Hey. If somebody made a good ... by rue

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... beer, but added vitamins and minerals and called it a health-friendly beer - do you think people would buy it over other beers ?

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I think something like that would at least be niche-marketable. Not sure about broad appeal - like Joe Sixpack might just keep right on buying joe six-packs. Ya know the kind of people that other kinds of people like to refer to as the "intellectual elite?" I bet they'd buy it. And practicing alcoholics, 'cause vitamins and minerals (or even the promise thereof) of all kinds do much to promote the rationalization and justification centers of the brain (voice of experience, not casting aspersions).

W W A-B D ?
What would Anheuser-Busch do?

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hey.... that rationalizng part... very insightful!

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:33 AM

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The thing is - I have just the right approach to get people to want it (and also the right price).

Shot of beer being poured into beer-glass (not mug - a mug's too thick for the visuals to work) with light shining through the glass and the bubbles sparking as they rise through the beer - v/o - XXXX beer. Brewed with pure spring water - made with all the goodness nature intended - the clean good taste of nature - shining through. A taste that refreshing - satisfying - delicious - the way it was meant to be

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:54 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Put in some of the goodies they use in Red Bull, and I'm in.

Heck, you can pretty much live off Guinness Stout and a few vitamin supplements, so why not go ahead and add the vitamins. A complete, balanced breakfast in every bottle!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:18 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

If it tastes good and is reasonably priced, heck yeah.

Otherwise it becomes a specialized beer I only order at the pub a few times a year. I'm a Guinness girl, but I appreciate a nice lager every now and then.

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Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
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Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:47 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by rue:
... beer, but added vitamins and minerals and called it a health-friendly beer - do you think people would buy it over other beers ?

If its good beer...who cares what's in it?

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:48 AM

KIRKULES

The others are right, taste is everything for those who drink specialty beers. Normally I'm a big believer in the German beer purity law of 1516, but I might make an exception for vitamins and minerals.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 12:51 PM

Just please don't let it taste like Vegemite!

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 12:53 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Yeh, you've tried that, mate ?

So have I --- As they say, once, a philosopher ...

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 12:58 PM

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Yeh, you've tried that, mate ?

So have I --- As they say, once, a philosopher ...

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Yup, once. I puked.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:01 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"Buying bread from a man in brussels
He was six foot four and full of muscles
I said, do you speak-a my language?
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said,

I come from a land down under
Where beer does flow and men chunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:08 PM

It gets you drunk AND, is good for you....that make sence?

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:12 PM

It needs a name, I think it should be called; "ROCKY" Because of the minerals, get it?

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:18 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Yeah ... name ...

Serenity Beer ? Naahh ... Somehow, BrownCoat Beer and Mal Beer just don't sound too appetizing ...

Any ideas ?

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:46 PM

THATWEIRDGIRL

It'd be easier with some more info about the beer. Is it hoppy? Wheaty? Crisp or fruity? Bottled in a particular area or by a special group? Is the goal to keep it within the Serniverse?

Fit Kaylee Lager
Simon Says Ale
Valene Brew
....

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:51 PM

"Summer Lager" That's the one, all of you can stop now.

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:56 PM

KIRKULES

My favorite beer is named after a person (Samuel Adams). I think an appropriate name would be "Linus Pauling Ale".

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 3:19 PM

FREMDFIRMA

"Browncoat Fortified" - play up heavy on the "Fortified" portion with all kinds of 'manly' imagery stolen from truck commericals.

"Have you got what it takes to be an independent?"

Might also take a few pages from my personal beverage of choice, which has been so since a buddy sent me three CASES in return for saving his ass in a majorly memorable way...

Arrogant Bastard Ale: Are you worthy ?
http://www.arrogantbastard.com/

http://www.arrogantbastard.com/world/armedforces/harrier/index.html
Too funny.

http://www.arrogantbastard.com/world/action/jitsu/index.html
And yes, that really is Royce Gracie, no shit.

-F

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 3:30 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

I go two ways when it comes to brew -

medium body, bright, crisp, slightly bitter, served cold for a hot day

thick body, dark, chewy, aromatic, served cool for the rest of the time

Least favorite - Fosters - who put the sugar in there ?

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:42 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

stay up and get drunk all over again

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:11 PM

AG05

If, IF it was a good beer, I personally would have no issues with buying it and getting wasted on it. Please note that getting wasted is the purpose of beer. Whether you're having a quiet pint of six on the local pub or doing a naked keg stand at a superbowl party, shitfacedness(c) is the goal. If you beer can do that, I don't care about the rest. If you want to market it to mulleted redneck hillbillies, go ahead. Likewise, if your target is the lycra-wearing, granola-crunching, Austinite bicyclist arsehole, fine by me. If the alcohol content is high enough, I'm game.

