Suddenly Palin's botched Kouric interview is... still retarded by OPPYH

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"What are you talking about???"

Hello,

I was commenting that last night, the title of this thread as it appeared on the main/home page was different than the correct title of this thread. I copy and pasted it so you could see. I found it odd.

The title of the thread on the thread listing last night was, "Suddenly Palin's botched Kouric interview is... kind of retarded."

I was wondering about that, because it's very strange that the title of a thread on the main page should be different than the current title of the thread.

There were two possibilities that occurred to me.

1) Someone had hacked/vandalized the site, changing the thread title as it appeared on the main page and thread listing.

2) The person who created the thread initially used one title for the thread, and then switched to a new title. But the listings did not immediately change to reflect that.

While the thread title in all areas now displays correctly, I am puzzled about what occurred. I hope this explains my puzzlement in more detail.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:49 AM

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"Glad you don't see it though. I wish I were immune to ugly comments from the frikkin president."

"Hello,
you have outlived your usefullness on this site.
You can leave any time. You won't be missed."

Hello,

It would seem that you are equally capable of ugly comments, Sir or Madam.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:58 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Someone had hacked/vandalized the site, changing the thread title as it appeared on the main page and thread listing.

That's hardly a hack, it happens all the time.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:01 AM

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"So, I guess you don't realize how equivocating stupidity and the mentally disabled is insulting, then. In the first place, being mentally disabled is very different from being stupid; in the second place, stupidity is generally a negative trait, which adds to the way that people generally think being "retarded" is a negative trait.

I consider "retard" as pretty much on the same level with "cunt" and "n*gg*r" in terms of how ugly they are, whether or not most people recognize it."

Hello,

First, I should confess my prejudices. I consider a mental handicap to be a generally negative trait. In my estimation, a mental handicap produces quantifiable, measurable deficiencies. These deficiencies are in fact measured, by scientists and doctors, in the process of diagnosing someone with a disability.

That having been said, I do not consider someone with a mental handicap to be 'useless' unless their handicap renders them so. They may still be able to perform ably in the service of their communities and families. Indeed, the Special Olympics exists as proof that tasks can be completed regardless of handicap. If not as well, then at least as vigorously and perhaps with even more enthusiasm.

Now, none of this excuses the idea of using a term for people that they find distasteful. I honestly never gave much thought to the word 'retard' as derogatory to the group in question. In the past few days, the word has been much publicized as an insult by related agencies, and I shall do my best to curb such speech in the future. This will take time. I have used the word often.

Our president did not use the word retard, incidentally. He compared his performance while bowling to that of a Special Olympian. And he did so much more kindly than I have in the past when regarding my own performance.

And so, as I have sinned, I can find little fault with his brief and rapidly recognized gaffe of minor proportions.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:08 AM

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Thank you AnthonyT, for reminding me of what an honorable person is like.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Or did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

Mike

I would take offense at the SO retard remark (having done Special Olympics for over a decade)...if I actually cared about the RWED.

No need for a response, just putting it out there.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:54 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"So, I guess you don't realize how equivocating stupidity and the mentally disabled is insulting, then. In the first place, being mentally disabled is very different from being stupid; in the second place, stupidity is generally a negative trait, which adds to the way that people generally think being "retarded" is a negative trait.

I consider "retard" as pretty much on the same level with "cunt" and "n*gg*r" in terms of how ugly they are, whether or not most people recognize it."

Hello,

First, I should confess my prejudices. I consider a mental handicap to be a generally negative trait. In my estimation, a mental handicap produces quantifiable, measurable deficiencies. These deficiencies are in fact measured, by scientists and doctors, in the process of diagnosing someone with a disability.

That having been said, I do not consider someone with a mental handicap to be 'useless' unless their handicap renders them so. They may still be able to perform ably in the service of their communities and families. Indeed, the Special Olympics exists as proof that tasks can be completed regardless of handicap. If not as well, then at least as vigorously and perhaps with even more enthusiasm.

