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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
What the morally bankrupt and corrupt politicians of today need is a good ole' fashioned tarring & feathering. Seeing Pelosi, Dodd, Barney Frank and others run out of Washington under the lashings of a cat-o-nine-tails, then stripped and covered in hot tar, would be the justice they deserve. Colonial rebels in Boston did it to the King's tax agents. Further protestations against domestic tyranny grew to outright insurrection, which was the spark that led to the birth of our nation.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
What the morally bankrupt and corrupt politicians of today need is a good ole' fashioned tarring & feathering...

...Further protestations against domestic tyranny grew to outright insurrection, which was the spark that led to the birth of our nation.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

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And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

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I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
[Of the 535 in Congress , probably 530 of them need to be sent a message in the strongest of terms...

And whoever drafted that DHS document referencing emerging 'right-wing extremism' should be among the first in line , right after their 'superiors'..

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Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

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We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

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[Of the 535 in Congress , probably 530 of them need to be sent a message in the strongest of terms...

And whoever drafted that DHS document referencing emerging 'right-wing extremism' should be among the first in line , right after their 'superiors'..

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What message would that be? Is Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi going to listen to your message? Best solution is to slip Bill Ayers a C note, and let him blow up the Capitol Bldg. That would send a message the Liberals would just love....their very own chickens come home to roost.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

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I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

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Great post! You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful of Bush victim though. Bush did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. He cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Bush related. It consumes his katra. We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

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You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner.

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
It's very strange to me how I'll have a discussion of a subject & then immediately hear it again from another direction. A main focus of talk amongst Tea Partiers (100's of strangers talking amongst themselves after the event ended) was how EMOTION always clouds REASON. Politically, the extension of that subject has been how angry, seething, bush-hating people cannot let go of the past. Some cannot even come to terms with the fact that everything is different. Totally and radically different. So intense is the anger that there is no true focus to the emotion anymore. It blasts out in all directions in the form of empty divisive retoric. These things have happened before with Nixon, though few of us were alive then to know it. I wasn't.

The important thing for us yesterday was the awareness of going forward, and to stop thinking about what's past. These events are being painted by the press as being "radical right-wing" but if that was true why were there so many "Bush was Terrible" catcalls at mine? If it was right-wing why do I have pictures of proudly desplayed Dem signs? Please listen to Thomas Payne in the youtube vid. He is not partisian. Not at all. And the issues he raise cut right down the center of the polarized retroic.

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And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

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I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

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Great post! You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful of Bush victim though. Bush did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. He cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Bush related. It consumes his katra. We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

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You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. Jongsie cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Obama related.


Damn, Jongs... I thought you were going to take the gloves off and REALLY let us have it from now on. Apparently, gloves on or gloves off, you're still the same pathetic lightweight you've always shown yourself to be.

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And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

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I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

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Great post! You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful of Bush victim though. Bush did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. He cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Bush related. It consumes his katra. We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

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You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. Jongsie cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Obama related.


Damn, Jongs... I thought you were going to take the gloves off and REALLY let us have it from now on. Apparently, gloves on or gloves off, you're still the same pathetic lightweight you've always shown yourself to be.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
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You can only plagorize my posts, then have the balls to call me lightweight? You are fucking delusional. And by the way, I've already placed a call to Bill Ayer's office. So far the gutless puke hasn't called back. That's typical of your heroes.

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I think all that is very noble. I also think it's very naive.

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I think all that is very noble. I also think it's very naive.

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And your point is not lost on me. Yes it can be percieved as naive. True. But I will say this..the same could have been said to the patriots of the 1770's prior to the war. At that time a growing minority were disgruntled, fighting as they did against the Stamp Act of 1765, the Townshend acts of 1767, the Tea Act of 1773, or the Intolerable acts of 1774. To resist the supreme power of the combined might of the British Empire by a meer few was indeed regarded as naive (or more often foolish). But when the frustration grew...and grew....and grew...what was once naive became menacing.

One reason I love Firefly so much are the ideals of the Independents. They bled and died for planetary sovergnity. Who can protect us from Scavengers, or harsh conditions? From Slavers or Reavers? The Alliance? NO! We must stand on our own legs! We have the right to self govern. That fiction created by Joss Whedon resonates as loudly in my ears as the truth of the American Revolution. Those were the people who proclaimed 'Give Me Liberty or Death', and meant it.

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That's very well written BSCM. You have moved me, and I'm going to re-watch the John Adams series this weekend because of it. I wish you success in your goals.

