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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
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Ok, can we please get Ron Paul in charge?

The bailouts have failed, the Dems have nothing and the Repubs are hoarding.

Do we have to wait until there are shootouts over milk before we actually get rid of all the people in government and put in the right (CONSTITUTIONAL) people in power?

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok, its been 3 seconds...

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

But no one cares about experience when they have THE ONE in charge. Oh, isn't it beautiful ? The guy who's never been in charge of ANYTHING ever before is thrust into the leadership role of the most powerful nation in the history of mankind.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yanno what??


My view of "the Dow" dropping is...

GOOD!!!!!


I'd like to see the whole stock market shit-canned.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
AU,

Hehehehehehe I remember reading this when I was a kid.

Good find.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Sig doesn't care, she is invested elsewhere.

She wants to see a lot of people, long-term, hardworking folks, like my grandparents loose all their money.

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Wonder if the Libs realize how many hard working teachers, police and firemen and the like have stocks as part of their retirement package, and have suffered greatly, WILL suffer greatly under Obama's capitalistic crushing ideals.

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AIG reports biggest quarterly loss in corporate history, government revamps rescue.... The stock losses Monday were in response to AIG, but also a continuation of the worries about the financial sector and the economy, said Bill Stone, chief investment strategist at PNC Financial Services.

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
down 300 points - we shot past 7000 like it was nothing. I see the Mossberg 590 gets good reviews for home defense.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok, can we please get Ron Paul in charge?

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok, can we please get Ron Paul in charge?

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No way man.

Like I read the other day "Ron Paul may be right, but he's fringe and just not in touch with mainstream consensus."

Let's hear if for "consensus"!

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Originally posted by rue:
People who were in the stock market were looking to get rich quick. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have realized you don't generate that amount of real value over such a short time.

But hey, if you want to be REAL 'capitalists' instead of cry-baby hypocrites looking to blame government for YOUR bad investments, suck it up and buy into the market now, while it's low.

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Originally posted by rue:
You can't con an honest person.

People who were in the stock market were looking to get rich quick. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have realized you don't generate that amount of real value over such a short time.

But hey, if you want to be REAL 'capitalists' instead of cry-baby hypocrites looking to blame government for YOUR bad investments, suck it up and buy into the market now, while it's low.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Man, the S-12 is like, mongo overkill for home defense - I mean, seriously, it's like a freakin portable artillery barrage with that 20 round drum on it.

The widowmaker drum mag sucks, the MD Arms version is way better and more reliable.

The peg on mine is left-side horizontal, which in combination with a patrol sling allows one to fire from a low-carry position, which is entirely effective within it's range with a little practice.

Check your state and local regs though, cause my variant is cutting it kinda fine on the legalese, although still within compliance.

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People put their common sense on hold when it comes to investing. The stock market is always sold as a way to keep ahead of inflation. Believe me, I've heard the same blah blah blah countless times from the same kind of smarmy 'investment advisors'. (And then they trot out the chart - usually the DOW - going from 1929 to whatever the current date is, and some bank interest chart and say SEE! you're LOSING money if you don't invest !)

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Does anyone here remember the S&L Crisis?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Mikey, you really won't comprehend how heinous that thing is till you've dumped a 20 rounder into something - I am NOT kidding when I say it's like a portable arty barrage, cause that's the only thing that even comes close to it's ability to cause carnage downrange.

I have however noticed that in most of those vids recoil flinch and inexperience causes most of them folk to put their follow on fire needlessly on top of the last shot, which doesn't give such a good perspective - someone who's properly mastered walking the point of aim across would give a better show of it.

I think part of that is that they're using full charge loads of double-ought buck, which is absolutely the WRONG round to be using for the weapon in a defensive role with a high capacity magazine, and in the original internal configuration the recoil will be so brutal it precludes accuracy and may even damage the weapon over time.

The rounds I use are 3/4charge 2-3/4" shells, and while marked Single-O, actually contain sixteen pellets of pinchover, rather than drop shot, and a layered paper wad rather than a styrofoam chunk.

Gives a good spread and virtually guarantees a vital organ puncture on an unarmored target, with the same amount of kinetic energy delivered downrange, but far less to you in the form of recoil, also allowing for a faster cycle time with a properly tuned recoil buffer.

One other note, particularly with the MD-Arms drum, is that if you store like I do, loaded with one up the pipe, I highly recommend replacing the first round in the magazine with a full brass shell, cause over time it'll squash the plastic ones into kind of an oval shape and could perhaps cause a load failure jam - which on your second shot is a definate brick passer moment, right ?

It's a right evil piece of work it is, and if you're planning to use it in a home defense role, you might consider just how much it's gonna cost to replace your front door, wall, windows and any electrical conduits you're gonna obliterate with that monster if you unload - cause it can happen that way.

It's really overkill for a home defense application to be honest.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wonder if the Libs realize how many hard working teachers, police and firemen and the like have stocks as part of their retirement package, and have suffered greatly, WILL suffer greatly under Obama's capitalistic crushing ideals.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Rush keeps saying he wants Obama to fail, but that's going to pull an awful lot of people down with him if it happens.

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Also, if the bailouts are all cut off, and the whole thing is allowed to collapse, as many on the right have suggested it should do so the market can "correct" itself, then realize that YOU are also wishing for all of those good and honest people to be punished for having faith in the system and putting their money in.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Peeps like Crapo, they want the Disneyworld version of capitalism not, yanno real capitalism. They want RISK-FREE capitalism that booms 24-7.

That's like asking for a freezing-hot day. And then they get pissed off when Obama can't make it happen.

This IS capitalism, folks. Boom and bust. Deal with it and stop whining.

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You're all fools, and when the FDIC goes tits up, and they replace it with something else, just like they did with the FSLIC, you won't never be getting a damn thing but a stack of new promises every bit as false as the old ones.

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backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. Government.

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