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Individual Rights vs. Collective Rights
Saturday, October 3, 2009 3:29 PM
DMAANLILEILTT
Saturday, October 3, 2009 3:37 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt: i find what piratenews said to be really far from the truth. the commonwealth of nations is a group that aims to promote democracy, human rights, individual liberty and not the sort of things you would associate with nazism or any types of fascism
Saturday, October 3, 2009 4:34 PM
DREAMTROVE
Saturday, October 3, 2009 6:39 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Saturday, October 3, 2009 8:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Quote:Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt: i find what piratenews said to be really far from the truth. the commonwealth of nations is a group that aims to promote democracy, human rights, individual liberty and not the sort of things you would associate with nazism or any types of fascism Yeah, that 19-year Iraq War thing is going so well. Afghan War too, with heroin production up 10,000%. Unprovoked British RAF raid on Libya in 1986 cost US taxpayers $300-million in warcrime reparations to Libya in 2008. South Africa went well, with slavery, er, apartheid by Cecil Rhoads Diamond Scholar. Rhodesia too (aka Zimbabwe's 10-quadrillion % inflation in 2009). India had slavery and genocide by the British Empire before, during and after Ghandi. Another big opium producer for the British Opium Wars on China. Pakistan is doing so well these days, with Brit SAS and US robots massacreing civilians daily. Brit queen termination of Canadian Parliament is good for democracy. Show them uppity slaves who's BO$$ Hog. How many of his wives' heads did British King Henry the 8th chop off? Never mind that pesky Constitutionally guaranteed right to travel, without which we all DIE, that existed worldwide for 1,000s of years (billions of years), until the British Communist Manifesto was adopted by USA in the 1930s. http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2009/03/constitutional-right-to-travel-without.html "Government control of communications and transportation." -Communist Manifesto, 6th Plank, written by Masonic jew Karl Marx in London England
Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:11 AM
Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:47 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Sunday, October 4, 2009 5:17 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Quote:Originally posted by UnabashedVixen: If someone runs around painting swastikas on Jewish businesses, apart from that being graffiti, is it a crime? Should it be a crime?
Sunday, October 4, 2009 2:48 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:24 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Rights, right, rights. Blah blah blah. IMHO you may as well be talking about purple dragons, or angels dancing on the head of a pin. Just because you can form the words with your mouth doesn't make it a meaningful statement. Rights are what we choose them to be. The British have more enumerated rights than we do (13), the Germans a LOT more (29), the Swedes fewer (9, I think). Why don't we have the right to food? To a productive job at reasonable pay? To clean water? To a direct vote? You keep talking about rights as if they were real. I assure you, they are not. They are protections afforded to you by the collective. Significantly, the rights that we have do not infringe on corporate "rights" one whit. "By their deeds you shall know them." If a particular "right" does not create the society you envision, that "right" should be amended. Treating rights as if they are "real" and inviolable is just... well, stupid. Why don't we start out by thinking about the society that we want to create, and THEN devise a set of rights around that?
Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:28 PM
Quote: The first thing you need to do to mark a person or a people for extermination is to brand them as the 'other'. Way back when in another thread (which I will not go digging for) was a mutli-viewpoint study of what happened in Rwanda - from 'how does this kind of thing happen' to 'how did YOU, Mr Anon, come to hack your neighbors whom you knew all your life, to death' ? There is a process of identification, separation, and dehumanization at the start of genocide. I would argue that 'hate crimes' are part of the process.
Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Again, we see how Americans are different from every other people on the planet. (I mean that in a GOOD way, assclowns)
Sunday, October 4, 2009 8:13 PM
Sunday, October 4, 2009 8:46 PM
Sunday, October 4, 2009 9:15 PM
Quote:I think we've been struck by some pretty similar viruses - must be all the air travel, but we've had our own versions of DMB04 = which is known here as FBon virus (follow blindly on) and we definitely have caught the FAT450, and I blame the opening of Krispy Kreme here for that one.
Quote:I have briefly checked it out - but I am planning my big road trip with the family which I hope will be just as funny as the Vacation movie without all the dead bodies and dogs - you see, I really can't think of the USA without thinking of a movie.
