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Why should Letterman be held to a different standard than McCain?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Why should Letterman be held to a different standard than McCain?

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I guess you haven't heard, never answer a question with a question. It makes you look like you don't have an answer.

But in keeping with your line of reasoning, why should Imus be held to a different standard than Letterman?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ummm... Because YOU don't have an answer?

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Ummm... Because YOU don't have an answer?

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No... YOU! Nah nah nah nah nah.

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Oh, horrors! She's ghastly.




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LOL!! Ghastly?

Come on, she's not as bad as all that.

Next your going to tell me Shelly Duvall, and Tori Spelling are unattractive.

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Apparently you don't get sarcasm.

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Where's the love?

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Originally posted by Hero:
The Felony Murder statute applies. Killing someone, even accidently, while committing or attempting to commit another felony is still Agg Murder in Ohio.

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Oh, how nice for you that bulls**t flies in your state; remind me never to jaywalk while resisting a mugging there, I wouldn't want serve time for securing my wallet & punching a perp in the throat in the crosswalk.

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“All right, here – I’ve been thinking about this situation with Governor Palin and her family now for about a week – it was a week ago tonight, and maybe you know about it, maybe you don’t know about it. But there was a joke that I told, and I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There’s no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter, and before the show, I checked to make sure in fact that she is of legal age, 18. Yeah. But the joke really, in and of itself, can’t be defended. The next day, people are outraged. They’re angry at me because they said, ‘How could you make a lousy joke like that about the 14-year-old girl who was at the ball game?’ And I had, honestly, no idea that the 14-year-old girl, I had no idea that anybody was at the ball game except the governor and I was told at the time she was there with Rudy Giuliani … and I really should have made the joke about Rudy …” (audience applauds) “But I didn’t, and now people are getting angry and they’re saying, ‘Well, how can you say something like that about a 14-year-old girl, and does that make you feel good to make those horrible jokes about a kid who’s completely innocent, minding her own business,’ and, turns out, she was at the ball game. I had no idea she was there. So she’s now at the ball game, and people think that I made the joke about her. And, but still, I’m wondering, ‘Well, what can I do to help people understand that I would never make a joke like this?’ I’ve never made jokes like this as long as we’ve been on the air, 30 long years, and you can’t really be doing jokes like that. And I understand, of course, why people are upset. I would be upset myself.

“And then I was watching the Jim Lehrer ‘Newshour’ – this commentator, the columnist Mark Shields, was talking about how I had made this indefensible joke about the 14-year-old girl, and I thought, ‘Oh, boy, now I’m beginning to understand what the problem is here. It’s the perception rather than the intent.’ It doesn’t make any difference what my intent was, it’s the perception. And, as they say about jokes, if you have to explain the joke, it’s not a very good joke. And I’m certainly – ” (audience applause) “– thank you. Well, my responsibility – I take full blame for that. I told a bad joke. I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception. And since it was a joke I told, I feel that I need to do the right thing here and apologize for having told that joke. It’s not your fault that it was misunderstood, it’s my fault. That it was misunderstood.” (audience applauds) “Thank you. So I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I’m sorry about it and I’ll try to do better in the future. Thank you very much.”

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Where's Todd Palin been? They're HIS daughters, aren't they? What kind of man would stay silent in this situation?

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Where's Todd Palin been? They're HIS daughters, aren't they? What kind of man would stay silent in this situation?

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He didn't he was and has been right out there making statements about this issue. His wife is the national figure, her statements get the bulk of the press coverage.

I suspect he considered going down to Dave's studio and "talking" to Letterman. Personally I think a fist to the nose could have handled this much quicker.

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Since Letterman says the joke was aimed at Bristol, we kind of have to take him at his word as far as his INTENT goes. There's some supporting evidence for this: Bristol DOES have a history of being "knocked up". So Letterman is joking about an EIGHTEEN-YEAR-OLD getting knocked up, not a fourteen-year-old as the right keeps claiming.

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How is Bristol going to get knocked up by A-Rod when she wasn't even at the game? Letterman made the joke about the Palin's attending the game. Not sure why you are so determined to throw up a smoke screen. You must be a real big Letterman fan.

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I suspect he considered going down to Dave's studio and "talking" to Letterman. Personally I think a fist to the nose could have handled this much quicker.

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Chuck & Di of the Klondike.

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Yeah, he pretty much took Conan's ratings away. Not that I pay any attention to that... *innocent*

That's something else I don't understand. Democrat or Republican, if you say you love your country, and by extension your flag as a SYMBOL of your country...

Why then would you wrap yourself up in it, cut it up into clothing, or otherwise wear it?

