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' US cannot dictate '

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Monday, July 6, 2009 12:15 PM

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Israel 'has right to rein-in Iran'
Iran insists its nuclear enrichment facilities are intended for civilian use

Israel has a sovereign right to decide how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions whether the United States agrees or not, Joe Biden, the US vice-president, has said.

In an interview on ABC's "This week" programme on Sunday, Biden said Israel can determine for itself how best to deal with the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran.

"We cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do when they make a determination, if they make a determination, that they're existentially threatened," Biden said.

Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, has signalled that he agrees with President Barack Obama's end-of-the-year deadline for progress in efforts to engage Iran diplomatically to resolve a dispute over its nuclear programme.

Military action

Netanyahu, who took office in March, has said Israel cannot allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons and has not ruled out a possible military strike against Iran.

Alaeddin Broujerdi, the head of Iran's parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy, said Tehran was ready to take "real and decisive" action if Israel attacked its nuclear facilities.

"I believe our response will be real and decisive"

Alaeddin Broujerdi, head of Iran's parliamentary committee on national security
"Both the US and Israel are aware of the consequence of an erroneous decision," Broujerdi told reporters at the Iranian embassy in Tokyo.

"I believe our response will be real and decisive," Broujerdi said.

He declined to elaborate.

Israel has said a nuclear-armed Iran would be a threat to its existence, noting calls by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, that Israel should be wiped off the map.

Iran denies it is enriching uranium for military purposes, saying its nuclear development is aimed at generating electricity.

Israel bombed a site in Syria in 2007 that US intelligence officials said was a nearly completed nuclear reactor being built with North Korean help.

In 1981, Israel bombed an Iraqi nuclear reactor.

'Sovereign right'

"If the Netanyahu government decides to take a course of action different than the one being pursued now, that is their sovereign right to do that. That is not our choice," Biden said.

"But there is no pressure from any nation that's going to alter our behavior as to how to proceed."

The UN Security Council has imposed three sets of sanctions on Iran for defying its demand to suspend uranium enrichment, which could also be used to produce nuclear weapons.

The United States has joined Russia, China, France, Germany and Britain in inviting Iran to talks to resolve the nuclear dispute.

Meir Dagan, Israel's Mossad intelligence chief, said last month a world embargo had altered the course of Tehran's nuclear programme since 2003, but that Iran could have an atomic weapon by 2014 unless these steps were intensified.

Great.... If the US is going to stay out... then stay all the way out. Quit arming Israel, quit proping up their economy with your foreign aid and if they go and kick a hornets nest... let them be stung. They are their own worst friggin enemy, and without the US backing them up maybe they will shut up, or be reigned in by their own people.

Israel is as much as a threat to peace as anyone, by Bidens logic you can guess what an appropriate response will be...

If the US allows Israel to cross American controlled Iraqi airspace to attack Iran, it would be hypocritical to bitch if Iran crossed the same airspace to retaliate.

Joe Biden is a ass, he is starting to make Sarah Palin look smarter... I'm wondering if his role is to say something stupid enough to change the topic of conversation when Obama wants an issue put on the back burner.

Maybe Iran needs nukes, at least they haven't bombed their neighbors lately, unlike some...

" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Monday, July 6, 2009 2:02 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Maybe Joe didn't get the word to this idiot

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8137046.stm

Mugabe calls US envoy 'an idiot'
Archive photo of Johnnie Carson, from 2002
Mr Carson was the first US government official to meet Mr Mugabe for years

Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe has branded a top US envoy "an idiot" with a condescending attitude.

He said that Johnnie Carson, US assistant secretary of state for African affairs, wanted to dictate what Zimbabwe could and could not do.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:45 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

Iran attacks Biden's Israel remarks
Biden said the US would not stand in the way of Israel in its dealings with Iran's nuclear ambitions [AFP]

Iran will hold the US responsible for any Israeli attack against the country, Ali Larijani, the speaker of Iran's parliament, has said.

His remarks came after Joe Biden, the US vice-president, said that Washington would not dictate the way Israel deals with Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

"We will consider the Americans responsible in any adventure launched by the Zionist entity," Larijani said in Doha, the capital of Qatar, on Monday during an official visit.

"No politician or person in the world can imagine that the Zionist entity can lead an operation without getting the green light from the United States."

Larijani said the Islamic republic's response to an attack would be "decisive and painful".

Israel's interest

Biden said in an interview on Sunday that the US would not stand in the way of Israel in its dealings with Iran's nuclear ambitions.

"Israel can determine for itself - it's a sovereign nation - what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else," he told ABC television.

"Whether we agree or not. They're entitled to do that ... We cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do when they make a determination, if they make a determination, that they're existentially threatened."

