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...and then you went ahead and posted anyway, not sure if you should, and how did that go? Not speaking for anyone else here, but if I remember correctly, I greeted you and we argued, but we actually had our discussions about real issues, and those discussions have each had points made and conceded on either side.

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But I can make the exact same claim! I've laid out several arguments based on facts

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That goes for anyone - Conservative/Republican, Liberal/Democrat, Libertarian, Christian, Atheist, etc. If anyone posts anything of merit, it should be given the thoughtful consideration and the chance for civilized discussion.

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folk like Whozit only add to the problem by stirring the pot on purpose.

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Again, Kwick, nothing I'm saying is against you, so don't take it that way. I'm trying to make generalized statements in order to get some agreement on how we should behave even if it means a vow to make a fresh start of things.

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Personally my estimation would be that Chrisisall has been pulling Rap's strings

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Take what Oppyh wrote about Obama worship, for example. Instead of jumping down his/her throat, couldn't somebody just have said "You sure you don't wanna rephrase that?"

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You were saying something about favoured posters? It appears Rap is yours. Every argument, every slanging match, EVERY SINGLE insult thrown at Rap, was in response to an attack he made on someone else.

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VICTORY!!!!!!

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Now....what are you gonna talk about?

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Now....what are you gonna talk about?

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VICTORY!!!!!!

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Just for the record, seriously, I don't want AU to leave, I just want him to take a closer look at his bias, and realize that peeps like Rush are entertainers first, and sources of real political discourse...well, last.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

I don't have a problem with people listening to Rush; I have a problem with people listening ONLY to Rush, then coming in here and regurgitating Rush's talking points word for word, and then considering themselves "informed" and swearing that they "deal only in facts".

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I favor no one on this site. I have an open mind and I respect peoples opinions. I respect Rappy's voice(which most don't agree with).

This is what makes our great nation, the ability to disagree. Something we shouldn't take lightly.


But congratulations, you people have effectively silenced the opposition. Now....what are you gonna talk about?

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I wonder if you realise that while you splutter on with your self aggrandising self-important faux and nonsense victim act, you prove your accusations are only true of yourself, in intent if not in ability.

I'm guessing not. I'm sorry your hatred of freedom of speech isn't getting much traction around here, no wait, no I'm not.

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Hatred of Freedom of Speech? OHHHKAAAAAYYY.

Whatever you say.

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Closing ranks around the most vicious and nasty people here just because they say "I'm a conservative"...

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You favour no one? I hope you didn't say that with a straight face. Especially since the rest of your posts proves otherwise.

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
I FAVOR no one. All opinions on this site are equally important/worthless to me. That meaning they have absolutely no weight in the real world or how I live my life. If you take these little posts so seriously, then I feel bad for you.

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You say you're a conservative?

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Monsters like them and their army of ditto-headed followers should be tried for treason, or better yet they should all be dragged from their homes and shot down in the streets, but not before they are all given a taste of the whip.

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No, the most vicious and nasty people, people who attack people personally first for no reason.

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No, the most vicious and nasty people, people who attack people personally first for no reason.

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But that describes you so accurately. (Nothing personal, BTW, but honest self-examination would force you to agree.) If such people always say they're conservatives, then either you must say you're a conservative, or your proposition is invalid.

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Or am I just being overly sensitive to this stuff? LOL

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Okay . . . so this is deteriorating fast . . . again.

Is there some sort of history with Oppyh that I'm not aware of? Can we get back on topic on how we can all be rational and civilized when having discussions? Without the kitty ping-pong?

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I will not tolerate friendly disagreement in there here parts.

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Shut your pie hole cock nose.

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Shut your pie hole cock nose.

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Ah-nal nathrack
Othvass bethood,
Dothnee-ahl dien vay!

You are now my sockpuppet!!!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Ah-nal nathrack
Othvass bethood,
Dothnee-ahl dien vay!

You are now my sockpuppet!!!

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And Chris comes in with the obscure movie quote of the day! Congrats! Now we just need to find you a chrome skull cap.

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And Chris comes in with the obscure movie quote of the day! Congrats! Now we just need to find you a chrome skull cap.

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Done!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.

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Ya see how much we have in common if it weren't for this political mumbo-jumbo? I use that quote quite often and all I get is raised eyebrows and a few unkind words in regard to my character.

