering the Queen's English as well, huh?

Um, not so much. Joss has proven time and again that he has an astute knowledge and command of the language. As such, he gets some leeway to mangle it a bit, because he knows what he's doing.

You, on the other hand, have never shown any such mastery of the language. Far from it. English > You.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:16 PM

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I'd rather torture 100 terrorist than allow one of them to murder an innocent. You care more about the rights of the terrorist than you do your own family.

Actually, I think you're just fine with torturing 100 innocents in the hopes of finding one terrorist.

I'm supposed to care about the rights of EVERYBODY exactly as much as I care about the rights of my own family. That's the idea behind "equal protection under the law." I know such lofty goals are beyond you, but it was the idea the founding fathers had, that the least of us were exactly as deserving of the rule of law as the best of us.

You remind me very much of young Will Roper in "A Man For All Seasons"...

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William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:52 PM