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Top Ten Reasons John Ensign Should Resign
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:17 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Careful there. That sounds like "the Secret Service found no evidence, so it didn't happen." I prefer that to "...found no evidence, so it must of happened." Remember Bush's 1980 trip to Iran in back of an SR-71 to broker the deal to keep the hostages until after the election? Democrats cited the complete lack of evidence as reason to investigate. H "Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Careful there. That sounds like "the Secret Service found no evidence, so it didn't happen."
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: This one's for Chris and Kwick . . . Did Obama denounce THIS? http://snarkfood.com/mccain-calls-obama-a-decent-man-obama-supporters-call-palin-a-cunt/ Yeah, well, Obama wasn't there. I remember McCain saying to his supporters who booed Obama's name that he was a decent man. That bought him many point with me. And any chick that shoots mooses (meese-?) for fun from a helicopter IS a c**t, s-o-r-r-y. The laughing Chrisisall
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: This one's for Chris and Kwick . . . Did Obama denounce THIS? http://snarkfood.com/mccain-calls-obama-a-decent-man-obama-supporters-call-palin-a-cunt/
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:36 AM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: I prefer that to "...found no evidence, so it must of happened."
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:59 AM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: he DID indeed negotiate with terrorists, and sold them TOW missiles
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: ...while Palin joked at her rallies about "someone who pals around with domestic terrorists..."
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:33 PM
RIPWASH
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: ...while Palin joked at her rallies about "someone who pals around with domestic terrorists..." Which, you have to admit, is a pretty c-word-ish thing to do, really.
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: ETA: In fairness, though, I think if those protestors wore those to an Obama rally and he saw them, he'd have them removed from the rally, not stand there smiling like McCain did when a supporter called Hillary "the bitch", or as Palin did while supporters yelled things like "treason", "terrorist", and "kill him".
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:32 PM
Quote:I'm one of those who believe that if a relative newcomer to the Republican Party, only in the Senate for 2 years, with the connections that Obama had, would have gotten skewered by the MSM and the left to the point he wouldn't have gotten past the first few primaries. Nope. Can't prove it. Just a gut feelin'.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:49 AM
CUDA77
Like woman, I am a mystery.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:54 AM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: Must I go through the Bill Ayers thing again?
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: By the way, shouldn't A-Rod be demanding an apology too? After all, he was the one who was REALLY insulted and demeaned by this whole affair.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: By the way, shouldn't A-Rod be demanding an apology too? After all, he was the one who was REALLY insulted and demeaned by this whole affair. He will, as soon as he's done crying it out. The laughing Chrisisall
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:28 AM
GINOBIFFARONI
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:41 AM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:44 AM
Quote: Hey Rip, YOU were within 2000 miles of him once, YOU must be a friend of his too, you TERRORIST!!!!
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:48 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Dooooods ... Seriously ... Ripwash has already drunk the koolaid. He's a goner. There's no hope for him now. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: Then again . . . I never announced my intentions to run for public office at he man's house
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:22 AM
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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:53 AM
HKCAVALIER
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: I'm sorry, but every time someone from the right starts an argument or a disagreement (even when done with a generous amount of snark), it seems lately the first thing you guys jump to is "You're starting to get like AURaptor!"
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:58 AM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: I was just teasin', Rue! Sheesh! Note that I made fun of myself for drinking the koolaid you accused me of drinking first. Don't lose your sense of humor on me, now. Where are my defenders? Kwick? Chris? LOL Re-read some of my posts, too, why dontcha? I was never 100% in the McCain camp. In fact, I would have rather had a choice by the time the Ohio primary came and went but it was basically all over by then. He was it. I know you guys WANT another Rappy, but it ain't gonna be me. Sorry. I hope you guys have seen that I admit my faults, admit when I seem to be wrong, etc. I'm going to try and NOT get drawn into kitty ping-pong fights and I'm certainly not going to be the first to start hurling personal insults. I'm sorry, but every time someone from the right starts an argument or a disagreement (even when done with a generous amount of snark), it seems lately the first thing you guys jump to is "You're starting to get like AURaptor!" As to your last paragraph, you'll see just in this thread that I have pointed out via video links where McCain stood up for Obama and pictures from Obama rallies where people wore simply disgusting shirts describing Palin. So whenever I try to make a serious point, at least I try to prove my point with credible links, even linking to Huffington Post from time to time. ********************************************* "It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!" "What does that mean?!?!?!"
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: Now that's just mean.... Wait . . . Who?
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by citizen: Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: I'm sorry, but every time someone from the right starts an argument or a disagreement (even when done with a generous amount of snark), it seems lately the first thing you guys jump to is "You're starting to get like AURaptor!" You're starting to sound like Baron Silas Greenback.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: So, with so many REAL things to criticize, why ever would you insist on the terr'st connection ? And other equally stooopid things ?
