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How many hypocritical Republicans can dance on the head of a sex scandal?
Friday, September 11, 2009 8:17 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Spank me, then let's do lunch By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist In my more subdued moments of delighting in the pathos and adulterous whinings of incalculable greasy right-wing politicians, I oft wonder at the threshold, the limit, if there is some sort of karmic boundary that will eventually snap and recoil and strike them all down on the spot, some sort of grand tsunami of wayward justice that will sweep them all to the great Thai brothel in the sky after one too many gay lovers, meth addictions, adulterous affairs, teen boy fetishes comes to light and the world says, you know what? Enough of you. Back to the primordial slop you go. It's a fantasy, I know, and an unrealistic one at that, given how there appears to be no mechanism in the reptilian political mind to allow for nuance, no space for notions of responsibility and consequence. It simply doesn't exist. Really, half the GOP congressman in Washington could admit to a gay affair and the other half to snorting blow off the tailbone of a needy lobbyist/hooker/intern in front of a church on Sunday, and still the party leadership would say, gosh, that's too bad, what a shame, let us now respect the privacy of the families involved at this difficult time and leave them alone and hey by the way, Obama is a socialist tyrant who wants to indoctrinate your babies. Fear him! So it is we observe the end of the puny political career of California state assemblyman Mike Duvall, R-Riverside County (AKA the dystopian wasteland of Orange County, to you and me), the classic chubby, glad-handing political slug if ever, boasting to a colleague of his rather gross sexual exploits with not one, but two different mistresses -- one allegedly a lobbyist with whom Duvall did regular state business -- on a live microphone he thought was turned off. Ah, technology, will you ever cease to bless us with your copious gifts? The reaction to Duvall's recorded slop? Pretty much one giant shrug. Sure, he resigned immediately for causing a "distraction." Sure, everyone expressed their pseudo-shock and said the right things about investigations and repercussions and tsk tsk tsk. But even his colleagues stopped short of outright condemnation. And no one anywhere was really the slightest bit surprised by any of it. The truly astonishing thing is how such revelations don't ooze to the surface every single day. Who by now doesn't see the massive hypocrisy in so many of GOP positions? Who by now hasn't seen the miles-long list of "ethics-based" Republicans who have gladly stuck their fingers into the socket of any power skirt who walks by? Another day, another "family values" Republican praised for his ethical fortitude but who's really about as moral as a cobra at a Mouseketeers reunion. Of course, in your more cynical and wary heart, you know it's not just the Republicans. Such 'scandal' is merely SOP for Washington, sex and sleaze and hooking up pretty much the name of the game no matter your gender or party affiliation; politicos nailing lobbyists, senators nailing interns, aides nailing publicists, the corridors of power from the mayor's office all the way up to the Big House simply reeking with used condoms and grainy hidden videos and a thousand tubby Mike Duvalls spanking a thousand gold-digging lobbyists who have, it must be said, rather repulsive taste in men. To imagine Washington as somehow slightly more pure or principled than, say, your average Midwestern frat house during Beer Bong Week is not merely naive, it's downright ignorant. Maybe the real question is why we insist on believing our elected officials are somehow more immune, more upright and just. Is it simply that we like to imagine we're being led by people slightly more thoughtful and wise than ourselves? Willful ignorance, thy name is America. Of course, it's not merely our doing. The GOP squeezes its own thick layer of hypocrisy over the entire political landscape, making the stink that much more rancid and profound. You don't find many Dems wailing about the need to lock up the homosexuals out of one side of their mouth, while delivering blowjobs to their gay lover with the other. To many keeping score, it ain't really about the deeds themselves; it's all about the hypocrisy. As the AP reported, Duvall "had received a 100 percent rating from Capitol Resource Institute, a conservative advocacy group, for his votes on legislation considered pro-family during the 2007-08 legislative session." How sweet. And also, you know, repulsive. It doth bring forth the question, once again and for the millionth time: What does it take? How many politicos must openly mock and betray and spit all over their BS family values shtick before anyone learns anything, before a shift transpires, before a majority of the GOP wakes up and says, "Oh my God, you know what? We've been going about this all wrong." You already know the answer. The number is infinite. There is no threshold, there is no boundary, because that's simply not how it works. To the GOP, Duvall and his ilk are just more sinners in need of correction and forgiveness, not actually another slimy example of a failed and unfeasible ideology. It's directly akin to any sort of religious fundamentalist or Bible literalists: There are no failed platforms, only failed followers. There is nothing wrong with the core idea, no matter how childish or untenable it may be. There are only flawed humans, unable to keep their pants on, their desires in check, their ids sealed in concrete. Guilt and shame forever and ever, amen. So we merely pause for a hiccup of time, and bid farewell to another minor Republican whose name you will forget roughly 36 hours from now, whose lecherous, archetypal deeds will hereby be added the Great Book of Conservative/Religious Hypocrisy and Pitiable Obviousness, a tome far more reliable than any political platform, far larger and more timeless than any Bible. Duvall's trifling tale will be entered in as yet another of those entirely forgettable, slightly nauseating footnotes, full of spank and sleaze, signifying nothing.
