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Out2Lunch Backs Down, Admits the 'Birfers' are Complete Nutjobs!

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Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello Out,

You are mistaken regarding the pixellation. There are big blurry polygons surrounding every word and line in the document. There is no typewriter that creates big blurry polygons. These polygons are either a byproduct of digitizing the image, changing its digital format, or altering it digitally without cleaning it up after.

I found this to be a good comment from Mike: "It's also kind of funny that this "birth certificate" provides exactly NONE of the information that birfers dismiss the ACTUAL birth certificate from Hawaii for not providing."

The Obama Birth conspiracy theorists should be willing to apply the same standard to all evidence, even their own.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, August 7, 2009 12:00 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Out,

You are mistaken regarding the pixellation. There are big blurry polygons surrounding every word and line in the document. There is no typewriter that creates big blurry polygons. These polygons are either a byproduct of digitizing the image, changing its digital format, or altering it digitally without cleaning it up after.

I found this to be a good comment from Mike: "It's also kind of funny that this "birth certificate" provides exactly NONE of the information that birfers dismiss the ACTUAL birth certificate from Hawaii for not providing."

The Obama Birth conspiracy theorists should be willing to apply the same standard to all evidence, even their own.

--Anthony




That's been the POV held by the Folk who said that this would be an issue--A Constitutional Crisis , unless it was handled proactively...

Obama and Co. have not been proactive about releasing any relevant records with regard to the pResident's identity and eligibility--With the exception of the 'Hawaii' certificate , which was altered by being redacted in the first place...

Instead , they've been proactive in spending funds to obstruct , obfuscate and delay--Basically , taking a 5th Amendment strategy , which begs the question ,
" Will the Truth incriminate the pResident ? "

My copy of the document is pretty clear...Understandably , if there have been digital enlargements made of it , then there could be polygonal artifacts left by the process...Anyway , that is an aside...

That's why there are a number of Lawsuits pending on this matter...I wouldn't choose Ms. Taitz as the foremost in the prosecution of these issues ; she's just one of several attorneys with cases pending .

One of the Lawsuits filed by Berg is under seal...Which makes one wonder about the volatility of the evidence contained therein...

Still we question , will we still have a country worth saving when these matters have finally been adjudicated ?

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Friday, August 7, 2009 12:07 PM

WASHNWEAR


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
...and internet-dentist...



BWAH-HAH-HAH!

She's got a brother who's a virtual chimney-sweep and her cousin moonlights as a massage-by-phone operator...



donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Friday, August 7, 2009 12:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Dang! The whole thing disappeared!

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Friday, August 7, 2009 1:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So, O2B...

Since you seem to be back from wherever you've been, how's about that "proof" or any shred of evidence that I or anyone else have ever tried to have you banned from this board? You made the claim, you seemed to want to stick by it until I called you on it, and then you vanished in a puff of asinine, and you've been disappearing every time I bring it up.

Do you have anything to back up your claim, or are you ready to admit that you were lying and casting aspersions out of desperation?


By the way, you reference *YOUR* copy of Obama's Australian birth certificate. I don't know what YOUR copy looks like, because I can only see the one that Mizz Taitz put up on her website, and it's pixellated to the point of ridiculousness. See for yourself at the link to it I posted above. That's the link to HER WEBSITE, not some whacko-left-wing-birther-denunciation website. That's the copy that SHE is using to try to prove her case.

Frankly, it looks far, FAR more suspicious than the Obama certificate from Hawaii.

Oh, and have you seen the Canadian one yet? The one that "proves" that Obama was born in Vancouver, British Columbia? (Forget it, Canadiens - you can't have him. He's OUR President!).
Yup, there's a Canadian "birth certificate" floating around that's even signed by a doctor named - and I'm not making this up - DUDLEY DO-RIGHT!

So, you have the official in charge of birth records in Hawaii stating that Obama's certificate is real and on file, and she's inspected and verified it. You have the State Department saying the same thing. And on the other side, you have these wingnut whackadoodles whose totality of "evidence" that backs their claims is... What? Fake birth certificates, badly forged? And you wonder why no court in the land will take you seriously? Really?

Mike

Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!

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Friday, August 7, 2009 1:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Dang! The whole thing disappeared!



Save early, save often.

Yes, I learned that the hard way.


Take your time, re-type it, because there's no way I'm letting go NOW; you've piqued my interest!

Mike

Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!

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Friday, August 7, 2009 1:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Damnit Kwicko!
Don't you see????

It's all part of a big conspiracy. One that began 48 years ago, with the announcement of an un-named baby boy in two Hawaiian newpapers! And the conspiracy has continued since then, each step inevitably leading to Obama's pre-destined Presidency. It's all part of their plan. One that's been in existance for millenia- at least since the founding of the Templars and the Fed!

Quote:

In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:
"Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

The identical announce- ment ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers. Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said. Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn's name, weight and time of birth.

This only goes to show that the 1961 Hawaiian Health Department was in on the scam. You clearly have NO IDEA how broad and deep this conspiracy is!
www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+of
ficials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s

+original+birth+certificate+still+exists
URL split for formatting


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Friday, August 7, 2009 2:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, Signy - how blind you are!

Didn't you notice what was NOT in the birth announcement for Obama?

Quote:

Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn's name, weight and time of birth.



HIS PLACE OF BIRTH!!! They list his parents' (alleged) address, they list the name, weight, time of birth - but nowhere do they say he was actually born IN Hawaii! That PROVES THAT HE WAS BORN IN KENYA. Or Australia. Or Canada. Or Zanzibar. Or Omaha (Obama? Omaha? Osama? See the connection?)

I don't know about you, but when *I* was born, my parents had the hospital send the birth announcement to every newspaper in the world, from Annapolis to Zanzibar and back again. So OF COURSE it would have been in the Hawaii newspapers, even if I were born in Mombassa!

How can you not see that, Sig?



Mike

Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!

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Friday, August 7, 2009 6:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


This just in:

WorldNetDaily, the prominent right-wing conspiracy website and one of the main proponents of the "birther" claims, now says the "Kenya" certificate is a fake.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106135

Quote:

Obama birth doc update: Kenya sources weigh in
Comparison with similar certificates suggests fakery, WND probe reveals
Posted: August 06, 2009
11:03 am Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

NEW YORK – The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND's investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.

WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.




Yup, even Jerome Corsi, one of the top "birthers", says Orly Taitz is full of crap.





Mike

Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!

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