PN SAYS - Commie Obama makes private medical care a CRIME by piratenews

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Paranoid schizo.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 6:28 AM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Moron.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 6:36 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Aw, c'mon PN! Leave your tag up there to let people know who's posting. Say it loud and say it proud!

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Friday, July 17, 2009 6:36 AM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Paranoid schizo.

Investor's Business Daily: Government-Run Healthcare Is A Prescription For Failure
and a $2.5-trillion tax increase...
www.ibdeditorials.com/series26.aspx

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ObamaCare to make Private Health Care ILLEGAL!

It’s Not An Option

By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

Congress: It didn’t take long to run into an “uh-oh” moment when reading the House’s “health care for all Americans” bill. Right there on Page 16 is a provision making individual private medical insurance illegal.

When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it. So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee.

It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of “Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage,” the “Limitation On New Enrollment” section of the bill clearly states:

“Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage,” the “Limitation On New Enrollment” section of the bill clearly states:

“Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day” of the year the legislation becomes law.

So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won’t be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.

www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3138

Hard to pay mandatory medical insurance when you cant pay your mortgage or car payments. That's why Haliburton was paid to build debtor death camps for Hussein Obama Soetoro.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 6:45 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

What you failed to notice is the phrase "except as provided"... and didn't read further. This is on page 19:

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Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. ”

What does THAT mean? It means that private insurance which is offered subsequent to the passage of the bill must meet certain minimum requirements, particulalry NO EXCLUSIONS FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. In other words, private insurers will no longer be allowed to cherry-pick and will no longer be allowed to kick people off the rolls if they file a claim, unless fraud is involved.

Get your friggin' story straight, ya maroon!

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Friday, July 17, 2009 6:50 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Oh, BTW.... I'm with Obama on this one. Private health insurers who say they provide the most efficient health insurance and offer the best options can't whine and cry about being 'outcompeted" by a government which is supposedly incompetent and inefficient. If they think they can't compete with a government plan, maybe they should seriously think about cutting their "administrative" costs (ie huge salaries for the CEOs) and profits, and buckle down to providing a REALLY cost- effective option. But IMHO they won't 'cause they're blood-suckers pure and simple.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 7:19 AM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
What you failed to notice is the phrase "except as provided"... and didn't read further. This is on page 19:

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Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. ”

What does THAT mean? It means that private insurance which is offered subsequent to the passage of the bill must meet certain minimum requirements, particulalry NO EXCLUSIONS FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. In other words, private insurers will no longer be allowed to cherry-pick and will no longer be allowed to kick people off the rolls if they file a claim, unless fraud is involved.

Get your friggin' story straight, ya maroon!

Banning sick people is how insurance companies make a 95% profit margin, paying out only 5% in claims, and paying executives like Warren buffett $30-billion/year tax-free salary.

Now all private insurors will go out of business ASAP. Hospitals in Massachusettes are already suing State of Mass for only paying 60-cents on the dollar.

A doctor told me he would lose money if he performed a colonoscopy in the hospital. So he doped me unconscious like Michael Jackson and didn't do the procedure, refused to give me my test results, and refused to bill the govt insurance in TN. I was his only TNCare customer, and he didn't want to lose whatever insurance payments he was getting for NOT treating anybody. Then govt TNCare cancelled me and my wife, when we are uninsurable by private insurors, which we can't afford anyway, and employers refuse to provide medical benfits.

As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital. All vaccine records were "lost" for all Gulf War 1 soldiers. My wife was butchered by military doctors in "medical school experiments" run amok, and can never have kids as a result. Her VA disability pension was stolen by VA, Congress and White Houses, as perped against 95% of all disabled retired veterans.

THAT'S what Hussein Obama Soetoro and Billary Clinton Blythe Rockefeller want for everyone... besides themselves of course.

As for the "quality" of private medical treatment and private insurance, I was in extreme pain every day for 12 years, with doctors telling me there is no cure, until I met a Hells Angel who told me her grandmother cured rheumatism FMS and arthritis with apple cider vinegar and honey. 24 hours later I was cured for $15 for a year's supply, so long as I take it 3x every day. But doctors will be disbarred if they tell their patients about it. Good for pets too.
www.bragg.com

You dont need a doctor to cure you of most diseases, including cancers. That's why Prince Charles and the elite go to holistic NDs and only eat organic.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 7:30 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse

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Originally posted by piratenews:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
What you failed to notice is the phrase "except as provided"... and didn't read further. This is on page 19:

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Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. ”

What does THAT mean? It means that private insurance which is offered subsequent to the passage of the bill must meet certain minimum requirements, particulalry NO EXCLUSIONS FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. In other words, private insurers will no longer be allowed to cherry-pick and will no longer be allowed to kick people off the rolls if they file a claim, unless fraud is involved.