Now, none of this excuses the idea of using a term for people that they find distasteful. I honestly never gave much thought to the word 'retard' as derogatory to the group in question. In the past few days, the word has been much publicized as an insult by related agencies, and I shall do my best to curb such speech in the future. This will take time. I have used the word often.

Our president did not use the word retard, incidentally. He compared his performance while bowling to that of a Special Olympian. And he did so much more kindly than I have in the past when regarding my own performance.

And so, as I have sinned, I can find little fault with his brief and rapidly recognized gaffe of minor proportions.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

I'm with Anthony - I used the word, and OVER-used it, in an attempt to "needle" Hyppo and AuCoward. Clearly I stepped over the line into outright offensiveness to those whom I actually have a great deal of respect for: YinYang, Rue, Signy, and others.

YinYang's points, especially, made me re-think WHY I laugh at Mencia's jokes about the mentally handicapped. I came to the realization that it's more an uncomfortable laugh than it is a "that's funny" laugh. Much like the "porch monkey" scene from Clerks II, it's funny because it's WRONG, and you can't believe that someone is actually saying it out loud.

You will notice, though, that I've said pretty much from the outset that it was a bone-headed remark for Obama to make, that it was a mistake, and that HOPEFULLY some good could come out of it. I still hold to that - my hope is that the Special Olympics will get so much support and money because of this that they won't know how to begin to spend it all. I'm not implying that Obama said what he said in order to shine a light on Special Olympics and MHMR causes, but that out of the bad, some good could still come.

Again, apologies to all, and peace,

Mike

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:20 AM

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Hello,

On that note, I wonder if I might not comment on something I've noticed since my return to the board.

I took a break from the board because the vitriol seemed rather thick around election time, with many people arguing badly (that is to say, arguing with bad technique) due to their emotional investment in the election results. I estimated that after a short time away, things might settle down again to a low, manageable roar.

But I've noticed as I read posts that certain members of the community are being regularly and openly derided with nicknames such as 'Hippo' and 'AuCoward.'

If we are all to agree that it is polite to call someone by the name that they wish to be called (Hence, not referring to the mentally challenged as 'retards' because they don't like it) then shall we also leave off this new habit of carelessly insulting someone every time we write their name?

It seems akin to the cruel gradeschool games, like calling little Mary Poppins 'Poopyhead Poppins' because you don't like her.

I don't think that we should on the one hand strive to avoid offending one group of people, and on the other hand strive equally hard to purposefully offend other people.

Not to mention that you lose the upper hand of moral superiority when you start calling someone a boogerface, eh?

If we are to best our opponents, we must never dehumanize them, or reduce them to one-dimensional concepts of derision. Even the bad guys are people, a concept which the open-minded amongst us are charged to remember. In fact, 'even the bad guys are people' is often the essential difference of opinion between the so-called 'AuCowards' of the world and the people who oppose them. When we are reduced to name-calling, then the difference between the 'right' side and the 'wrong' side becomes quite difficult to discern.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:30 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

I know for AuCoward, making fun of dead Canadian troops is all in light-hearted fun, and making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women ("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it) is all well and good. I'm just not sure I can properly gauge where the bar is in what's "funny" and okay to joke about, and what's off limits and worthy of outrage.

Or is this just so much more phony indignation?

Mike

I'll take this post 1st, as I think it's important.

There's a great t.v. series on History Channel now, ' How the Earth was Made '. But what we have here is ' How a Liberal Lie is made '.

The false premise is first laid down, that being there was ANYONE making fun of "dead Canadian troops". I never did any such thing, not even remotely. The only area where Canadian Troops were even DISCUSSED on this entire forum was the FOX show - Red Eye thread, and comments directed toward the Canadian military taking some time off after its service in Afghanistan. No where in that entire story was ANYTHING said about dead, fallen, injured, wounded Canadian soldiers. The STORY WASN'T ABOUT ANY OF THAT! Another poster, misstressarah, some how added to the story the part of the fallen service men being brought home, but that was COMPLETELY outside the point of what was shown on the Red Eye show.