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Mal: You think she'll hold together?
Zoë: She's torn up plenty, but she'll fly true.
Mal: Could be bumpy.
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It's the same thing without all the weapons and goose-stepping.

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Nothing personal, but if you were honest with yourself you'd have to agree that your compulsive lying doesn't prove anything about anyone but yourself.

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It's the same thing without all the weapons and goose-stepping.

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I guess you missed this then, much as I hate Alex Jones, compare the fluffy little spin versus the facts of the matter.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52282
http://www.infowars.com/us-troops-in-homeland-%E2%80%9Ccrowd-control%E
2%80%9D-patrols-from-october-1st/

Active duty troops, here, on american soil, with pacifying US as their mission.

Article 3 - Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

No two ways about it, that's Treason, clear and simple, you saw it, I saw it, that's two witnesses right there.

As for the goosestepping, apparently you didn't get a close look at police conduct during the WTO incident in seattle.
http://www.counterpunch.org/seattlediary.html
When the rally broke up, hundreds of Steelworkers joined with other protesters in an impromptu march down 1st Avenue. As the crowd reached Pike Place Market, they found paramilitary riot squads waiting for them and were rocked with volleys of military-strength CS gas, flash bombs, and larger rubber bullets, about a half-inch in diameter. The carnage was indiscriminate. Holiday shoppers and Metro buses were gassed. In an effort to jack up the intimidation, the cop squads were marching in almost goose-stepping fashion, smacking their riot clubs against their shin-guards to create a sinister sound with echoes back to Munich. This was the most violent of the street battles that I witnessed, involving hundreds of police and more than 20 tear gas attacks.

Oh, and lets not, better, lets NEVER, EVER forget what happened to the FLDS, despite the fact that they're a little wacko, having their kids dragged off and brutalised by the state because they "might, someday" raise them to be something other than obedient consumers.

You'll also note that the whole issue has all but disappeared, leaving over four HUNDRED severely traumatised children with not a single whit of post trauma counselling, therapy or anything of the kind, despite quite a few of them showing obvious signs of PTSD, which is damn heartbreaking to see a child suffering from.

Hell, some of you watched it go down in a rather epic confrontation on this very board, right up to the State's sudden capitulation just before the DNA results would have had to been released publicly - something which tells you all you need to know about that.

I got into that, at the end, personally and at point blank range, seeing those traumatised kids cling to someone they SHOULD have been afraid of cause they feared the State and it's agents MORE, will forever and ever leave a foul taste in my mouth.

You can revisit that here, if you've the nerve.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=33401

-Frem

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these so-called new republicans and their Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Anne Coulter hero worship in my opinion will ruin this country with their fascism, their racism, their separatist behavior, and their blame-everyone-in-the-country-for-all-the- problems-who-are-not-white, nor male, nor rich, or Republican.

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these so-called new republicans and their Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Anne Coulter hero worship in my opinion will ruin this country with their fascism, their racism, their separatist behavior, and their blame-everyone-in-the-country-for-all-the- problems-who-are-not-white, nor male, nor rich, or Republican.

Monsters like them and their army of ditto-headed followers should be tried for treason, or better yet they should all be dragged from their homes and shot down in the streets, but not before they are all given a taste of the whip.

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Hey Libbies, HEY peaceful and tolerant and lawful and evolved Liberals & any other sane people? Time to chime in here!

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You have an opportunity to draw a line here. Knowing where you stand on those thoughts will help me going forward here. I'll anxioulsy await all your replies to Browncoat River.

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When has ANY Neo-con repub whatever proposed anything as fucking demented as that filth above?

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When has ANY Neo-con repub whatever proposed anything as fucking demented as that filth above?

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"We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out and shoot them. Really. You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them. You have a problem with that? Deal with it. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead. I'll pay for the bullets. How about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of a firing range. Tie him to a post, don't blindfold him, let it rip and have some fun with Mark Dice."

Michael Reagan on a broadcast radio show, June 16, 2008

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I hope you don't expect me or anyone else to believe your "I don't pick sides" self aggrandising nonsense, especially after you've spent every post so far crying about the "unfair and uncalled for" treatment of poor poor shrinking violent AURaptor.

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