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

1. the joke was about the daughter at the game
2. the daughter at the game was the 14 year old.

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3. the joke is not made "better" because it is about an 18 year [old] teenager.

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I've always thought that sort of thing was kind of disrespectful to the flag.

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I asked that because Ginobiffaroni posted a picture where someone had photoshopped Sarah Palin's head onto a some woman toting a gun and wearing a stars and stripes bikini.

But even though that wasn't really Sarah Palin, why would the woman be wearing a bikini like that? I've always thought that sort of thing was kind of disrespectful to the flag. I'm fine with people making a message with a country's flag, and I even think people have the right to burn a flag in protest. But symbolic protest is not the purpose of a stars and stripes bikini, I think, even though I consider it a desecration of a flag in the same manner as burning a flag. I suppose it just confuses me more than it really bothers me.

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But symbolic protest is not the purpose of a stars and stripes bikini, I think...

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I mean they try to come into our homes to tell us how to live, is it not fair to examine and even be critical of the decisions and choices that person made ?

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I mean they try to come into our homes to tell us how to live, is it not fair to examine and even be critical of the decisions and choices that person made ?

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Do as I say, not as I do. That's the Palin motto.
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I mean they try to come into our homes to tell us how to live, is it not fair to examine and even be critical of the decisions and choices that person made ?

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Do as I say, not as I do. That's the Palin motto.
Or would be, if she started havin' a motto.


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In the right context (if Bristol was the one at the game), I'd say it was funny. But then, I invariably find slamming hypocrisy humourous.

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Funny thing is, I don't recall her telling anyone how to live. It's just the assumption heaped upon her by lose on the left that any one with a conservative or religious background will automatically force their value system on everyone else. It just ain't so.

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"The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she wrote

Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.

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And to think it's okay to bring her kids into it is just hideous.

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So Kwicko there are a lot of people in this thread who deserve a "good job" from YOU, if we are to believe anything you have to say.

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I don’t think an 18 year old kid is anymore deserving of being treated like trash then a 14 year old.

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So the question I have for you is, if it weren’t for the law scaring you off, why would you have any problem objectifying a 14 year old kid? What really is the difference in your mind, sans the law?

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Second, what does hypocrisy have to do about your decision to find anything humorous about this?

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or Obama a "terrorist" and shouting "Kill him!" at their little happy Nazi rallies?

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or Obama a "terrorist" and shouting "Kill him!" at their little happy Nazi rallies?

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To be fair, Palin did not smile or otherwise applaud those shouts.


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If I remember right, the Secret Service found no evidence that this incident (the name calling at a McCain/Palin rally that got all the attention) even occured. So your point is moot.

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In the right context (if Bristol was the one at the game), I'd say it was funny. But then, I invariably find slamming hypocrisy humourous.

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There are two things wrong with this.

First of all, why is it okay if it is the 18 year old? The law says its okay for her to have consensual sex and you decide that means its okay to objectify her and disrespect her? I might be required to obey the law, but I don’t allow it to decide my morals or what I think is right or wrong. I don’t think an 18 year old kid is anymore deserving of being treated like trash then a 14 year old. So the question I have for you is, if it weren’t for the law scaring you off, why would you have any problem objectifying a 14 year old kid? What really is the difference in your mind, sans the law?

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...does your 14-year old daughter want to be knocked-up by ARod, or even me per chance? What good sport!

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Nor did she ever apologize for the actions of her thuggish supporters

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The Palin video has someone shout "treason". Not "terrorist".

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How about this report where McCain DEFENDS Obama?

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=2194

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I mean they try to come into our homes to tell us how to live, is it not fair to examine and even be critical of the decisions and choices that person made ?

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Funny thing is, I don't recall her telling anyone how to live. It's just the assumption heaped upon her by lose on the left that any one with a conservative or religious background will automatically force their value system on everyone else. It just ain't so.

But let's face it. We all screw up from time to time. To err is human, right? I can say all sorts of things about what my beliefs are and try to instill those beliefs into my kids. But in the end it's going to be the kids that make their own decisions. I'm not saying Bristol was evil for what she did. She made a decision to go against what she was probably taught. I know I did. My parents tried to tell me to wait until I was married, but I was a horny teenager with absolutely no self-control. When the opportunity presented itself . . .

So let's not jump all over Palin and call her a hypocrite and that she deserves the scorn of the left because she's not and she really doesn't deserve it. And to think it's okay to bring her kids into it is just hideous.

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This one's for Chris and Kwick . . .

Did Obama denounce THIS?

http://snarkfood.com/mccain-calls-obama-a-decent-man-obama-supporters-
call-palin-a-cunt/

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