Get your friggin' story straight, ya maroon!

Banning sick people is how insurance companies make a 95% profit margin, paying out only 5% in claims, and paying executives like Warren buffett $30-billion/year tax-free salary.

Now all private insurors will go out of business ASAP. Hospitals in Massachusettes are already suing State of Mass for only paying 60-cents on the dollar.

A doctor told me he would lose money if he performed a colonoscopy in the hospital. So he doped me unconscious like Michael Jackson and didn't do the procedure, refused to give me my test results, and refused to bill the govt insurance in TN. I was his only TNCare customer, and he didn't want to lose whatever insurance payments he was getting for NOT treating anybody. Then govt TNCare cancelled me and my wife, when we are uninsurable by private insurors, which we can't afford anyway, and employers refuse to provide medical benfits.

As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital. All vaccine records were "lost" for all Gulf War 1 soldiers. My wife was butchered by military doctors in "medical school experiments" run amok, and can never have kids as a result. Her VA disability pension was stolen by VA, Congress and White Houses, as perped against 95% of all disabled retired veterans.

THAT'S what Hussein Obama Soetoro and Billary Clinton Blythe Rockefeller want for everyone... besides themselves of course.

As for the "quality" of private medical treatment and private insurance, I was in extreme pain every day for 12 years, with doctors telling me there is no cure, until I met a Hells Angel who told me her grandmother cured rheumatism FMS and arthritis with apple cider vinegar and honey. 24 hours later I was cured for $15 for a year's supply, so long as I take it 3x every day. But doctors will be disbarred if they tell their patients about it. Good for pets too.
www.bragg.com

You dont need a doctor to cure you of most diseases, including cancers. That's why Prince Charles and the elite go to holistic NDs and only eat organic.

Oh PLeasssse stop taking it!!!!

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Friday, July 17, 2009 8:40 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Wow, PN, let me get this straight....

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Banning sick people is how insurance companies make a 95% profit margin, paying out only 5% in claims, and paying executives like Warren buffett $30-billion/year tax-free salary.

First of all, Warren Buffet isn't in health insurance. But I take your point. Health insurance executives make unconscionable amounts of money

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Ron Williams - Aetna - $24,300,112
H. Edward Hanway - CIGNA - $12,236,740
Angela Braly - WellPoint - $9,844,212
Dale Wolf - Coventry Health Care - $9,047,469
Michael Neidorff - Centene - $8,774,483

www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2009/06/obscene.html and health insurance companies make unconscionable profits by not providing care. And yet, this setup is somehow preferable to a public plan which will ALSO "not provide care" (according to you) but at a much cheaper rate???

And then there is the quality of care. According to you public care is a sham

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So he doped me unconscious like Michael Jackson and didn't do the procedure ... Then govt TNCare cancelled me and my wife, when we are uninsurable by private insurors...As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital....

But then

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As for the "quality" of private medical treatment and private insurance, I was in extreme pain every day for 12 years, with doctors telling me there is no cure

So much for private care, too, huh? But, what the hell! You don't need doctors anyway, right?

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You dont need a doctor to cure you of most diseases, including cancers. That's why Prince Charles and the elite go to holistic NDs and only eat organic

So according to you, private health insurance is a scam because it bills exorbitantly but doesn't provide you with the procedures that you don't need, and government insurance is also a scam because it doesn't bill as much but ALSO doesn't provide you with the procedures that you don't need????

Excuse me if I puke 'cause my head is spinning.

Done here, PN. Just wanted to show you that you're not making any sense whatsoever.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 8:46 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Oh, and BTW- stop removing the PN flag from the title. When you do that, it implies that the only way you can get people to even READ your posts is by fooling them into it. And I know that's not your intention!

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Friday, July 17, 2009 9:49 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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That's why Haliburton was paid to build debtor death camps for Hussein Obama Soetoro.

They were? Man, they built them QUICK, then - the man's only been in office for 6 months, and already he's gotten debtor death camps completed? Who says government's ineffective?!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Friday, July 17, 2009 9:50 AM

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As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital.

Well, have you tried showing them your birth certificate?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Friday, July 17, 2009 10:01 AM

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...and paying executives like Warren buffett $30-billion/year tax-free salary.

You have this continual, ongoing problem with numbers, PN. You feel the need to CONSTANTLY inflate numbers, thinking if you just make them bigger, they'll become more true. Buffett might be WORTH $30 billion (on paper, anyway, which O2B will tell you means his net worth is really zero, unless he gets it in gold or tulip bulbs or salt, but NOT in dollars), but that doesn't mean he makes $30 billion a year as his "tax-free salary". BTW, Buffett was one of the few who decried Bush's tax cuts for the rich, saying he was one of the rich, and he definitely didn't need those tax breaks.