Sunday, October 4, 2009 9:33 PM
Sunday, October 4, 2009 9:34 PM
Monday, October 5, 2009 10:19 AM
Quote:"Strictly speaking, a driver can register a BAC of 0.00% and still be convicted of a DUI. The level of BAC does not clear a driver when it is below the 'presumed level of intoxication.'" —Tennessee Driver Handbook and Driver License Study Guide http://www.state.tn.us/safety/dlmain.htm "One of the major defects in many methods of blood-alcohol analysis is the failure to identify ethanol to the exclusion of all other chemical compounds. Thus a client with other compounds in his blood or breath may have a high 'blood-alcohol' reading with little or no ethanol in his body. If you look at the warranties - it is sort of interesting - none of the breath machine manufacturers warrant these things to actually test blood alcohol." —Lawrence Taylor, attorney at law, DUICENTER.COM, Drunk Driving Defense, 5th Edition (2000) "Nancy Benoit also had a blood alcohol reading of .184, although Sperry said the blood alcohol and drug levels could be affected by the decomposition of her body. 'These (blood alcohol) results are not reliable for interpretation because the amount of alcohol in her system could have all come from the decomposition.'" —Cindy Morley, Fayette Daily News, GBI: Chris Benoit's son was full of Xanax, July 18, 2007 "The only reliable test for blood alcohol from a corpse is by drawing the blood directly from the interior chambers of the heart. Otherwise the blood can be contaminated with stomach and intestinal contents from ingested alcohol. This is especially true for crash victims." —Dr Randall Pedigo MD, Knox County coroner, KPD firearms instructor and expert medical witness, shot 6 times by TBI during raid on his home searching for firearm used by towtrucking carthieves to kill a cop in Knoxville (actual shooter was "suicided" by police state death squad via "lead poisoning" and hanging), convicted of homosexual rape by injection of "vitamin" sedatives, conversation with Pirate News and The Prohibition Times "Let me start with law enforcement contacts with respect to traffic stops, for suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. The Fifth amendment of the Bill of Rights states that we are not to be forced to incrimnate ourselves. The actual wording is, you cannot be compelled to be a witness against yourself. If you are stopped for suspicion of DUI, these are your rights regardless of the laws of your state. First of all, you are to deny having consumed any alcoholic beverages whatsoever. You are never to admit to having one or two drinks. If you admit to consuming even one drop of alcohol, you open the door to 'probable cause', allowing the police officer to search your car for open containers. Next, you are never to submit to a Field Sobriety Test. You are to refuse to do so. They cannot make you walk the line, they cannot make you balance or anything else. Now when you are arrested, you are to refuse to allow a blood-alcohol test, regardless of what state law 'requires', such as revocation of driving priveleges for a period of time. That's an attempt to compel you to be a witness against yourself. Supreme Court decisions in this area are very specific with regards to your rights as folows: Lefkowitz vs Turley, and the Fifth Amendment, provides that no person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, and permits him to refuse to any any other qustions put to him in any other proceeding, civil or criminal, formal or informal, where the answers might incriminate him in future criminal proceedings." —George Gordon Law Hour, GeorgeGordon.com, "The Policeman is not your friend - He is your adversary," October 30, 2007 "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded. America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -President Abraham Lincoln (Rothschild), unlicensed attorney at law "There's a report out tonight that 24-years ago I was apprehended in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a DUI. That's an accurate story. I'm not proud of that. I oftentimes said that years ago I made some mistakes. I occasionally drank too much and I did on that night. I was pulled over. I admitted to the policeman that I had been drinking. I paid a fine. And I regret that it happened. But it did. I've learned my lesson." —President George W. Bush, CNN Larry King Live, November 2, 2000 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html "Cheney’s first DWI conviction came in November 1962 when he was 21. According to the docket from Cheyenne’s Municipal Court, Cheney was arrested for drunkenness and 'operating motor vehicle while intoxicated.' A Cheyenne Police Judge found Cheney guilty of the two charges and hit him with a 30-day suspension of his driver’s license. Cheney also had to forfeit a $150 bond posted at the time of his arrest. Further information about the case - such as the defendant’s blood alcohol content or whether Cheney was jailed following the arrest - is unavailable since other court records from that period have been destroyed, according to Wyoming officials. Details of Cheney’s second Wyoming arrest in July 1963, have also fallen victim to time and records destruction practices at the local Municipal Court. But a police arrest card maintained by the Rock Springs Police Department shows that Cheney was fined $100 for his second DWI conviction. The card lists the charge against Cheney, who was then working as a groundman laying power lines, as '11-44,' the criminal code classification for drunken driving, according to Police Chief Neil Kourbelas. At the time of the Rock Springs arrest, Kourbelas said that local cops and judges would not have known that young Cheney was a repeat offender. The police department, Kourbelas said, 'wouldn’t have had the ability to automatically check with other jurisdictions to find out if anyone had prior arrests or convictions. We could have arrested Jack the Ripper back then and had no idea what he had done.'” -Allen Trapp, GaDUIblog.com, Top 50 DUI Arrests of All-Time, February 16, 2007 http://gaduiblog.com/category/dui-arrests-that-made-the-news/top-50-dui-arrests-of-all-time/ http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html THE PROHIBITION TIMES America's Secret History of the Current Prohibition of Alcohol A Responsible Driver's Survival Guide http://www.piratenews.org/theprohibitiontimes.html
Monday, October 5, 2009 12:32 PM
Quote: I believe the winning campaign slogan was "Bush. Because Kerry looks Lurch."
Monday, October 5, 2009 3:12 PM
Monday, October 5, 2009 3:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Ack! He's sparkling twilight talent: His word can simply suck your will to live. Or at least to stay conscious
Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:20 PM
Tuesday, October 6, 2009 6:23 PM
Tuesday, October 6, 2009 8:40 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Bend over for your butt bomb inspection: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=40286 Howdya like them takin liberties with your civil liberties?
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 10:29 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 11:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Yep, and many US citizens decided not to fly commercial also because of the bullshit shakedown - which amounts, mind you, to little more than security theatre, which I find offensive in more ways than I can name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater And when the airline companies started feeling the squeeze, instead of modifying their behavior and putting pressure on DHS/TSA and their abusive thieving goons, they go running to big daddy government and whine for a handout. Reducing the all but in name boycott to worthless, since the taxpayers wind up forced to pay for a service they did not use BECAUSE they wanted them to change their behavior. As one can imagine I am damned irate about it. So more power to you, the Gov here can't squeeze YOU for your refusal, and I would suggest you not only continue that refusal, but send a stiff letter to the appropriate folks over here telling them why - and CC it to various american activist fronts to make SURE notice gets taken. -Frem It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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