Larijani said Biden's comments was "political manoeuvre. We have heard a lot of these words in the past".

"Biden, by saying that they (the United States) can't prevent such an operation, has taken the wrong route and revealed his card".

Asked about US calls for dialogue, Larijani said: "We want to work seriously. ... But on one side they tell us 'we want to resolve the problems and negotiate', on another we hear what Mr Biden says."

No 'green light'

Following the controversy triggered by Biden's interview, the US administration denied that it was giving Israel any green light to attack Iran or that it was reconsidering plans to engage diplomatically with Tehran.

"I certainly would not want to give a green light to any kind of military action," Ian Kelly, the US state department spokesman, said late on Monday.

But he echoed Biden's point that Washington considered Israel a "sovereign country" with a right to make its own military decisions.

"We're not going to dictate its actions," Kelly said.

"We're also committed to Israel's security. And we share Israel's deep concerns about Iran's nuclear programme."

Kelly brushed aside the idea that Biden was signalling a move by the Obama administration to drop its policy of diplomatic engagement with Iran, saying: "I wouldn't read into it any more than what you see."

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There you go, if you arm and fund a rogue state, then their actions are your responsibly.

Biden is an ass

" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:05 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/07/20097774858107336.htm
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Barack Obama, the US president, has called for Russia and America to unite in efforts to prevent North Korea and Iran from developing their nuclear ambitions.

Now Obama wants Russias help in dictating to other countrys... but he talk to Biden ? , I thought that wasn't happening anymore...

Biden is such an ass

" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Friday, July 10, 2009 9:23 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

US politician urges Iran 'sabotage'
Gingrich says the US should target Iran's oil and gas infrastructure to topple the government [EPA file]

The former speaker of the US House of Representatives has said that the US should "sabotage" Iran's oil and gas infrastructure as part of its efforts to bring down the government.

In an interview with Al Jazeera's Avi Lewis for the Fault Lines programme, Republican Newt Gingrich said targeting Iran's refinery would spark an economic crisis that would destabilise the government in Tehran.

He said the US should "use covert operations … to create a gasoline-led crisis to try and replace the regime".

"I think we have a vested interest, the world has a vested interest, in a responsible Iranian government, just as we have a vested interest in a responsible North Korean government," he said.

In depth

Newt Gingrich speaks to Al Jazeera on Iran

While Barack Obama, the US president, has attempted diplomatic engagement with Iran following years of icy relations, some of his administration's critics have been calling for destabilisation instead.

But Gingrich qualified that such a tactic to destabilise would only be "one piece out of many".

"I think that the Reagan strategy in Eastern Europe in the late 1980s is the right strategy: we use economic, diplomatic, psychological pressures to try to change the regime."

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/07/200971023542914638.
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And now we have an American political figure calling for terrorist attacks......

Will the hypocrisy end ?

" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Friday, July 10, 2009 3:32 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Maybe Gingrich should be charged under the patriot act

Title VIII alters the definitions of terrorism, and establishes or re-defines rules with which to deal with it. It redefined the term "domestic terrorism" to broadly include mass destruction as well as assassination or kidnapping as a terrorist activity. The definition also encompasses activities that are "dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" and are intended to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population,"

3 to 5 for attepting to incite acts of terrorism....

wouldn't that be grand

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:28 AM

PIRATECAT

Now you know where that 50 billon dollars went that Bernie's got stashed. There is alot ponsy skims that help Israel. Now myself I like the jews. They don't arrest their soldiers and border agents for doing their job. Obama's biggest mistake was not coming to the side of the rebels in Iran. When Israel strikes, Iran will fire it's silk worm missiles into the gulf. This will knock out the world's oil supply overnight. Refineries, rigs, ships you get the picture. US will have to intervene. So will China and Russia. France will come only when America has secured the area. But hey don't sweat it will be drilling in Alaska now, off the east coast, Utah, and Colorado. This will give a boom to the economy. That lame old story about us arming Israel, give me a break that sounds like typical english liberal jew hating bs. We armed Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Jordan, etc. Now you probalbly don't know Israel arms Muslim countries like Turkey didn't know that did ya. Those jews such slick devils. I already knew that and I didn't get it from the movie the International. That's how China got it's jf fighter through a 3 way deal with Pakistan. Yep that's how the world works. None of this is classified you can research it yourself. And you think PirateNews may not be that far off on his conspiracy notions. later gator

Looks alittle like a mirage, F16, but a whole alot like the Northrop F20 tigershark. Of course the corrupt generals went with the F16. Then congress chopped the YF17 to pieces and we went that piece of junk the F/A18.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:52 AM

CHRISISALL

We should nuke the site from orbit. Only way to be sure.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:22 AM

PIRATECAT

Won't work the Koreans have Icarus.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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