9P.S. any spelling, grammar, or other errors in this post are brought to you by Stella Artois, providing drunkedness since 1366ish. Gotta love the Wifebeater.)

Rue, I must say that despite our severe disagreement on the issue of guns, I recognize this as a damn good idea. Make it So!

Mercy is the mark of a great man.
Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 5:33 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Summer Lager is a good idea, but I fear it will get lost in the seasonal names of established lines.

I've never thought getting wasted the purpose of beer. Beer is a refreshing break from the day. It can slow down the evening and let you relax a bit. Watch a movie or catch up with some friends over a couple of beers.

I don't think I'll ever understand the need to be drunk. It's a horrible feeling both during and after. Why bother.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 6:44 AM

Rue, if you make it dark like a Guiness, you can always call it "Into The Black"...

As for being drunk, I'd rather carry a good three-beer buzz myself. Now THAT feels good. The best pool or darts I've ever played came in that 3-beer-buzz zone, where you're relaxed and not tense, yet still in control of your facilities...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 6:57 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

Need to make this a beer of the month thing maybe

Summer Lager = June

Baccarin Honey Ale = July

Saffron Stout = August

Simon Tam Pale Ale = September

Book Brew = October

Cobbs Light = November

Washburnes Cream Ale = December

Badgers Sad Hill Amber = January

Kaylees inter engine pilsner = February

Niskas old fashion Bitter = April

Zoe Bock = March

Captains Brown Ale = May

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Friday, May 8, 2009 6:57 AM

CHRISISALL

Not possible. One: the alcohol would fry some of the vitamins. Two: the FDA would not allow it.

Just take a couple multivitamins after you pass out & you'll be fine.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, May 8, 2009 7:08 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Man, what a buzz kill.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 7:16 AM

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Not possible. One: the alcohol would fry some of the vitamins. Two: the FDA would not allow it.

Just take a couple multivitamins after you pass out & you'll be fine.

"Honey - where did this big stinky pile of reality in the back yard come from?"

That's okay, Chris - we were all done with our mellows anyway...

W W C3PO D ?
What would C3PO do?

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Friday, May 8, 2009 7:31 AM

"Jayne Cobb's Beer Grenade"

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Friday, May 8, 2009 7:48 AM

Ooh, ooh - "Mudder's Mult*"

*"Mult" here being short for multi-vitamin...

W W dV D ?
What would da Vinci do?

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Friday, May 8, 2009 7:59 AM

CHRISISALL

Okay, here it is, you alkeez:
http://www.fermentarium.com/content/view/245/56/

The real stuff.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, May 8, 2009 11:03 AM

FREMDFIRMA

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I don't think I'll ever understand the need to be drunk. It's a horrible feeling both during and after. Why bother.

It makes the pain go away, and I don't mean that on just a physical level - of course, it's still there, and waiting, which is what drives folks down the escapism death spiral into alcoholism and self-destruction.

You don't have that kinda pain, or if you do, have other ways of dealing with it, but some folk either lack coping mechanisms, or their pain is so strong it drowns out everything else and begins to consume who they are, till that's ALL they are.

I do understand it, and being very much aware of the dangers of that siren call, happen to stringently sparing with that kind of escapism, because it's all too easy for it to eat you alive, you let it.

Honestly, better that you don't understand it, girl - I sincerely hope you never do, on that level.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, May 8, 2009 11:38 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

If it were possible, there are people who would probably buy it.
I still wouldn't. I hate beer. I hate all alcohol, it makes me feel sick (and I'm not talking about large quantities that make most people feel sick, I'm talking about the smell or slightest taste of it making me want to hack or cough or puke it all out of me, including most commercial colognes that have an alcohol base) I kill the pain/lift my mood with large quantities of chocolate and caffeine. It doesn't always work, but I do okay.
Vitamin-enriched chocolate, that's what we need.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 11:58 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"It makes the pain go away ..."

It never did that for me. It just made it so I didn't care as much.