They weren't talking about the Canadian military in response to, in conjunction with, in addition to, or an ANY way related to the fact that any Canada's fallen heroes were being brought home and laid to rest. MISSTRESSARAHA added that on, HERSELF.

I didn't say it. None of the folks on the Red Eye show remotely dealt with it. It was completely and absolutely outside the context of what was being discussed! There was ZERO connection between the 2 stories. As Kaylee would say... " there just isn't " .

Now, the " making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women " comment.

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("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it)

I never said it, kwickie, so your BELIEFS are wrong. I was commenting on the story in which Israel Military t-shirts , being worn by those in the Israeli Military , showed an armed, pregnant Muslim woman , in a burka, and the caption " 1 shot , 2 kills ". I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! It had NOTHING to do w/ me. Piratenews was the one who posted the gorram story, NOT ME! And here you have the routine twisting, distortion and fabricating out of thin air that *I* phrased that caption, when 0 % of what Kwickie says is TRUE!

This is why so many gang up on me, on conservatives, because stories get told wrong, or lies get started, and instead of dealing in the FACTS, folks simply react to what some one ELSE says, and then base their hatred or love for someone else based on those distortions!

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:50 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Thank you AnthonyT, for reminding me of what an honorable person is like.

Ditto - welcome back Mr T.!

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:50 AM

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America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Were you all this outraged when Bush poked fun at the blind reporter?

Or when, as governor of Texas, he had retarded people EXECUTED by lethal injection?

Just curious.

A blind reporter ? A grown man?
If Bush really did such a thing, then shame on him. But that still doesn't excuse O for his comments against mentally challenged children.

The president said, ''We should never execute anybody who is retarded.'' He then added that ''our court system protects people who don't understand the nature of the crime they've committed.''

Maybe if you could be more specific, I could better reply. I'm not aware of ANY retarded inmates Bush had put to death. The Fed Gov't carried out a death sentence,but that was outside of Bush's influence.

Bush did carry out the death sentence of a 'alleged ' born again Christian,Karla Faye Tucker and I supported that as well. Sent the ax murderer home to Jesus sooner than she deserved, though.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:01 AM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I know for AuCoward, making fun of dead Canadian troops is all in light-hearted fun, and making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women ("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it) is all well and good. I'm just not sure I can properly gauge where the bar is in what's "funny" and okay to joke about, and what's off limits and worthy of outrage.

Rap didn't make fun of killing babies. He seriously and honestly said it was a good idea.

See my sig for details of his in-context and unedited remarks on the subject of baby murder.

AURaptor advocates child murder:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:04 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

" I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! "

No, you just reposted it under YOUR handle, one presumes as an expression of what YOU support.

No outrage, faux or otherwise - just tacit acceptance and active dissemination - by you.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:32 AM

RIVERDANCER

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Originally posted by jossisagod:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Or did you MEAN to say that all Spcial Olympics participants are retards?

I would take offense at the SO retard remark ...if I actually cared about the RWED.

It's kind of a shame that you don't care too much, since you seem to be in the unique position on this thread to respond from the point of view of the 'wronged party.' No one else here has any Special Olympian creds, at least none they've spoken up about, so I would be most interested in your full opinion about the whole controversy. However, if you don't care, you don't care, and I can fully respect and understand that.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:38 AM

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I'm not involved with the SO but I have a disabled person in the family and know many others. I don't use the word 'retard', or crip, or spaz or other such terms either. Personally, I winced a bit with what Obama said. He was only trying to make fun of himself, but it was thoughtless and unintentionally mean.

I contrast that with Bush actively making fun of a person begging for their life (execution), actively deriding a reporter wearing sunglasses (blind), executing the mentally challenged ...

That's the nice thing about Bush. He set a bar so low it'd be hard to do worse.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:12 AM

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AuRaptor wrote:
The president said, ''We should never execute anybody who is retarded.'' He then added that ''our court system protects people who don't understand the nature of the crime they've committed.''

