Some choose to call me a racist. by Wulfenstar

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Are you being snarky? Looking to me to be foolish that I feel this way?

Is it wrong that I agree with what was now written?

I hope not. :(

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:16 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Are you being snarky? Looking to me to be foolish that I feel this way?

Is it wrong that I agree with what was now written?

I hope not. :(

Not to worry...

No snark intended , and none should be taken...

Relax .

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/17/playing-the-racism-car
d/

'...considering that Obama and his commissars are labeling Americans who just happen to oppose Cap & Trade, billions for clunkers and to the havoc the leftists are trying to wreak on our health care system, as brainless sheep. Large groups of citizens rise up to voice their grievances and he calls them mobs, claims that grass roots are really made of Astroturf and tells his minions to ape the Soviets and rat out their friends and neighbors. Some people I know refer to what Obama is doing as social engineering. I think it’s something even worse: socialist engineering.

I wonder if anyone else has noticed that whenever a black conservative voices an opinion, the liberal claque insists that he’s not an authentic black, and when a white conservative voices an opinion, Obama’s sycophants insist he’s not an authentic American.

When Obama was running for the presidency, a few of us Paul Revere wannabes were warning you: “The reds are coming! The reds are coming!”

Naturally, Obama, a born and bred race hustler who learned his lessons well from Jeremiah Wright, wanted you to believe that the only reason people could possibly have for opposing him was his race. But it was never about the color of his skin. It was always about the color of his politics.'

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bprelutsky/2009/08/20/clunkers-clunk
ers-everywhere/

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:19 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:39 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

NO!

I will not sacrifice America.

We've made too many compromises already.

Too many retreats.

They invade our space, and we fall back.

They assimilate entire towns/counties,
and we fall back.

Not again.

The line must be drawn here.

This far.

No FURTHER.

(For me.)

And *I* will make them pay for what they've done.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:41 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"They invade our space, and we fall back."

Who is this 'they' you speak of ?

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Silence is consent.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:49 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

*ignoring Rue.

"And he piled upon the whales white hump, the sum of all the rage and hate felt by his whole race. If his chest had been a cannon, he would have shot his heart upon it."

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:17 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"They invade our space, and we fall back."
*ignoring Rue.

"Who is this 'they' you speak of ?"

I understand if you can't answer a simple question like that.

I suppose the 'they' you are speaking of is a group you hate, though you say you don't believe in dividing people by groups; who happen to be Americans you don't identify with b/c you disagree with them, though you claim to identify with ALL Americans; on whom you will force your own brand of 'freedom' which you claim to love, though you hate it when people make an actual free choice on their own.

You are one effed-up mess, dude.

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Silence is consent.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:23 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

We allow those in power to push us back. To force us to give our money and our time to causes we cannot in good conscience support.

But no more.

We MUST draw our line here. This far and no further.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:27 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

And if the majority of people WANT those ones in power to be there ?

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Silence is consent.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:31 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

You just won't leave me alone, will you Rue? You'd like me to "Hulk out" and smack you back...

But you have every right to post your opinion. Foolish and manipulative as it may be.

Have at it.

ETA: Tho, you and your ilk would love to force others to YOUR way of thinking... there are 4 lights.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:37 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Rue:
"And if the majority of people WANT those ones in power to be there ?"
Wulf:
You just won't leave me alone, will you Rue? You'd like me to "Hulk out" and smack you back..."

Let's see --- have I gotten together with my buds and cornered you in a hall ? Pulled out a weapon ? Physically threatened you in any way ?

Well ????? Have I ?

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:38 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

And by whether or not Wulfie thinks "they" can give gifts!

But he's really not a racist. Really.

Mike

Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness
For me
Starless and Bible black

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:38 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

No, but your fupa (fat upper pussy area) IS quite threatening.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:40 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Now see, you've just made yourself look like an even bigger ass, as if that was possible. Racist AND sexist, on top of being unable to control your aggression when there is not even a hint a physical threat ... it just gets better and better, doesn't it ? *

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* And by better and better, I mean worse and worse.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:42 PM

And Wulfie, what are YOU trying to do, other than FORCE US TO YOUR OPINION?

Seriously.