I started down the pain path decades ago - and didn't realize how bad it had gotten till I found myself drinking a bottle of wine before every time I did yard work. It was the only way I could face it.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 12:00 PM

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If it were possible, there are people who would probably buy it.
I still wouldn't. I hate beer. I hate all alcohol, it makes me feel sick (and I'm not talking about large quantities that make most people feel sick, I'm talking about the smell or slightest taste of it making me want to hack or cough or puke it all out of me, including most commercial colognes that have an alcohol base) I kill the pain/lift my mood with large quantities of chocolate and caffeine. It doesn't always work, but I do okay.
Vitamin-enriched chocolate, that's what we need.

Wow - sounds like your body sort of produces its own Antabuse.
( http://alcoholism.about.com/od/meds/a/antabuse.htm)

W W R D ?
What would Rorschach do?

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Friday, May 8, 2009 12:06 PM

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PR

You have Oriental genetics !

About half of Orientals have mostly inactive aldehyde dehydrogenase which breaks down acetaldehyde (from ethanol) in the liver. This results in a build-up of acetaldehyde in the blood, and results in your symptoms. I suspect you have become conditioned in the Pavlovian sense to associate alcohol with feeling really bad. And that is why even the smell now makes you sick.

That is also the mechanism of action behind antabuse, which inhibits aldehyde dehydrogenase.

"Disulfiram (Antabuse) plus even small amounts of alcohol produces flushing, throbbing in head and neck, throbbing headache, respiratory difficulty, nausea, copious vomiting, sweating, thirst, chest pain, palpitation, dyspnea, hyperventilation, tachycardia, hypotension, syncope, marked uneasiness, weakness, vertigo, blurred vision, and confusion."

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Friday, May 8, 2009 12:16 PM

KIRKULES

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I suspect you have become conditioned in the Pavlovian sense to associate alcohol with feeling really bad. And that is why even the smell now makes you sick.

I drank to much Jack Daniels one time, and for many years after that just the smell would make me retch.

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Friday, May 8, 2009 12:53 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by rue:
I suspect you have become conditioned in the Pavlovian sense to associate alcohol with feeling really bad. And that is why even the smell now makes you sick.

Sound enough theory, but I've always been that way. I've never been drunk, never even been buzzed, never stomached more than a sip of the stuff, any stuff, and perfume/cologne has given me headaches since earliest memory, and in larger quantities render me literally breathless. I have high sensitivity to many things. Cigarette smoke can make my eyes stream. The first time I took a Benadryl I passed out for three hours. I get it from my mom, but I have it worse than her, in some ways. She could drink when she was younger, but has gradually gotten to the point where the cheap stuff gives her raging headaches after a glass or two, and the nicer stuff she can tolerate only in low quantities. She almost died when put under anesthesia, too, a problem I'm glad I didn't seem to inherit (although I told them to maybe take it easy on me, and they did)
I don't know why it is, but I see very little point in trying to fight it. *shrug*

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Friday, May 8, 2009 4:59 PM

FREMDFIRMA

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I drank to much Jack Daniels one time, and for many years after that just the smell would make me retch.

*raises hand*

Aftershock, cinnamon aftershock, duuude, that was NOT fun!

I do the chocolate and caffiene thing nowaways, mostly, with a touch up of whiskey when my knees are real bad.. s'funny, these days it don't take very bloody much whiskey to down ME facefirst on the keyboard no more, imma ok with that, saves me a couple of bucks.

-F

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Friday, May 8, 2009 11:51 PM

SIMONWHO

An overheard conversation at my local Kwik-E-Mart:

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Got any of that beer that has vitamins floating in it? You know, Vitibrau?

Such a beer does not exist, sir. I think you must have dreamed it.

Oh. Well, then just give me a six-pack and a couple of bags of multi-vitamins.

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 7:45 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

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As for being drunk, I'd rather carry a good three-beer buzz myself. Now THAT feels good. The best pool or darts I've ever played came in that 3-beer-buzz zone, where you're relaxed and not tense, yet still in control of your facilities...

Mike

2ND !

Except , you mean faculties, right ?

The 'facilities' are also known as the 'used-beer' department , or the 'necessary room'...

If you're not in control of your facilities , best organize a squad and re-take them...A situation like that is a real pisser...

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

As for being drunk, I'd rather carry a good three-beer buzz myself. Now THAT feels good. The best pool or darts I've ever played came in that 3-beer-buzz zone, where you're relaxed and not tense, yet still in control of your facilities...

Mike

2ND !

Except , you mean faculties, right ?

The 'facilities' are also known as the 'used-beer' department , or the 'necessary room'...

If you're not in control of your facilities , best organize a squad and re-take them...A situation like that is a real pisser...

Oh, my... YES! You are correct, sir.

It usually takes much more than three beers before I lose control of my facilities...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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