Maybe if you could be more specific, I could better reply. I'm not aware of ANY retarded inmates Bush had put to death. The Fed Gov't carried out a death sentence,but that was outside of Bush's influence.

Bush did carry out the death sentence of a 'alleged ' born again Christian,Karla Faye Tucker and I supported that as well. Sent the ax murderer home to Jesus sooner than she deserved, though.

Here ya go. Read 'em and weep.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LOCAL/southwest/08/10/hci.bush.executions/

Yes, he executed at least five mentally retarded inmates during his tenure as governor. And he openly mocked Karla Faye Tucker, laughing while he told others how she begged, "Please don't kill me!" Mocking those on Death Row seems a bit beneath the dignity of a sitting Governor or President, wouldn't you say?

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:26 AM

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A blind reporter ? A grown man?
If Bush really did such a thing, then shame on him. But that still doesn't excuse O for his comments against mentally challenged children.

Odd that you don't remember that; it wasn't really that long ago. Maybe it wasn't covered on Limbaugh's show...

Here's the transcript, from

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_Wallsten_0614.html :

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Bush accidentally mocks blind reporter's 'shades'

RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday June 14, 2006

Exchange between United States President George W. Bush and journalist Peter Wallsten at White House Rose Garden, June 14, 2006:

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah, Peter. You're going to ask that question with those shades on?

PETER WALLSTEN: I can take them off --

BUSH: No, I'm interested in the shade look, seriously here.

WALLSTEN: All right. I'll keep it then.

BUSH: For the viewers, there's no sun. (Scattered laughter.)

WALLSTEN: I guess it depends on your perspective.

BUSH: (Laughs, laughter.) Touche. (Laughter.)

Peter Wallsten is blind.

So, yeah... Same kind of thing - he was trying to be funny, but came off bone-headed and insensitive, not through intentional maliciousness, but rather just a simple screw-up.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Now, the " making fun of shooting pregnant Palestinian women " comment.

Quote:
("one shot, two kills" is how I believe he phrased it)

I never said it, kwickie, so your BELIEFS are wrong. I was commenting on the story in which Israel Military t-shirts , being worn by those in the Israeli Military , showed an armed, pregnant Muslim woman , in a burka, and the caption " 1 shot , 2 kills ". I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! It had NOTHING to do w/ me. Piratenews was the one who posted the gorram story, NOT ME! And here you have the routine twisting, distortion and fabricating out of thin air that *I* phrased that caption, when 0 % of what Kwickie says is TRUE!

No, what YOU said wasn't those exact words, but these:

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When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.

So the catchy phrasing might not have been yours, but it's certain that you share the sentiment: Kill 'em all.

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0 % of what Kwickie says is TRUE!

Even when I referred to you as "he"? So you're NOT a man? I always suspected...

[quote[This is why so many gang up on me, on conservatives, because stories get told wrong, or lies get started, and instead of dealing in the FACTS, folks simply react to what some one ELSE says, and then base their hatred or love for someone else based on those distortions!

Ah - and YOU would never EVER distort or react, eh? I suggest you go back and read your own post about the backlash and outrage against Obama's Special Olympics remarks, and how he didn't apologize until AFTER the outrage started. It's been pretty extensively reported that he called the head of the Special Olympics WELL BEFORE THE SHOW EVEN AIRED to apologize, because he and his staff realized he screwed up and there was going to be fallout from it.

I believe when I called you on your bullshit a while back, you fell back on the old "it's hyperbole" excuse. Seems it's okay for you to use hyperbolic, inflammatory rhetoric, but it's not okay when someone else does it.

Quote:

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

You've even distorted THAT quote, leaving off the key part:

"I love the guy, and I think he's gonna be great. "

See? That's how a Republican Lie - also known as a RapFact™ - is made.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:54 PM

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AuRaptor wrote:

The false premise is first laid down, that being there was ANYONE making fun of "dead Canadian troops". I never did any such thing, not even remotely. The only area where Canadian Troops were even DISCUSSED on this entire forum was the FOX show - Red Eye thread, and comments directed toward the Canadian military taking some time off after its service in Afghanistan. No where in that entire story was ANYTHING said about dead, fallen, injured, wounded Canadian soldiers. The STORY WASN'T ABOUT ANY OF THAT! Another poster, misstressarah, some how added to the story the part of the fallen service men being brought home, but that was COMPLETELY outside the point of what was shown on the Red Eye show.