You want us all to believe that you're not a racist, when you quite clearly ARE a racist. You believe broad statements about black people, based on nothing but empty stereotypes and idiotic wives' tales: Black people can't give gifts, black people have "lower blood" than whites (YOUR words, which YOU claimed were TRUE).

You want to FORCE your version of "freedom" on us - that freedom to hate, freedom to incite violence, freedom to shoot those you disagree with...

And you have that right. Sure you do. Just as I have the right to mock you incessantly as an idiot for your wrong-headed beliefs.

Mike

Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness
For me
Starless and Bible black

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:43 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Whatever Rue, go pet your cat...

Leave the real discussions to free-minded people.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:45 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"black people have "lower blood" than whites (YOUR words, which YOU claimed were TRUE)."

You know... I didnt want to believe that there were people here who would pervert what others said... naive me.. but in the thread you are quoting... I already said 10 times already that it was what was accepted, not what I believe.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:51 PM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

....... and I would add, neither of you have the balls to admit when you change your previous posts.

Is that your thing? Post something, and then when someone responds negating it, to go back and edit your post?

Really?

Isnt the new age of electronic mockery grand?

Funny how I refuse to do that.

Then again, I may have more honor than either of you. Tho, I admit, neither of you know what that word means.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:15 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"Leave the real discussions to free-minded people."

Hard to do any discussion when you can't answer a simple, impersonal, topical question - what if most people WANT to have the people in power who are there ?

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Still waiting.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:15 PM

HKCAVALIER

Gee, I wish these threads didn't go on and on like this, spawning meta-threads that promise to go nowhere (ack, I'm turning into dreamtrove!!!)

And no, just because I desire a thing to stop does not in any way imply that I would enact laws to force the issue. Still get to wish folk would wise or grow up a little.

Hey, is there any room in this polarized echo-chamber for a person to be racially insensitive without being full-on oh-my-god-hide-the-kids racist?

Wulf is being quite openly racially insensitive, I guess 'cause he thinks he's making a point which even his wife, it would seem, doesn't quite understand. He seems to like being misunderstood. And y'all seem more than happy to oblige.

Maybe he's just got a racist id, like the rest of us, and he lets his run 'round this forum to get it out of his system and to validate his self-hatred by how many people wish him dead because of it. Maybe y'all think you can erase your own racist ids by condemning Wulf's loudly and often for all to see.

And what if he really, really IS racist? Then what, Mike? What are ya gonna do? You can't do anything except ignore him and move on.

So...why don'tcha skip a step and just, y'know, move on? It might lower your blood pressure.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:19 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Me, I'm still trying to figure out how we can be free with Wulf deciding for us what we should have and how we should be.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:28 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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In their incredible arrogance, they vilify me for loving my country and not viewing myself as a victim of white America. In the sick minds of liberals, as a black man in America, I must support President Obama regardless of his policies. I must resent white America.

I really hate it when right-wingers, in their incredible arrogance, put words in my mouth... and get it WRONG!

WHAT A LYING, TWO-FACED SON OF A JACKAL!!!

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:50 PM

BYTEMITE

I'm with HK. Seriously, for the past week or so all the RWED threads have devolved into Wulf bashing.

Yes, he's wince-worthy and politically incorrect sometimes, and the recent race-labeling thread was an example. And his political stances are a little vague and sometimes extreme.

But almost every post Wulf makes, someone's quoting him and dissecting every paragraph, and a lot of what he's saying is being taken out of context.

Is Wulf racist? That's not for me to judge. The gaffes he does make seem to be unintentional, "knee jerk" as I've heard them described. In the meantime, I'm willing to have a civil discussion of issues with him, and willing to talk over these same issues as they come up, explain why I disagree with him.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:59 PM

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I'm with HK. Seriously, for the past week or so all the RWED threads have devolved into Wulf bashing.

Well, he certainly doesn't help his case by posting the same shitty movie clips in every thread he can find, AND by starting new threads to expand on those viewpoints.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"black people have "lower blood" than whites (YOUR words, which YOU claimed were TRUE)."

You know... I didnt want to believe that there were people here who would pervert what others said... naive me.. but in the thread you are quoting... I already said 10 times already that it was what was accepted, not what I believe.

