African-Americans vs Black Americans by Wulfenstar

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Sorry, I got so sick of the ignorance here...

So I had to make a point.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:07 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Which, Im sure will be misunderstood and classified as racist.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Which, Im sure will be misunderstood and classified as racist.

Exactly .

That's one of the great privileges of being the first black pResident...

Being able to play the 'race card'. Preemptively .

'Cause anyone not in agreement with him or his policies is automatically 'racist'.
Guilty of 'hate crimes' . It's the new 'scarlet letter'.

Rated 'R' for 'racism'.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:38 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Did you listen to what was said?

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:40 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Not by me, I don't think. I know it embarrasses me, to a degree, to see people acting like fools, and certainly disgusts me. I'm sure there are people with different feelings, but I get pissed off by anyone acting stupid, as he said. I think it only has to do with race because he's Black and takes it more personally as a reflection of himself. I get equally offended because I'm HUMAN and it's a reflection of my species. I really do. As many things "blow my mind" as what he said, be they black or white.

Sounds like he's an Island person...and there, aside from perhaps the tourist areas, I imagine they behave quite a bit differently than Americans do. His focus on "respect" makes me think he's encountered that respect elsewhere so is shocked by the lack of it here.

If you WANT to make it about race, certainly you can, go ahead. But I see it more as about humanity, how a lot of the idiots in our society behave, whether it be the Black guys walking together with their pants nearly falling off they're so low, or the Valley Girl giggling with her simpleton girlfriends about my holding a St. Vincent de Paul bag of clothing.

What makes it about race?

Out; you're an idiot. Chris Rock is an idiot, too--but did you listen to what he said? He was talking about being pulled over by the police, made a joke about it, and about some guy saying "I take care of my kids" which is just what he should do, not something to brag about.

It has nothing to do with the original video posted (and why was yours deleted as an embed?). Just something to jump on the bandwagon about, eh? Pfffft.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Did you listen to what was said?

Sure...Can't say it was entertaining , or made a particular lot of sense...

That's why there's Chris Rock .

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:42 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"What makes it about race?"

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Good job. You pass.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:47 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I'm not here to pass or fail, I'm here to speak what I believe. Nobody has to agree with me. I just wish guys like Out were smart enough to understand what the original topic WAS, if they want to disagree with it. Ah well..."strange little species, we are..."

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I hope nobody minds my using color for my posts...I'm not just enjoying it, I'm finding it very useful in locating where I left off in long posts!

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Out; you're an idiot. Chris Rock is an idiot, too--but did you listen to what he said? He was talking about being pulled over by the police, made a joke about it, and about some guy saying "I take care of my kids" which is just what he should do, not something to brag about.

It has nothing to do with the original video posted (and why was yours deleted as an embed?). Just something to jump on the bandwagon about, eh? Pfffft.

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Ask the folk who posted the vid why they disabled embedding...Here , have another...

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm not here to pass or fail, I'm here to speak what I believe. Nobody has to agree with me. I just wish guys like Out were smart enough to understand what the original topic WAS, if they want to disagree with it. Ah well..."strange little species, we are..."

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You need not worry yourself 'bout how smart I am...Better save those wishes , you're gonna need them...

Not in particular disagreement with the folk here , but wonder why Wulf wasted my time with that nonsense...Several minutes out of my life that I won't get back...

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:51 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Out....

for that CR video... you pass too.

lol

(Sorry, that sh*t was hilarious)

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:05 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

What nonsense Nicki?

btw... disabling the embed is not something we control...

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:55 PM

An old man I know got a letter from the great B.O. , hat in hand , begging for help with passing 'health care reform'...

It went like this :

'...I just finished laying out my plan for health reform at a joint session of Congress. Now, I'm writing directly to you because what happens next is critical -- and I need your help.

...Change this big will not happen because I ask for it. It can only come when the nation demands it. Congress knows where I stand. Now they need to hear from you.

...The heart of my plan is simple: bring stability and security to Americans who already have health insurance, guarantee affordable coverage for those who don't, and rein in the cost of health care.'

The old man's reply :

'...All I want is for you to cut off all foreign aid , bring the troops home , and put AIPAC out of business !'