Friday, September 11, 2009 8:24 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Friday, September 11, 2009 8:27 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Liberals and Republicans... really important
Friday, September 11, 2009 8:30 AM
Friday, September 11, 2009 8:43 AM
Quote: lobbyists have prostitute mentality anyway, so bona fide SEX might not be too much of a leap[/quote}On ANY side!
Friday, September 11, 2009 9:48 AM
Quote:“Spanking should be of sufficient magnitude to cause genuine tears.” Afterwards when the child crumples “to the breast of his parent, he should be welcomed with open, warm, loving arms.” “Tell him how much you love him.”
Friday, September 11, 2009 9:57 AM
Friday, September 11, 2009 10:06 AM
BYTEMITE
Friday, September 11, 2009 10:08 AM
Friday, September 11, 2009 10:22 AM
Quote:you all bend your knees to 1 of 2 camps. And then try to claim the moral high ground.
Quote:So long as there's mutual consent and public dollars aren't involved, I DON'T CARE.
Friday, September 11, 2009 11:49 AM
Quote:In order to get back into the fold, all you have to do is make proper obeisance to TBTB, cry big tears and promise that you’ll never ever be bad again. (But if you are, you’ll go through the whole charade again.)
Quote:Non-RWAers expect people to "walk the talk"
Quote:Frak that, we want more options
Quote:I also call out the writer of this article for painting homosexuality as something unseemly if infidelity, abuse, and bribery/sexual favours are not involved
Quote:If you claim to be for one thing but do another AND you're in public office...
Quote:We have to have SOME trust that our politicans will do what they say
Friday, September 11, 2009 12:28 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Friday, September 11, 2009 12:31 PM
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Friday, September 11, 2009 1:38 PM
Friday, September 11, 2009 2:25 PM
Friday, September 11, 2009 2:36 PM
Quote:So when Bill goddamn Clinton was in office and most everyone on the left thought there were better things to worry about, and all the right was calling for blood...
Friday, September 11, 2009 2:43 PM
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Friday, September 11, 2009 6:10 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:40 AM
Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:38 AM
Quote:it's that they pretend not to be in the face of demonstrated evidence that they are!
Quote:wake up their RWA suporters to the fact that they're being lied to by people who do nothing more than put on a show.
Saturday, September 12, 2009 4:53 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:The Shatner thing was hysterical! I've seen him do a lot of stuff I think funny...not because he's a good actor, he never was, but because I admire the man's willingness to make a fool of himself and not stand on his "iconic" pedestal. I think he's great (and mind you, I HATED him in Star Trek--exactly for some of the things he makes fun of himself now).
Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:32 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:A week before one of ex-Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's closest advisers was to go to prison for fraud, the commercial roofing contractor died at a Chicago hospital, and the mayor of a town where he was found said the death was being investigated as a suicide. An autopsy was planned Sunday for Christopher G. Kelly, 51, who was discovered Friday night in a lumber yard parking lot in Country Club Hills, a town just southwest of Chicago. Kelly died Saturday morning, authorities said.
Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:47 AM
Quote:But that's just it, they don't SEE it--remember the symptoms? Nothing will ever make them admit--even the few who DO see it.