"Accepted" by WHOM? If not YOU, then WHO accepts this as "true"? Who believes it, if not you? Who taught it to you? Where did you get the notion that it was in any way the "true" answer?

By the way, you're dreaming if you don't think there are people here who would pervert what others say. Beware your new buddy Out2theBlack: he's repeatedly accused me of trying to have him banned from this site, which is more than a perversion of my words - it's a flat-out LIE, something that never happened and that he can't find any evidence of, and he knows it.

Mike

Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness
For me
Starless and Bible black

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:08 PM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
And if the majority of people WANT those ones in power to be there ?

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Silence is consent.

He didn't answer that question when I asked it in his "no snark" thread.

I will say, this is one of his more disturbing - and disturbed - threads.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:07 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Wulf, out of everything that you've written, the only thing I can figure is that you're an angry man looking for an excuse for violence. I can't figure out who "they" are. I'm not sure that YOU have clear idea who "they" are. It seems to apply to everyone from blacks to socialists to hippies to the 99.9999% of "sheeple" who you somehow think are evil...?

I choose not to call you a racist. I believe your problems are deeper than that. Get help, please, before you hurt someone that you truly love.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:22 PM

BYTEMITE

Well... Okay, point, Wulf starting threads to expound upon these problems isn't helping either.

Still, at some point this conflict needs to calm down a little bit or else it'll begin to take over every thread.

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:04 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Still, at some point this conflict needs to calm down a little bit or else it'll begin to take over every thread.

Begin?????

But yanno what???

This ceaseless harrying of Wulf isn't doing any good. It won't change his mind or give him insight. If anything, all it does is reinforce his view of himself and others. (Just repeating what HK said.) And BTW, my previous post was in all seriousness.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:50 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I'd like to add my voice to those calling for a cessation of Wulf-baiting and Wulf-bashing. If anyone cares to look back, what I'm seeing in the time I've been here is that what Wulf posts is NOTHING like as vicious as what comes back to him. And things are turned around; his satement about "lower blood" or whatever IS what so many people believe; it IS what racists believe; it IS what many subsciously believe. It's not about HIM, it's about society.

On the other hand,

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In the sick minds of liberals, as a black man in America, I must support President Obama regardless of his policies. I must resent white America. I must feel entitled to the earnings of other Americans. My belief that my success or failure is totally in the hands of myself and my God is anathema to them.

infuriates ME, too. What a bunch of crap. What's not taken into consideration is that all this comes from tea-party affairs. The people there are expecting those who agree with them to be the speakers; hence they are predisposed to like anyone who does so. The people who are there to oppose the tea-party protesters and their agenda are predisposed to DISlike anyone who speaks to that agenda. They also represent the worst of the left, just as to ME what I see by way of protests, things said by the protesters themselves and the signs they display, represents the worst of the right.

To judge an entire group of people by the small minorities that show up at these affairs is ridiculous--there are many people, in fact the majority of Americans, who still support Obama, and there are those who would never support him because he's Black, he represents change, or because of thir own inate fears. As Obama pointed out, he was Black BEFORE the election, yet still won a distinct mandate of the people. That means the overt racists are in the minority, and were joined by people who rejected him for other reasons. It doesn't mean that all who voted for him are "sick-minded liberals", or democrats, or socialists, or any OTHER single thing.

Every goddamned thing that quote says is NOT what the majority of "liberals" or "democrats" believe, not by a long shot. It's disgusting to hear people rant about stuff that way, be it about liberals, conservatives, right, left, Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, Whites, or any other group. It's also ridiculous to judge an entire group of people by what one meets up with at an affair where one side is predisposed one way and the other side the other way--AND where the "other side" represents people feeling strongly enough to SHOW UP. Pure bullshit.

In California, I've never met a single solitary person who believes the things you ascribe to liberals, and at least here in No. Cal., we are overwhelmingly democrats and liberals. What you said is exactly the same kind of narrow-minded propaganda one can hear any day on Faux Noise, nothing more.

Yeah, I'm pretty steamed and this post represents it. But it's over-the-top stuff like that about either party that gets to me; otherwise, I, too, would really like to see things calm down.