They weren't talking about the Canadian military in response to, in conjunction with, in addition to, or an ANY way related to the fact that any Canada's fallen heroes were being brought home and laid to rest. MISSTRESSARAHA added that on, HERSELF.

I didn't say it. None of the folks on the Red Eye show remotely dealt with it. It was completely and absolutely outside the context of what was being discussed! There was ZERO connection between the 2 stories.

Mistress closed her post with this:

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And yes, I realize this isn't the mindset of all Americans..... but people up here are really - really pissed.

In other news, Canada has brought home 3 more dead fighting in Afghanistan.

Master Cpl. Scott Francis Vernelli (28), Cpl. Tyler Crooks (24), Trooper Jack Bouthillier (20) and Trooper Corey Joseph Hayes (22) were killed Friday in two roadside bomb blasts in Kandahar province. Eight Canadian soldiers were also wounded. (Department of National Defence)

RIP. And thank you.

to which you responded:

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That's some funny stuff.Red Eye is an over night, light hearted , off beat program that basically pokes fun at everything. I don't think I've seen them once treat any story seriously. That's kinda the point.

Hey Canada, lighten up, eh?

So, yes, it certainly seems as though you're telling her to "lighten up, eh" in regards to their fallen soldiers being brought home - AND in regards to Fox making fun of their military, saying things like "it's time to invade that ridiculous country".

So, yeah - it sure seems like you were poking fun at Canada and Mistress's sadness over her fallen heroes. "Hey, it's all light-hearted fun! Lighten up, eh?" It comes across as pretty crass and bone-headed.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:12 PM

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Ehhh - he's gone. Scurried away.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:12 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
" I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP! "

No, you just reposted it under YOUR handle, one presumes as an expression of what YOU support.

No outrage, faux or otherwise - just tacit acceptance and active dissemination - by you.

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And you just showed you're being a troll, and nothing else.

You are no longer a part of any serious conversation here. Dismissed.

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:16 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

So, thanks to Mike we all have the quote:

"When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill."

Tell us you didn't type this. Tell us you didn't mean it. Tell us you didn't advocate killing babies. Tell us you are OUTRAGED !! over this.

C'mon. I dare you.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:19 PM

America loves a winner!

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So, yes, it certainly seems as though you're telling her to "lighten up, eh" in regards to their fallen soldiers being brought home

No, not even remotely. She didn't 'end' the post w/ her outrage over the Red Eye cracking on the Canadian military, SHE STARTED WITH IT!!

Fox News mocks the Canadian military

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37475

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AND in regards to Fox making fun of their military, saying things like "it's time to invade that ridiculous country".

Sorry, flat out wrong again. It wasn't FOX, but the HOST of the show. He was commenting on the absurdity of a nation's military taking a vacation, and that the only way the could even DO such a thing would be if they had us as their next door neighbor, the most powerful military in the world.

I'll not waste any more time on this. I've dressed down the misguided and misplaced outrage.

Why are we still talking about this ? There's nothing to discuss!

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:25 PM

RIVERDANCER

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
In my estimation, a mental handicap produces quantifiable, measurable deficiencies. These deficiencies are in fact measured, by scientists and doctors, in the process of diagnosing someone with a disability.

Another one of those stubborn 'truth' things. While I commend you in every way possible, I'm getting the impression that the stubborn, unpretty truths are to be diligently ignored until they go away. Oh, wait, they're too stubborn to go away, so they'll have to be ignored for perpetuity. The term 'mental retardation' which was no doubt first chosen to avoid the more insulting 'slow' while meaning the same thing will doubtless be replaced by another term, longer and more complicated, until people figure out it means essentially the same thing and the process starts all over again so no one will take offense.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:29 PM