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:38 AM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:43 AM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: I was just teasin', Rue! Sheesh! Note that I made fun of myself for drinking the koolaid you accused me of drinking first. Don't lose your sense of humor on me, now. Where are my defenders? Kwick? Chris? LOL
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: No, the joke is on Sarah. What makes it funny? 'Cause she's a christo-fascist nutjob who's kid is having unprotected sex, thus undercutting her mom's whole way of life.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:28 AM
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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal: Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: In the right context (if Bristol was the one at the game), I'd say it was funny. But then, I invariably find slamming hypocrisy humourous. There are two things wrong with this. First of all, why is it okay if it is the 18 year old? The law says its okay for her to have consensual sex and you decide that means its okay to objectify her and disrespect her? I might be required to obey the law, but I don’t allow it to decide my morals or what I think is right or wrong. I don’t think an 18 year old kid is anymore deserving of being treated like trash then a 14 year old. So the question I have for you is, if it weren’t for the law scaring you off, why would you have any problem objectifying a 14 year old kid? What really is the difference in your mind, sans the law? Hey, Finn, I'm sure you'll join every right-winger here in condemning Jongstraw for saying things like Quote: ...does your 14-year old daughter want to be knocked-up by ARod, or even me per chance? What good sport! After all, he's advocating rape of young girls, and in your mind, even if he were talking about 18-year-olds, it would be just as disgusting, right? And clearly he's saying he likes fucking underage girls, so I'll be waiting for you and all your right-wing buddies to vilify him. Heck, you should probably call for him to be fired. WhoZit, I'm sure, will want Jongsy killed, just like he wanted Letterman dead. Surely you'll want to put politics aside and tell me "good job!" for pointing out this kind of disgusting "humor" to you so you can denounce it, yes? I'll wait. I won't hold my breath though. Mike Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day... Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Quote:Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal: Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: In the right context (if Bristol was the one at the game), I'd say it was funny. But then, I invariably find slamming hypocrisy humourous. There are two things wrong with this. First of all, why is it okay if it is the 18 year old? The law says its okay for her to have consensual sex and you decide that means its okay to objectify her and disrespect her? I might be required to obey the law, but I don’t allow it to decide my morals or what I think is right or wrong. I don’t think an 18 year old kid is anymore deserving of being treated like trash then a 14 year old. So the question I have for you is, if it weren’t for the law scaring you off, why would you have any problem objectifying a 14 year old kid? What really is the difference in your mind, sans the law?
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: In the right context (if Bristol was the one at the game), I'd say it was funny. But then, I invariably find slamming hypocrisy humourous.
Quote: ...does your 14-year old daughter want to be knocked-up by ARod, or even me per chance? What good sport!
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:38 PM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:43 PM
SERGEANTX
Quote:Originally posted by rue: RIP isn't as bad as Rap - yet. But then, Rap didn't start out being as bad as Rap.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: "no reason to start accusing me of being delusional" Why not ? You've (yet again) failed to address the MANY things you've stated that are clearly partisan. For a quick review, see below. B/c frankly, all I see are pathetic complaints against Obama and 'the left', and endless rationalizations, and weak excuses for McCain and Palin, and not ONE single criticism of them --- your BIG double standard is showing ...
Quote:Knowing the joke was in bad taste ... So, really, I don't think the apology was 100% authentic.
Quote:I think her anger is justified a little bit.
Quote:... assumption heaped upon her by lose on the left ...
Quote:But let's face it. We all screw up from time to time. (This one to excuse Bristol, but not Letterman.)
Quote:And to think it's okay to bring her kids into it is just hideous.
Quote:So your point is moot.
Quote:The Palin video has someone shout "treason". Not "terrorist".
Quote:Must I go through the Bill Ayers thing again?
Quote:With the stuff swirling around Obama that he seemingly got a pass on ... if a relative newcomer to the Republican Party, only in the Senate for 2 years, with the connections that Obama had, would have gotten skewered by the MSM and the left
Quote:I never announced my intentions to run for public office at he man's house . . . or had dinner with him
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Yeah, Chris,Isall RIP isn't as bad as Rap - yet. But then, Rap didn't start out being as bad as Rap. I'm just waving the yellow caution flag. At some point a little decision was reached in RIP's head. And he probably didn't even notice it - it was quick, and quiet. A momentary - yeah, I'm OK with that. That's how it started. And that is the path he is on now. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: Loath as I am these days to enter a discussion in the RWED (maybe we should change the name to Lord of the Fireflies), I feel the need to clarify something about Letterman and liberal cultural values. Letterman is a liberal joking with a liberal audience. Liberals don't really have a problem with sexual promiscuity--particularly between consenting folk of 18 years or older. And liberals, who are not obsessed with Palin's personal life only really know about the one daughter, Bristol. Ask 50 liberals to name another Palin daughter and 49 will make something up like, Cockatoo. So, anyway, the daughter was NEVER the subject/butt of the joke. It would be like a conservative comic making a "joke" about Palin's love of guns. That would never play with a conservative audience, now, would it? It's just not funny to them. No, the joke is on Sarah. What makes it funny? 'Cause she's a christo-fascist nutjob who's kid is having unprotected sex, thus undercutting her mom's whole way of life. And the "slutty flight attendant look" is funny for the same reason. Not because there's anything wrong with actual slutty flight attendants, but that this christo-fascist nutjob feels the need to play one on tv. That is all. I relinquish the conch. HKCavalier Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Far as choices go Obama/Biden was better than McCain/Palin.. but still not what most people were looking for.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:28 PM
OPPYH
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by OPPYH: Palin accepted Letterman's apology. Letterman's ratings are through the roof. Next time he should spout a more offensive joke, and then apologize after. His ratings should then triple what they are currently. Did he plan for all this to happen?
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: But I've also fully admitted that I can be partisan in my views depending on the subject matter.
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:00 PM
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