For one thing, if you have it in for someone like Wulf, you READ what he posts with pre-judgments and miss what he actually writes. His answer to the racial question was 100% how it IS, in my opinion, yet it got jumped on as HIS expressing racism, when in actuality he never said he believed that way himself. I think it's wrong, and I think those of us who have pre-conceptions and feel righteous about being vicious toward others should be ashamed of ourselves.

Not only that, but it precludes decent discussion/debate and just turns the thread into something I end up regretting wasting the time reading. Surely we can do better. Whatever anyone writes should be taken at face value, as what they intend to say, not who they were in the past, not as representing what our own prejudices against them are. The antipathy toward Wulf here is directly comparable to what I received elsewhere; I abhor it, I reject it and I will not engage in it. I'll disagree when I disagree, call stupid what I see as stupid, but READ what someone writes before I go off half cocked.

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Get help, please, before you hurt someone

I was told the same thing when I voiced my views elsewhere. I was called crazy--in fact in the end all my detractors were attributing anything I dared to say to my mental illness. By now I hope I've shown that I'm a RELATIVELY reasonable person and not crazy. Someone voicing their opinions on the internet doesn't mean they are voilent IRL--in fact, for some it's an outlet for feelings that might otherwise BE violent. To judge someone as needing psychiatric help (because that's what your statement intimated) is 100% wrong; I could say it of Frem, whose opinions turn toward violence and who according to him (her?) HAS been violent. It really gets my goat to have people say that, even tho' I admit I've said it myself, equally wrongly.

Visceral comments and attacks accomplish NOTHING good, and only represent the problems of the people who make them.

There that's my sermon for the day--would be nice if those of us calling for civil debate could be heard, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:18 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Actually I don't mind the bashing, and Im NOT doing it out of some sort of "pay attention to me!!" complex/thing. (Ok, the bashing does get a little bit extreme, and Im not going to lie and say it doesn't get to me a bit somedays)

But.

I want you all to THINK. TO SEE that there is a lot out there that NEEDS to be talked about. Stuff that PC has deemed untouchable, or that courtesy would hide/ignore.

I might be going about things the wrong way. But I get the feeling some-days that Im in a Victorian-era home, with Victorian-era people, who refuse to talk about the 30000lb elephant destroying the furniture.

Im running around asking, "Shouldn't we do something"? Until I get so fed up I start throwing glasses of champagne at peoples heads to listen.

So yeah, a lot of what I say is "wince-worthy", not "PC", and sometimes downright off the way scary... but dammit!

We HAVE to talk about this stuff. It HAS to be out in the open for anything to change for the better.

P.S. I actually have an ulterior motive for arguing as hard as I do here. It helps me to learn how to argue out "there", in the real world.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:31 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Wulf, I know what you mean.

But.

You have not been able to narrow down who or what this elephant is.

Is it racism? (Both ways?)

Socialism?

The ultra-wealthy?

"Sheeple"?

The gubmint?

Corporations?

All of the above?

None of the above?

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FWIW, I agree with you in one sense: I think we are hurtling off a cliff, as fast as our legs can carry us. At some point in the future, I will no longer be able to take care of myself or my mentally disabled daughter. If things go very wrong... as I think they will... I may choose the ultimate opt-out for both of us. So the future I envision is extremely bleak... possibly even worse than what YOU imagine.

So, instead of telling us what your idea of "freedom" is... I feel like we didn't get very far with that ... tell us what your ultimate nightmare is.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:36 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

All of the above.

Including that which allows these things to get out of hand.

Apathy, and self-involvement.

There are more things tho, as well.

Right now, I dont have the time to write them all out.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:43 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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All of the above.
Including that which allows these things to get out of hand.
Apathy, and self-involvement.
There are more things tho, as well.
Right now, I dont have the time to write them all out.

I think that's why people find it difficult to respond to you. It sounds like it could be anything ... an emotional reaction with no way to predict what sets it off, or why, or what you're truly reacting to.

So, I have to wonder... what is the basis of this discomfort? Is there anything that they all have in common? A connecting theme, or requirement, or tone?

