G20 professer's eardrum ruptured by LRAD sound cannon by Fremdfirma

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G20 professer's eardrum ruptured by LRAD sound cannon

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Friday, October 9, 2009 20:27
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Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:48 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Here's 3 police provocateurs at G20.

Wonder why they didn't sing the FTP song?

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Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:10 PM

FREMDFIRMA

LMFAO.

They're not even TRYIN, that's just sad - not only does the footwear give them away, they're trying to slip into a crowd of young, skinny college students, and not even PRETENDING to be anything other than obvious cops, in fact that's SO bad I would be lookin for OTHER provacateurs sneaking in while everyone else was laughing at/glaring at them.

Of course, efforts to slip into Gus's black bloc stopped after leading some of those tag alongs into a dark area out of view of cameras, where they apparently fell down and had an ... accident - kinda like protesters do when the cops catch them alone, right ?

Protesters are right though, if the cops are gonna dress up like protesters, well then, the protesters oughta dress up like cops, and then make a LEGAL issue out of it in both directions if the cops take issue with it.

Heaven knows, I got plenty of uniforms (I got em via bulk discount) if anyone had the guts to try.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:52 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:
Here's 3 police provocateurs at G20.

Wonder why they didn't sing the FTP song?

I don't see them provoking anything in this video - typical smart approach to knowing what "the enemy" is doing is to infiltrate, though I agree with Frem, their attempt is laughable. I was at a pig roast (hey! where they roast a whole hog) given by a police officer in which many police were present - to a man they had the "I lift" physique. Maybe if they weren't all 3 together...

But I'm as disappointed in the protesters. They had a great opportunity to humanize the situation and they resorted to chants, "Eff the Police!" It just reinforces the police attitudes toward the protesters, each side just playing their roles.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:49 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Well, it depends on how many, and their attitudes about it, mask or not you can see how uptight they are, maybe even a little scared, watch their body movements - it looks like some level of fear/aggression response, and that's hard to crack.

My primary inroad to pysch warfare against most infiltrators is humor, if I can make them laugh, I can crack in and start workin em.

We got some guys in Redford like that, just swept up around them and started singing the theme from COPS (badly) and they just couldn't help themselves, started cracking up - wound up having coffee and discussing stuff - we were doin a corner-stand protest with signs in efforts to support the unionisation of Starbucks by the IWW, and got to discussion unions with them too, since the police union hasn't been performing to their satisfaction as of late.

As you say, the human element, which I see as strength instead of weakness, and the way to turn enemies into allies.

-Frem
(It's a running joke with the wayne county PD that if they ever have to arrest me, first thing they're gonna do is gag me before I "do that voice of saruman thing" on them, cause they have a really overblown idea of how good I am at it.)

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:24 PM

DREAMTROVE

Okay, that was the worst infiltrate I've seen in a long time. I think the protestors didn't want to win the sympathy of the police, they wanted to provoke them into doing something that would make headlines, and also prove their belief that police were stupid and evil. The won on the stupid part.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:24 PM

DREAMTROVE

Double post

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:27 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

what the heck is the middle guy doing with his left hand ???

watch at say 1:45

hidden weapon or just happy to be there but steroids shrunk his junk ?

Guy who looks like that shouldn't go within 50ft of a school or playground

" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson

Lets party like its 1939

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Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:51 AM

BYTEMITE

Know what I think protesters ought to do about the microwaves?

Dress in a flame retardant suit, drenched in gasoline. Riot police turn on the microwaves, light some matches...

MWAHAHAHAHA, suckers.

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Friday, October 2, 2009 12:04 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Complete List Of G-20 Arrests, Charges

According to police, 190 people were arrested during G-20 related protests last week.

http://kdka.com/local/g20/g20.arrests.list.2.1213517.html

So why is Luke Rudowski's name censored from that list? He even pled guilty and paid a $100 fine. How many 100s of other names are censored from arrest blotter?

90 lb woman in sundress slammed to pavement for helping innocent students escape police riot
www.pittsburghpolicebrutality.com/?p=46

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Friday, October 2, 2009 1:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Know what I think protesters ought to do about the microwaves?

Dress in a flame retardant suit, drenched in gasoline. Riot police turn on the microwaves, light some matches...

MWAHAHAHAHA, suckers.

