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Originally posted by rue:
WE will have to apply pressure to get him to move in the direction we want.

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Originally posted by rue:
To expound on my earlier post - my impression all along was that Obama was an expert at understanding the levers of a system and then using them. As such, he is inclined to see 'the system' (any system, whether Chicago politics, the democratic party, Washington or certain big business) as a source of power. And he therefore would want to keep the system the same, and not challenge it, reform it, or dismantle it. After all, the system has always worked for him.

My only question was how deeply entrenched were his preferences. By watching the bank and WS bailouts (deeply misdirected IMO), I have come to believe his focus on and reliance on the system is deeply entrenched, possibly even a part of his character (as the one who 'makes good' under its approving eye).

Do not expect any divergent populist moves on his part.

As I mentioned a long time ago - WE will have to apply pressure to get him to move in the direction we want.

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Originally posted by rue:
As I mentioned a long time ago - WE will have to apply pressure to get him to move in the direction we want.

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And yet - he was a better choice than McCain.

A McCain presidency would have enshrined Cheney, Rove et al forever in an immoveable administration. Whatever we got over the last 8 years would have been amplified many-fold.

Obama, as deeply wedded as he is to the system, is moveable - IF enough pressure is applied.


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You folks wanted fascism. Welp, here ya go !

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Gotta spend money to make money, right?
Isn't that what the stimulus plan is all about?

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Originally posted by the F-man:
Hmm, here's a concept idea for ya.

After you take the oath of office, they snap a tamper proof collar around your neck with a pound of C-4 built into it.

Every american has a red button on the back of their drivers license, and if they think you have violated that oath, they push it.

If 66% or more of them push it, the collar explodes.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You Obama/Bush worshipers need some wake-up juice.

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:

As an independent libertarian I for one am proud to not belong to either of those disgusting parties.

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Originally posted by rue:
As I mentioned a long time ago - WE will have to apply pressure to get him to move in the direction we want.

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Hmm, here's a concept idea for ya.

After you take the oath of office, they snap a tamper proof collar around your neck with a pound of C-4 built into it.

Every american has a red button on the back of their drivers license, and if they think you have violated that oath, they push it.

If 66% or more of them push it, the collar explodes.

Hell, that one's such a decent idea I think it would be viable to apply it to congressfolk and their constituents as well - althought Mrs Conyers would prolly be annoyed at us after having to replace the carpets...

-F

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