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Interestingly, Wulf

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P.S. I actually have an ulterior motive for arguing as hard as I do here. It helps me to learn how to argue out "there", in the real world.

That helped me, too, enormously. I used to fly off the handle and respond viscerally at whatever I thought was being attacked, especially myself, on the boards I've been on for over ten years. Over time I learned from those exchanges and, tho' I'm still far from "there", I've learned a different way to "speak" which makes debate and discussion much more possible. I'm ever grateful to those who helped me change how I communicate. I commend your efforts in that respect, tho' I disagree with you on many things.

On the other hand, I don't think there's much of ANYTHING which isn't discussed here, from what I've seen. I don't think you need to point out the 3000 lb. elephants HERE...maybe in the real world, but from what I see here, people are thoughtful and make an effort to present their case and listen to others; and concede points where they see them as valid.

Yeah, the vitriol has been pretty bad lately, and it saddens me. It was better when I first arrived, there were less personal attacks, but maybe like all things it goes through phases.

I'd find what you post much more effective if you posted your WORDS, not the silly videos which I don't even watch because they don't relate to the real world. But that's just me.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:02 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
ETA: Think of the Enterprise as America, and the little towns within.

What about unincorporated muncipal townships, port authorities, and State Parks located within City limits? No...if anything America is like Deep Space Nine with its black Captain.

You can't tell me that Morn and Newt Gingrich are not identical.

In any event, Obama, like Sisko, will continue to be a wuss until he shaves his head, grows a goatee, and gets some of that old-time Bajoran religeon.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:15 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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In their incredible arrogance, they vilify me for loving my country and not viewing myself as a victim of white America. In the sick minds of liberals, as a black man in America, I must support President Obama regardless of his policies. I must resent white America.
I really hate it when right-wingers, in their incredible arrogance, put words in my mouth... and get it WRONG! WHAT A LYING, TWO-FACED SON OF A JACKAL!!!

Bad song as well.

Heads should roll

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:17 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Niki,

Eh, we ARE a visual species.

I'll try to keep the number of them down, tho.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:22 AM

HKCAVALIER

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Originally posted by Hero:
...until he shaves his head, grows a goatee...

You mean like this?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:38 AM

STORYMARK

"And if the majority of people WANT those ones in power to be there?"

Wulf, you ever going to have the courage to actually answer this one? In either thread??

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:05 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Actually, I think I already did answer that question.

Sorry if the answer didn't give you fodder to attack me.

If you are going to hound me on every thread, at least do your homework.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:26 AM

STORYMARK

Maybe I missed your reply in the other thread, but after 2 days, I got tired of waiting for an answer.

Hmmmm.... just went through the thread again.... no, you didn't answer it. So, coward and liar, then.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:22 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Not recalling an answer either.

So, Wulf, do us a favor. Please repeat your answer 'cause nobody seems to know what it is.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:34 PM

SIMONWHO

Irony: a racist using a clip featuring a British actor playing a Frenchman talking to a black woman from a franchise dedicated to unifying humanity.

Still, glad to hear you've found your defining line. Not the breaches of the Constitution. Not the faked reasoning for the invasion of Iraq. Not the billions poured in corporate military contractors. Oh no, they're all fine. But using public money to help people unable to afford medical treatment? That's your line.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:22 PM

HKCAVALIER

And don't forget the stunning irony that in the clip Piccard is shown to be wrong and just a little out of his gourd! lol

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:37 AM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
And don't forget the stunning irony that in the clip Piccard is shown to be wrong and just a little out of his gourd! lol

Oh, if you'll notice, MOST of the clips that Wulf puts up as inspiration end with the "hero" of the clip dead, their heroic stand turns out to be nothing, their followers are wiped out to the last man, etc.

As Josey Wales says, "Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy."

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Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:50 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Irony: a racist using a clip featuring a British actor playing a Frenchman talking to a black woman from a franchise dedicated to unifying humanity.

Still, glad to hear you've found your defining line. Not the breaches of the Constitution. Not the faked reasoning for the invasion of Iraq. Not the billions poured in corporate military contractors. Oh no, they're all fine. But using public money to help people unable to afford medical treatment? That's your line.

yeah, let's put 'evil' in perspective

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Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:59 AM