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What I saw yesterday gave me hope. Real True Tangible Hope.

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What I saw was a bunch of people "mad as hell" about all kinds of stuff which had its genesis in the BUSH administration. Where were they four years ago???

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For what?

What I saw was a bunch of people "mad as hell" about all kinds of stuff which had its genesis in the BUSH administration. Where were they four years ago???



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What I saw was a bunch of people "mad as hell" about all kinds of stuff which had its genesis in the BUSH administration. Where were they four years ago???

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What message would that be? Is Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi going to listen to your message? Best solution is to slip Bill Ayers a C note, and let him blow up the Capitol Bldg. That would send a message the Liberals would just love....their very own chickens come home to roost.

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That's not a quote I'd be particularly proud to display, Blue. It implies the opposite - that for a society to LIVE, it must be INTOLERANT. The Third Reich tried that; it didn't work out too well for them.

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You should be thankful that these folks didn't rush the White House with guns drawn.

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I've mentioned this before on here, I'm making a 2 minute 30 second Firefly Fan film short based around the subject of the values of the Independents and their failed struggle for Liberty. I hope to be done with it by November 2009.

I'm trying to combine my libertarian values system with Firefly lore to squeeze out something that might resonate, and appeal to Joss Whedon to tell the tale of the Unification War.

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You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner.

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Grr Arg.
This is what I'm talking about. Stop being polarized. Stop thinking about these subjects as if it's all binary code. Red State/Blue State. Bush hater/Obama Hater. Fox News/MSNBC.

What I saw yesterday gave me hope. Real True Tangible Hope.

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Jongsstraw, do you need to be reminded that you sound like a right-wing nutcase advocating assassination and sedition? That this places in the very same category as those who you CLAIM to despise as "un -American"? That your hypocrisy seems pretty typical of the right-wing?

If you EVER call anyone out on their lack of patriotism again, I'll hound you into the next life!

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Jongsstraw, do you need to be reminded that you sound like a right-wing nutcase advocating assassination and sedition? That this places in the very same category as those who you CLAIM to despise as "un -American"? That your hypocrisy seems pretty typical of the right-wing?

If you EVER call anyone out on their lack of patriotism again, I'll hound you into the next life!

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You really are one truly delusional ass. Hey, Bill Ayers blows up buildings...that's what he does, and what he advocates. He's close to all your Obama twats in power now who are hell-bent to fuck up the country for generations. I didn't create that Obama/Ayers situation, so why not just go slither off to wherever little pathetic pointy-fingered rat-fucks like you & Kwiikfucko go hide in between your self-rightous and laughable postings.

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Jongsstraw, I'm truly honored that you place me in the same category as Kwicko, altho I think you're mistaken: He's smarter than me and waaaaay smarter than you. Only you're too stupid to realize it!

BTW- it doesn't matter if you hide behind Ayers. If I were to say that I hope the right wing gun-nuts go off and obliterate all Republican Congressmen, pretty much the same stuff. Trying to wash your hand like Pontius Pilate doesn't make you look any better, it just makes you look like a weasel.

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Jongsstraw, I'm truly honored that you place me in the same category as Kwicko, altho I think you're mistaken: He's smarter than me and waaaaay smarter than you. Only you're too stupid to realize it!

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Homosexual CNN CIA agent Anderson Cooper Vanderbilt was joking with Bohemian Grove nudist David Gergen last night, that families at the Tea Parties were "teabagging". That's a homosexual term for dangling your dangly bits in the mouth of a fag.

Anderson "Cooper's" mommy is Gloria Vanderbilt. He's heir to at least $3-billion.

That's what the elite think of YOU.

CNN, Fox, etc never mention what the real Tea protests are about, that the "Federal" Reserve Bank is private not govt and should be nationalized, and that the income tax was never ratified by the states and is unconstitutional.

Even the White House was shut down in a state of emergency by terrorist attack yesterday, after somebody threw a tea bag on the lawn.
www.infowars.com/white-house-locked-down-after-tea-bags-thrown/

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I expect no less coming from a worm like you. People who think and boast that they're smarter than others are all fucking delusional. And your previous post clearly indicts you as nothing but a troll clown.

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Well I already knew you were a hopeless dumbass, but your high praise of the demented and permanently Bush-scarred victim Kwiklip is truly a new low for even you. All that wise-ass can post is other people's words edited with his own. That's real intelligent for sure. I see how you could be impressed with that elementary school type of prank.

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