Quote:Frank Schaeffer, a former co-conspirator with Pat Robertson, Jerry Fawell, et.al. has written a book explaining just how the leadership of the Right Wing developed and and implemented a plan to inspire "crazies" to kill. In Crazy For God he takes the reader though the late night sessions where they planned the psychologcal method of incendiary rant, to be constantly repeated by - seemingly - different voices which was designed to convince any would-be assassin that God needed him to kill. It further explains how the rhetoric was to be done in such a way that the leaders and appointed speakers would have "deniability" following the fact. These tactics were also designed to create "Manchurian Citizens" able to be manipulated toward any end, and used eventually in an effort to take over the ballot boxes of the Nation.
Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:38 AM
Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:59 AM
Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Okay, yeah, I agree. Numerous people have come out since the end of the Bush Dictatorship to talk about what really happened, and there are other defectors from every cult, clan, and group who eventually see the corruption/idiocy going on around them and speak out. I'll give you that. But for the vast majority of idjits out there, hypocrisy blindness is a chronic disability!
Quote: And Mike, you nailed my feelings about Shatner to a "T". When they revived Star Trek he did say long, long ago, as it looks like you already know, that he knew he couldn't act. He found it amusing that he'd become such an icon and hey ho, figured out "why not go with it"? But that we could all be so honest about our abilities and laugh at ourselves as easily!
Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Yeah, another Mark Morford, but he's so GOOD at it!
Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:00 PM
Monday, September 14, 2009 2:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You act as if you're surprised that Hearst would employ a liberal, or that they could be seen as "playing both sides against the middle".
Monday, September 14, 2009 6:46 AM
Quote:See, this column is not merely about how to stay relevant and engaged in this slapdash snarkfest of a modern world just by forcing yourself, against your will and better judgment, to get over your curmudgeonly resistance to newfangled gizmos and social networking and things that go GoogleBingTweet in the night.
Monday, September 14, 2009 6:51 AM
Quote:You know what's sad, Nik? As many as have come out since the end of the Bush Debacle, it's still only been 8 months since he left. There are going to be more, many more, in the years to come. Too bad it took 'em so long to find their balls - um, I mean, their consciences... The worst part is those left behind, who not only refuse to see the cult for what it is, but actively attack those who leave it and try to expose it.
Monday, September 14, 2009 6:54 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: or how many hypocritical Dems... Jesus. Set up 2 camps, then let them have at each other.
Monday, September 14, 2009 6:57 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 7:14 AM
Quote:Set up 2 camps, then let them have at each other.
Monday, September 14, 2009 7:15 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Secondly, Mark Morford is DEFINITELY not anti-Capitalist...what a joke.
Monday, September 14, 2009 7:34 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 8:26 AM
Quote:And I notice you're picking up the usual Liberal tone around here: insulting and condescending. Too bad.
Monday, September 14, 2009 8:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Set up 2 camps, then let them have at each other. I can't... it just too EASY, *laughing* Oh man, Mikey... your ball. -F
Monday, September 14, 2009 8:42 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 9:27 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 9:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: What part of Satire and Sarcasm escapes you, Geeze ?
Monday, September 14, 2009 9:42 AM
Quote: I'm also not surprised at the number of folks, like him, who rant that they hate Capitalism yet work for and buy from Capitalists. You'd think they'd have the courage of their convictions, and deal only with communes, etc.
Monday, September 14, 2009 9:56 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 10:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:And I notice you're picking up the usual Liberal tone around here: insulting and condescending. Too bad. Show me the part of THAT response that wasn't supposed to be insulting and condescending. What a typical asshole Republican you are, Geezer.
Quote:Oh, and you think it's perfectly fine to sell weapons to mass murderers, then?
Monday, September 14, 2009 10:01 AM
Monday, September 14, 2009 10:17 AM
Quote:Why? wanna buy some?
Quote:Isn't that fun to swallow with your hopes and dreams for a peaceful and calmly evolving future?
Quote:we only sell said weapons to our friendly, peace-seeking allies so they may protect themselves from various evildoers and swarthy terrorists whom we also detest and wish death and hate upon, or you could tell yourself that most of said weaponry is really for defense and for shielding babies and puppies and virgins from the darker nature of man.
Quote:...will gladly sell a sharpening stone to an axe murderer if it serves our purposes and makes Lockheed Martin a tidy profit.
Quote:if everyone owns a few thousand warheads, no one will shoot anyone simply because they don't want to get shot themselves
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