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The C.I.A. officers used waterboarding at least 83 times in August 2002 against Abu Zubaydah, according to a 2005 Justice Department legal memorandum. Abu Zubaydah has been described as a Qaeda operative.

A former C.I.A. officer, John Kiriakou, told ABC News and other news media organizations in 2007 that Abu Zubaydah had undergone waterboarding for only 35 seconds before agreeing to tell everything he knew.

The 2005 memo also says that the C.I.A. used waterboarding 183 times in March 2003 against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described planner of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html

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"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.”
—Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
—Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006

www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html



"The FBI added Adam Gadahn to the Most Wanted Terrorist list and the U.S. State Department is offering a reward up to $1 million for his arrest. A 28-year-old California man has been indicted on federal charges of treason and providing material support to a terrorist group for making a series of propaganda videotapes for al Qaeda, including one in which he praised the hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks. 'Adam Gadahn represents a new breed of home-grown extremist, who has chosen to betray the country of his birth,' FBI Executive Assistant Director Willie Hulon said during a press conference Wednesday in Washington, D.C."
-FBI Most Wanted
www.fbi.gov/page2/oct2006/gadahn101106.htm

"In Sept of last year, Adam Gadahn [aka Adam Perlman], the son of Jewish parents, the son of Jewish grandparents [who are on the board of directors of Jewish ADL] in Southern California, who himself converted to Islam, went on to become Osama Bin Laden's spokesman."
-Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-CA), Jewish chairman, Homeland Security Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment, CSPAN, Use of the Internet by Terrorists: Using the Web as a Weapon for 9/11 Truth, November 6, 2007
www.piratenews.org/flight93.html

Jew Rep Harman Caught on NSA Tape Agreeing to Lobby for Israel Spies = TREASON
www.republicbroadcasting.org/?p=1364

"The FBI has issued a BOLO on suspected terrorists driving a white delivery van from New York City to the Mexican border. The suspects are using Israeli passports. They are armed and dangerous."
-Knox County TN Emergency 911 Dispatch, Sept 11, 2001, 11am EST
www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

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It's stories like this that make me wanna beat the crap out of authoritarian lapdogs for their blind allegiance to bureaucracy.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Rouge prosecutors eventually get exposed, like the Durham DA during the Duke Lacrosse case. His life is go se now. Do they all get caught? No, but many of us believe there will always be a final day of judgement for our actions. There is opportunism, ineptness, and outright evil in all walks of life. Knowing this should make all us tread more cautiously in what we do.

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Rouge prosecutors eventually get exposed, like the Durham DA during the Duke Lacrosse case. His life is go se now. Do they all get caught? No, ....

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Rouge prosecutors eventually get exposed, like the Durham DA during the Duke Lacrosse case. His life is go se now. Do they all get caught? No, but many of us believe there will always be a final day of judgement for our actions. There is opportunism, ineptness, and outright evil in all walks of life. Knowing this should make all us tread more cautiously in what we do.

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That's nice and all to think that there will be a final judgment for evil doers, but what do we do now? Today. I want their influence stopped before they hurt more people. Our communities need to take these accusations seriously and deal with the perverts of justice. If we can't jail them, then at least remove them from the positions of power.

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And then I have a question: If I ever get a band together, may we have your permission to call ourselves The Perverts of Justice?

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And then I have a question: If I ever get a band together, may we have your permission to call ourselves The Perverts of Justice?

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The saying, "What goes around, comes around," is sorta comforting in an abstract sense, but personally I've found that it happens on a timescale that I find less than satisfying.

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That's nice and all to think that there will be a final judgment for evil doers, but what do we do now? Today. I want their influence stopped before they hurt more people. Our communities need to take these accusations seriously and deal with the perverts of justice. If we can't jail them, then at least remove them from the positions of power.

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Rouge prosecutors eventually get exposed, like the Durham DA during the Duke Lacrosse case. His life is go se now. Do they all get caught? No, ....

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