:shock: That's a freaking awesome idea - but only so long as you can keep the gas-drenched guy or gal well clear of the crowd, so they don't immolate others when they go up. And of course, if they're apart from the crowd, they're probably not going to be that juicy a target for the pain beam operators...

But if you could do it, and get it on video, there would be SUCH a backlash against the police and their "non-lethal" toys.

Mike

The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means;
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams

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Friday, October 2, 2009 6:07 AM

BYTEMITE

Exactly. Best way to stop this is media warfare and discredit the "non-lethal" bullcrap... It's torture, plain and simple.

And if it startles the cops enough, they might turn off the damn machines. Two very positive possible outcomes.

Multiple people in the crowd might try wearing the suits, be standing in the front looking intimidating, just slightly apart so the other people aren't affected by the fire.

Also:

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Friday, October 2, 2009 6:20 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Multiple people in the crowd might try wearing the suits, be standing in the front looking intimidating, just slightly apart so the other people aren't affected by the fire. Might also be a good idea to tell some of the other people in advance, to reduce panic.

Do be aware that the stuntfolks who do this for a living don't do burns for more than a few seconds, wear very special clothing and masks, use very specific flammables, and have plenty of others on hand to quickly put them out with CO2 extinguishers and fireproof blankets. Anyone trying to do this with less than professional training, equipment and safety support is likely to get hurt real bad.

If folks are gonna do this kind of spoofing, I'd suggest talking with the effects pros and maybe trying some of the less dangerous but just as graphic stuff. Imagine someone made up with burns on their upper torso. When the ADS goes on, scream, tear off the shirt, writhe on the ground a bit, and be carried off. No danger, but a good show.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, October 2, 2009 6:24 AM

BYTEMITE

The idea of using a stunt man also occurred to me, though it can't be anyone who could be immediately recognized. Don't want to be discredited as a hoax.

Perhaps less then a full body burn would also work best, with the flammable chemicals mostly on the torso, which would be the biggest target for the ADS anyway. And that would be the easiest to put out. I like the idea of someone with a fireproof blanket nearby, that's more readily believable than someone with a fire extinguisher, as regular fires can be put out by smothering as well.

The burn make-up idea is a good one, less showy, but it might also work. Perhaps a combination of the two in different places.

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Friday, October 2, 2009 6:43 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

You do not wish to discredit yourselves with theatrical stunts. The truth is plain enough. You start putting on theatrical plays, and people will think you're just fucking around.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 2, 2009 6:48 AM

BYTEMITE

Eh, even if discredited, it still might startle some of these cops, which could work to the advantage of the protesters for getting away or getting the cops to cease violence.

It's just an idea. I don't think any of us here like the idea of this ADS stuff? It's very police state feeling.

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Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:25 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Dept Homeland Security Doles Out Fed Cash to Deploy Military LRADs in U.S. Cities
www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-doles-out-fed-cash-to-deploy-military-lrads-i
n-u-s-cities.html

This is what REAL anarchists do at G20:

Oops who let a non-police provocateur join the anarchists?

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Monday, October 5, 2009 9:57 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

G20 anarchist arrested for Twitter
http://blog.su-spectator.com/2009/10/man-arrested-for-using-twitter-to
-aide-protesters-at-g-20-summit/

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Monday, October 5, 2009 10:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Fuckin' a.

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Monday, October 5, 2009 9:42 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Again, operational and signal security, along with properly vetting your personnel in the first place.

Like it or not, it IS a de-facto police state we're dealing with here, even if no one wants to admit it.

Playing by the enemies rules is the surest road to defeat there is.

-F

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:27 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Carnegie Mellon University visiting professor Karen Piper told Channel 4 Action News that she was doing research about globalization and was not there to protest.

Piper said the loud noise ruptured her eardrum and caused major damage.

"The problem is the long-term hearing loss and there's nothing they can do about that," said Piper, who plans to speak to an attorney.

But police said that the LRAD is not a so-called "sound cannon" and does not have the technical ability to be used as one.

While the LRAD emits a harsh sound, it's set at a relatively safe level, officials said Thursday during a news conference in the parking lot of Pittsburgh Police Bureau headquarters.

www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/21243482/detail.html

I guarantee the cops will lose their hearing by LRAD.

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