You've also made bogus, completely bullshit claims about Alex Jones making $300,000 per day - which would make him a Rothschild by birth if it were true, and doubtless makes him a "jew" in your eyes anyway. And you've claimed something like 750 million illegal aliens set to take over the U.S.

You really need to get a grip on your numbers, because as I've told you time and again, your claims are so outrageous they completely undermine any shred of credibility you might otherwise have ever had.

In other words, you come off as a government hack. An Operative. You spew whatever words other operatives like Alex put in your mouth, you dance to their music, you do what you're told by your government masters.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

[sarcasm] Oh, THANKS Kwicko! [/sarcasm]

Now I have diet soda in my nose and on my keyboard and screen!

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Friday, July 17, 2009 12:13 PM

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[sarcasm] Oh, THANKS Kwicko! [/sarcasm]

Now I have diet soda in my nose and on my keyboard and screen!

We aims to please. :)

Just pay it forward. ChrisIsAll did it to me, so I passed it along. Now it's YOUR turn to make someone else spew soda on their 'puter!

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

"Will somebody ask me where we came up with 2 trillion dollars in the course of the last six months? Did we wish for it out of the air? Have people gone mad in this country? You don't have that money. We are claiming that a bankrupt government can save a bankrupt banking system.

Explain to me how that happens, because I think that's impossible."

I don't know... Mr. Alan Keyes makes so much sense here I wish he was president. (A view I'm sure I'd change if he actually were president failed to live by his words like all presidents do)

I find it funny nobody posted on the truths the man has said instead of piling on the hate on the resident loon.

Meanwhile, I'm paying 8 bucks a pack of smokes to support our debt and we're all paying 4 bucks for a loaf of bread.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:36 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I don't hate PN, I just want to know which posts are his so I don't have to read them.

AFA WHO bankrupted the system in the first place, you can start by looking at Goldman Sucks, Shitty Bank, Skank of America, and all of the other firms that sucked money out of the economy. Why aren't you demanding accountability from them?

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:37 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Why isn't he demanding accountability from them?

Because that's not FAIR !

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:45 AM

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Meanwhile, I'm paying 8 bucks a pack of smokes to support our debt and we're all paying 4 bucks for a loaf of bread.

1) That's why I quit. Fuck 'em. They don't collect shit from me if I don't play.

2) 4 bucks for bread? You're shopping at the wrong store. If I splurge and buy the Deli Rye, it's still $1.59 a loaf.

Meanwhile, I'm paying $2.29 a gallon for gas, down from a peak during the Bush years of almost $5 a gallon. And if anyone here wants to say that that peak price wasn't Bush's fault, then please don't EVER try to put the price of ANYTHING on Obama or any other President, okay?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:13 AM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Commie-Fascist Massachusettes already makes lack of private medical insurance a crime, punishable by $900 fine per year plus jail, or a lifetime in jail for civil contempt of court, which doubled insurance rates and forced doctors to refuse to admit new patients or go bankrupt, signed into unconstitutional "law" by Satanic Morman governor Mitt "MKULTRA Sexslave Programmer" Romney (ask Cathy O'Brien):
www.boston.com/business/articles/2008/01/01/penalties_to_rise_for_shun
ning_insurance/
http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/01/11/the-massachusetts-hea
lth-insurance-boondoggle/

Every (police) state already makes lack of private car insurance a crime, punishable by jail as a criminal misdemeanor (unless you read the fine print of the statute for a list of "exceptions" to "financial responsibility requirements").

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Meanwhile, I'm paying 8 bucks a pack of smokes to support our debt and we're all paying 4 bucks for a loaf of bread.

1) That's why I quit. Fuck 'em. They don't collect shit from me if I don't play.

Congrats to you. The average tobacco addict throws away $100,000 on smokes, at 1 pack per day, before the latest tax increase. In Europe its 4 times higher... That's slavery!

It's also mind control, as proven with US troops in WW2 who got free smokes, then 80% of US troops refused to shoot at enemy soldiers, even in self defense.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:35 AM

RIVERDANCER

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Originally posted by piratenews:
babble

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:19 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"It's also mind control, as proven with US troops in WW2 who got free smokes, then 80% of US troops refused to shoot at enemy soldiers, even in self defense."

Yeah, because who would want soldiers that actually, you know, SHOOT at the enemy --- !!?? Better to give them tobacco to turn them into mind-controlled lap-dogs ! Then they can win the war and, uhhmmm ... ... no wait ! Then they can LOSE the war and ... uuhhhhh ... ...

... never mind.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:31 PM

Ruh-roh... Looks like they got their "mind-kontrol kemicals" into Rue the good old-fashioned way - through fluoridated water!

See? Even if you don't smoke, you're still screwed.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:34 PM