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:03 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
What nonsense Nicki?

The Chris Rock thing...yes, it was funny, he usually is, but it had nothing to do that I could see with what you initially posted. He obviously thought so, too, given his remarks. So why bother?

NIKI

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:14 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
What nonsense Nicki?
The Chris Rock thing...yes, it was funny, he usually is, but it had nothing to do that I could see with what you initially posted. He obviously thought so, too, given his remarks. So why bother?

NIKI

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So , what 'Niki' is saying , in so many words , is that Chris Rock is 'funny' , for a 'stupid' black man...

And , then she imagines that I'm 'off-topic' somehow ?

Why are delusional folk allowed 'Net connections , again ?

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:23 PM

BYTEMITE

O2B, everyone wants that, well, assuming by foreign aid you mean "peacekeeping"/occupation.

But the question was about health care...

Can't see either embed right now, I'll watch them later.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:56 PM

BYTEMITE

Um, and also, I believe Niki was saying that Wulf was saying he felt your video was off topic.

I think I saw that clip before though, I do recall it's very funny. I'm glad that there's people like Chris Rock who can highlight race issues and diffuse the tension through humour. And then make people think.

As for the original video... I haven't necessarily seen gang fights like he describes, but really, are any of those black stereotypes? not all gangs are black. And I've seen white males be very intimidating on public transportation, and like Niki said, shallow girls who laugh at people about fashion, and also white people who listen to their ipods/walkman very loud.

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:43 PM

DREAMTROVE

Race is not an issue to Obama. Anyone who has lived in Hyde Park knows that it's not an issue. I suspect the same is true of Hawaii. Some places it's an issue. Obama has never lived in such places. The first time he encountered racism was probably when he met the Clintons (I kid, I know that he has met racism, but racism-lite. It's really not an issue to him. It was an issue for Sharpton, Jackson, and I don't even want to try to speculate what happens in the brain of Louis Farrahkhan, I suspect it's a series of random circuitry malfunctions, resulting in the occasional "I might not have killed Malcolm X" and more commonly "19!")

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:57 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while...

You know, many people have replaced out-and-out racism, for the more subtle kind. The kind that says "Its not your fault you can't do it, its just that you are XYZ (born here, been held down, not given the right opportunities ect.")

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Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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So , what 'Niki' is saying , in so many words , is that Chris Rock is 'funny' , for a 'stupid' black man...

Dang. SOOOOOO close. I don't think it was Chris Rock that she was calling stupid.

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Why are delusional folk allowed 'Net connections , again ?

Ahem. So they can claim that I tried to have them banned?

Sorry, man, but you walked right into that one.

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Friday, September 11, 2009 7:26 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Uh, let's see...where exactly did I say anything about "black man"? Same jokes would have been funny spoken by a WHITE stand-up, if put in the third person.

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Why are delusional folk allowed 'Net connections , again ?

I dunno...who gave you one?

I didn't say you were "off topic", only that what you posted didn't relate to what Wulf posted, so why did you bother?

DT,

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It was an issue for Sharpton, Jackson,

I would disagree, in that it's THE issue for them, the one and only, their raison d'etre...! And I loved what you said about Farrakhan...and agree wholeheartedly!

Yup, Wulf, you got it,for me:

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many people have replaced out-and-out racism, for the more subtle kind. The kind that says "Its not your fault you can't do it, its just that you are XYZ

But the overt kind still exists nicely, too, as does the "he's an asshole" while subconsciously knowing "I only think he's an asshole because he's XYZ"--but they're not aware of that part.

Or how about the parents who bitch: "That kid was only better than mine at school because he's Japanese"? 'Cuz they often ARE, but the parents never stop to think it's sometimes 'cuz they get SUPPORT in schooling from their parents...

Actually, Mike, I DID call Chris Rock stupid--I'm sick to death of standups who make their entire "schtick" about their race, their sex, gross jokes, hollering at the top of their lungs, etc., and the people who laugh at whatever comes out of their mouths, when if you repeat the joke to yourself, it's not funny at all. But I didn't mean CR was "stupid" in the "dumb" meaning; tho' I DID mean both ways where Out is concerned...

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Friday, September 11, 2009 7:33 AM